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Originally posted by borracho
Personally, I don't buy that she pointed her weapon at an officer. They say that in almost every case where someone was shot by the police. Sometimes they say that even though the victim had no weapon. The only witnesses were other officers, they will not rat out a fellow officer. Even if she did point her weapon at them, had they clearly identified themselves as officers? Of course they will say they did, but more and more the integrity of law enforcement is being called in to question by those that employ them, the general public. We have reached a state in this country where the people no longer have faith in their government or public officials and it is due to the behavior of those very same officials. The police would do well to remember that they have authority that is granted to them my the people that they serve. Their role used to be to serve and protect, yet they have no obligation to protect anyone. The system is broken.
Originally posted by becomingaware
I am never one to defend police, review my posts and you'll see that.
That said the lady made a terrible mistake. First by shooting through a door without identifying the target first. You just don't fire a weapon blindly like that its a huge no no.
Second, calling the police after firing and instaed of waiting for them to repond to her home she walks out and wanders over to her sisters house. She should have found a safe place in her home and waited for the police to arrive. If she was frightened she should have stayed in her home. She knew the police were on their way.
Third, pointing the gun (if that really happened) at the police.
A tragic incident for sure, but the police cant be held totally at fault here, she made a few horrible mistakes as well.
Again, I'm never one to defend police but in this instance they are not totally at fault here.
She may have shot through the back door, but they have no clue for sure who did.
Cops suck.
Pardon my french, but what kind of stupdig redneck, leaves an 83 year old woman with a handgun?
Originally posted by Terminal1
She did fire a shot out the back door before police arrived.
Her family is enraged being she was a church going woman...
Originally posted by CaptChaos
All we have is the pigs' claim that she pointed the gun at them. Oh, and of course, his "brother" pigs as eyewitnesses. Yes. She was attacking them. THey had to "defend themselves". THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
Sound familiar?
What I wonder is, doesn't Granny have some, oh, I don't know, SONS? Or GRANDSONS? Who are mighty pissed off now? Why don't they DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
But they won't . They think "the system" will do something about it. But it won't. And they are apparently too spineless and afraid to do anything about it. So, the pigs will get some paid vacation, and a promotion, and the sons and grandsons can pay for Granny's funeral. For some reason they will just accept this, as everyone has in the THOUSANDS of recent incidents like this.
Let's say Granny had had an AK or an M16, and mowed down a bunch of pigs in her back yard. Would her explanation of "I thought they were threatening me," stand up in court? Her eyewitness account of how they didn't identify themselves as police officers, and were lurking around, dressed in black, in her back yard in the dark, and carrying guns, caused her to "fear for her life"and have to "defend herself"by unloading a few hundred rounds in their direction, would merely get her life in prison instead of execution. Instead, once again, the pigs get paid vacation.
Shoot, shovel, shut up. That's it.
Originally posted by MewMeowMeow
I'm from the area. I was just googling the news to see what people were saying.
She left her hearing aids and glasses on her night stand. So she couldn't see well or hear well when trying to go to her sister's house.
Her purse is also missing, which I means there WAS an intruder in the house... so she had every right to have a gun and fire it. She fired at the ceiling to try and scare him/her away.
Her sister who was HOLDING THE DOOR OPEN for her, as she was coming across the yard , saw the whole thing.. said the police did not say anything and just shot her in the back..
Also, how in the world could they shoot her in the back if she was pointing a gun them?
Originally posted by Terminal1
Originally posted by MewMeowMeow
I'm from the area. I was just googling the news to see what people were saying.
She left her hearing aids and glasses on her night stand. So she couldn't see well or hear well when trying to go to her sister's house.
Her purse is also missing, which I means there WAS an intruder in the house... so she had every right to have a gun and fire it. She fired at the ceiling to try and scare him/her away.
Her sister who was HOLDING THE DOOR OPEN for her, as she was coming across the yard , saw the whole thing.. said the police did not say anything and just shot her in the back..
Also, how in the world could they shoot her in the back if she was pointing a gun them?
Thank you for posting. I took your post with a grain of salt first off because you are new and your post here was the very first one. You did make me go to the local TV station website I frequent (WDBJ7) and look and the son does dispute what the police are reporting.
Except one thing... the shooting in the back. Can you please point to a link or something that says this? When I read the comments the feel I get is the defense of the cops.
Originally posted by Doodle19815
A spokeswoman from the Virginia State Police says Altavista Police Officers made several attempts to determine if anyone was inside Delma Towler's home and then heard shots fired from inside. Officers took cover and watched her leave the house with a gun in her hand. They followed her as she walked up to another home. They approached Towler, and commanded her repeatedly to put down her gun. Officers say she refused and pointed her weapon at them. She was then shot and died at the scene.
Update from the same source.
So they follow a scared elderly woman and shoot her. SHE IS FRIGHTENED! Back off and talk calmly to her. Jeesh.
Originally posted by VikingWarlord
reply to post by thiefriverfalls
True, and I believe they should, at least, have had non lethal means of subduing a suspect in mind first. Instead they used "shoot first, ask questions later."
Originally posted by Terminal1
I find it very hard to believe that this woman, even if armed was a threat that required the use of lethal force.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Do they just shoot and kill robbers now? Don't they have to be in immediate danger in order to shoot them?
She may have shot through the back door, but they have no clue for sure who did.
Cops suck.