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reply to post by NOTurTypical
You said if proof mattered people would be Atheists.
Originally posted by raiders247
An atheists morality comes from one simple principle, and that is do to others as you would want done to you.
What gave you that impression? If one had to make sure a pointless blanket statement, it would be that we're all born agnostic, in that we have no notion of whether God exists or not.
No one is born with a belief in a supernatural being, it is taught to them and most likely forced upon them. By your reasoning I could say we were born agnostics when it comes to fairies and leprechauns, but how much sense does that make?
Physics, actually.
I LOVE physics and science, but no where have I found a shred of evidence that supports a God's existence, and neither has physics or science. Just because something is amazing beyond comprehension doesn't automatically prove God.
The FACTS are: There is no proof of God
You recognize, I hope, that this is an irrational statement -- you are drawing an absolute conclusion on the basis of non-absolute observations.
I have no belief in the non-existence of God."
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Take notice above he claimed the inversion principle "has no place in the rational mind".
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by NOTurTypical
You're missing the main point.
Theist made the claim that a god exists. So the burden of proof is on the theists since they made the claim, it's kinda how life works, you make a claim, you have to prove it.
Originally posted by DeadSeraph
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
I can't believe I missed such a crucial detail in Proverbs (the passage you quoted in your OP). I have read proverbs MANY times (probably one of the books I have read most in the bible) and I never noticed the significance of the very last verse you quoted. It never ceases to amaze me how such things can be revealed continually through out a persons life. Truly the LIVING word.
I thought atheism was a simple "lack of belief in God"? You guys have organized principles now?
It makes complete sense, because atheism is a negative assertion, while agnosticism is neutral.
Who said anything about being "amazing beyond comprehension'
You recognize, I hope, that this is an irrational statement -- you are drawing an absolute conclusion on the basis of non-absolute observations.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by NOTurTypical
You're missing the main point.
Theist made the claim that a god exists. So the burden of proof is on the theists since they made the claim, it's kinda how life works, you make a claim, you have to prove it.
Why do they have to prove anything?
I couldn't care less what you believe or don't believe, so why do you think I need to prove something to you?
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I never said there is proof of NO GOD
I said there is NO PROOF that a god does exist.
You should learn the difference between those two statements
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by NOTurTypical
You are so confused to what Atheism is and isn't I don't know what to say....
Still believe in Santa?
Why not?
Answer your own question and you will know why I am an Atheist
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I never said there is proof of NO GOD
I said there is NO PROOF that a god does exist.
You should learn the difference between those two statements
Actually there's proof all around you. That air you're breathing that keeps you alive? There's proof. Do you see any other planets with life on them in the solar system? No and you won't, because everything else was made just so God could make Man, right here in the Goldielocks zone where conditions are just right for life.
Originally posted by raiders247
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by raiders247
reply to post by NOTurTypical
You're missing the main point.
Theist made the claim that a god exists. So the burden of proof is on the theists since they made the claim, it's kinda how life works, you make a claim, you have to prove it.
Why do they have to prove anything?
I couldn't care less what you believe or don't believe, so why do you think I need to prove something to you?
Because without proof you can believe in anything no matter how stupid it sounds or makes you look.
So guess what, I just took a ride on a UFO mothership with Charlie Sheen and Elvis Presley. Don't ask me to prove it, just take my word for it...
I don't care if you don't want to prove anything to me thats fine, but Theists need to prove their claim in order to be taken seriously by rational people.
Therefore, with the absence of proof, we Atheists choose not to believe in something that Theists cannot prove.