It is well past time for a Government coup. They have lost their fear of the people and need a remi

Here is a quote from Robert Steele's book ELECTION 2008: Lipstick on The Pig. It expresses perfectly what is still happening today.

The people who are cheated are the citizens who trusted the banks with their savings. It is better to have the criminal banks crash, because only that will provoke a serious reform. I hope we are getting closer to the time when citizens will rise up and get violent. It is very healthy for governments and politicians (and bankers) to get their asses kicked, to be put in the tumbril and sent to the guillotine. This must be done every several generations to keep them afraid, because nothing on earth will keep them honest except fear. The Bush regime postponed the guillotine by mis‐directing the fear of citizens toward Muslims, and avoided a quick military coup at home by sending most soldiers to Iraq and Afghanistan where they are no danger to Washington. I may have put this very simply, but there are times when things need to be put simply.

Simply put. When people fear the government, you have tyranny. When government fears the people, you have liberty. As for me, give liberty or give me death.

Who among you feels they have been well served by the government and their banker friends?

Every incumbent politician needs to be removed. They should be replaced with men who have sweat on their brow and calluses on their hands. Men who love America more than they love power and money. Men who understand that it is better to do the right thing by your fellow citizens, than to betray them for thirty pieces of silver.

That's odd
A marine gets sent to the funny farm for posting on Facebook and .............................
Damn it's quiet in here ........with your 7 and growing flags and stars lol ............
.......it's working !

Hell just by looking at your post probably gets us on a list somewhere

Whole-heartedly agree!

*S&F*

In my humble opinion, people have come to fear the gov't over years of "programming".
They see every propaganda piece on the television and think..."we can't fight them".
They are too "powerful" or too "technologically advanced".

But...WE ARE THEM.
We are the very blood that runs through the veins of this country!
We are those who decide where the money goes!
We are the men and women who provide this gov't the wealth that it spreads!

So why can't WE take it back?
Are we just too programmed to let it go and fight?

I'll be 52 in two more days and I can honestly say that I dont recognize this country anymore. When you have a government that can lock you up for saying anything against them, then you are not free. Since King Obama came to power, we have had the 1st, 4th, and fifth amendment stripped away with the NDAA. It started with Bush, 911, and the Patriot Act, but has really gotten bad with our current Dictator.

It's way past time for the people to take their country back. Most believe that electing Romney will take it back. Romney is the opposite side of the same coin as Obama, and if he gets elected they will bitch about him for the next four years.

I have a feeling that something huge is coming our way. Everyone feels it. Nobody knows what it is though. We will all find out soon though I do believe.

IMO, I dont think Obama is going to give up his office, even if he loses. They have something planned. Only they know what is about to happen and all we can do is watch and be prepared for whatever they might have in store for us.

The people will have their country back, and I for one hope that it is sooner rather than later.

Because your weak

Your divided into groups taught to be suspicious of the other
Separated by technology where your digital friends and contacts are scattered far and wide, unable to unite, rather than close and interactive in person.
Kept this way through fear to go out, and financially confined.
Because your dependent on them and growing more dependent
Your afraid of the Inevitable collapse of the structure they have put in place that benefits you

Your intentionally kept this way

Because you fear to be the first and lead the way, for lack of support as is usually the case, see point above

Because you have hope that things must get better, someone else will come to lead the way

And because you have have faith in your fellow man,
how could they really do this ?
How could anyone do this ?
They must be doing it for a reason !.......... A good reason

And this is the one that's a biggie for me .......
These people and organisations are thinking decades even generations down the line ?

Now even if the most horrific conspiracy theories are true such as population control and GM,
Could there be a good reason ?
Is the current generation more important than the survival of our species 2-300 years down the line ?

An extreme example I know - but gets the point across

You're all right .I don't fear being put on their list ,but I fear for my wife and children.Our country is overrun with malice and deceipt.I hate to think what my children are going to grow up in.So put me on the list ,I wont go away lightly!
Rob

Originally posted by groingrinder

Simply put. When people fear the government, you have tyranny. When government fears the people, you have liberty. As for me, give liberty or give me death.

Who among you feels they have been well served by the government and their banker friends?

Well, to be perfectly honest, I have. Both have been pretty good to me.

I was a Dept. of Defense employee now retired. I had an enjoyable career, didn't make big money but I got by OK. Six years ago this week I retired after volunteering to take an early retirement when my department was wanting to make cut-backs. Under those conditions I qualified for Early Retirement Authority and was able to go out with a meager pension at age 53. I live outside the US and live fairly well on what I make along with my savings and being free of debt. Others in my section were unable to accept the early retirement offer because of debt and sizeable mortgages. I lived frugally and kept debt low.

I have another part of my retirement in a tax-deferred account that took a bit of a hit in 2008. I do not need that money any time soon. I am under the newer federal retirement plan that is paid in part by Social Security. I will be eligible to begin drawing that in less than 3 years and will probably add enough to my monthly pension that I will be able to live fairly nicely on it, somewhat lavishly if I decide to draw from that other tax-deferred account. Fugal as I am I may not touch it for quite a time though.

I had one particular complaint about personal liberties but California, and some other states now, have generally made that a non-issue though I hear the federal government doesn't fully respect the states' laws on that matter.

I agree with you though, give me liberty or give me death, but I have no complaints about enjoying life right now. I still don't trust their foreign policies though, and I don't like other shenanigans they are pulling on friends and family, but then again, I don't live there any more nor have even visited the States since 2007. The country was becoming unrecognizable by the time I left there and have heard it has only gotten worse, which all disheartens me. I am glad I got away from there still with some good memories.

Dammit! I opened the link and now I'm on a list too!
How many times can one person get on their various lists?
(I'm hoping to set a record )

They have no fear of justice because they own the justice system.
The only thing they fear is each other and they well know just how bad that can be.
It's rather satisfying to think about - the PTB are paranoid enough of the people to build this giant security state yet they all know how expendable they are and wonder if they're next to go.

I'll be 53 in a month and I no longer recognize the country I grew up in. Not only have the places changed but the people have as well. They no longer have that spirit of independence and mutual co-operation that living in real neighborhoods used to give you. The people are afraid now but most sadly afraid of each other. The programming of racism, class and economic distinction, rivalry and competition, so much so that we fear other groups of citizens more than we fear the PTB or whoever the hell is running the intelligence/security state apparatus

All their recent stockpiling has me worried something big is head this way as well, likely by the end of the year.
They have to take advantage of the 2012 hysteria to pull off something big to bring the people into complete submission. Will we have the fake alien invasion after all? Who knows? But then I suppose they know, don't they?

Yes, use a book, capital idea!

In order to see what's in the government, we have to look inside their heads. I read that somewhere...

I would go easy on calling for a government coup right now.
You could very well be disappeared in the middle of the night and it WILL be legal for them to do so.
I understand your frustration and share your disappoinment in our government but getting online and even acting like you would support a coup right now is not the smartest thing to do unless you are willing to pay the consequences.

People are so over worked/fluoridated/taxes/poisoned/spyed on/tracked that they are too tired to stand up for themselves even though they should.

reply to post by Screwed


i have told all those i know what to do when and if i disappear. and even the ones who dont believe a word i say about revolution have given their word that if i disappear they will accept all ive said. that will work for me. we all need to start our webs now. tell everyone you know . word spreads quick online. the revolution will be the same. let them come.

Listen Groingrinder, there are lots of things everyone can do to reclaim our governments and banks. What have you done to make the world a better place to live? Judging from the avatar you have chosen, I would guess your not even old enough to get off your X-box to vote, let alone to call for an armed insurrection. Lucky you, cause that means you have time put that joint out, carry on with your education and run for some sort of office and make the changes your generation sees fit. In the mean time why don't you start with something easy like helping an elderly person cross the street, you might just feel better about yourself and the world would be just a little better.
brice

Government Coup? Where can I apply for that grant for building a chicken coup?

reply to post by USpatriot

I just turned 57 this year. I look back and do not know exactly when the country started going to pot, but I have not been satisfied with one single president since JFK. They have all been a bunch of crooks!

reply to post by Neocrusader

We are all on a list somewhere. One more post will not kill you.

reply to post by havok

All we really have to do is quit electing DEMOCRATS and REPUBLICANS. Then we can go after the Bankers and Wall Street once we have politicians who love America more than they love power and money.

reply to post by stillsearchin

Good for you! I also do not intend to go away easily. Our grand children deserve better!

reply to post by Asktheanimals

Once we control the justice system, they will be very afraid.

reply to post by Screwed

Yes, I am willing to pay the consequences. I have done nothing illegal.

reply to post by VforVendettea

Yes they should.

reply to post by Another_Nut

Remember those that will come (police and military) have families that live under the same restrictions we do. Their homes get foreclosed and they lose retirement accounts they have paid into just like we do. Chances are they are just as frustrated too.

reply to post by Erongaricuaro

I am happy that things have gone relatively well for you.

There has already been a government coup where have you been? This so called government is a corporation posing as the original government.

Last thing we need is a military coup. Usually military coups end up in dictatorships. The unlawful government has to be removed by the people not some military force taking power. Until the American people find their roots and heart in liberty we are stuck with what we got. Nothing will happen until they are feeling enough pain.

We don't want war here ask any combat vet what a war torn country is like. We want to avoid that here. Some will say it is impossible but its not. If enough people ever wake up we can take things back without violence. Violence is always an absolute last resort...

Simple non-participation and civil disobedience could take back this country. But none of it will work unless enough people stand together.

How about we quit using the banks for one week? That would bring them to their knees!

reply to post by brice


Your ESP is a little rusty. I have helped little old ladies, children, dogs, cats, boy scouts, elderly, homeless, veterans, the mentally ill and even the illegal aliens that I go on about from time to time. BTW I have never owned an x-box, but I built one of the ZX-81 computer kits when they first came out.

Education? I have found that the real education begins when you leave school.

NOWHERE in my post did I call for an armed insurrection. I merely let you all see what someone smarter than I had to say on the subject. Someone who had a long and fruitful career with the CIA.

reply to post by hawkiye


Thanks, but we do not need non-participation. We need to really participate much more. Every Democrat and Republican needs to be ousted. That will require much participation.

Originally posted by groingrinder
reply to post by hawkiye

 

Thanks, but we do not need non-participation. We need to really participate much more. Every Democrat and Republican needs to be ousted. That will require much participation.

Really? How has participating in a corrupt fraudulent system been working out for us?

While everyone is enamored with the dog and pony show fake elections a young marine was put in a psych ward with no due process and that is just one that we know about while their agenda continues to march on.

Time to face reality Rs & Ds are not going to be ousted anytime soon when there is no way to verify the vote. But hey we need more to participate in that farce... Sigh...

What ever dude good luck with your campaign to use a corrupted fraudulent system to fix itself. Been there done that for over 30 years with many others it hasn't made a hill of beans worth of difference... But hey we got to keep the distractions going with ingrained cliches about voting and participating...