Science rooted in what most would call "Religion"

There appears to be a growing ignorance among fools of the world who willingly hand their minds and lives over to the hidden "Church of Modern Science". These science cult members align themselves with vile ignorant beliefs about society, mankind and history. Their primary expression is one of hate and intolerance which is observable directly through their prideful propagation of their beliefs as "truth".

It is the church of Malthusian Darwinism. They wrongfully believe that somewhere along the line science was born as a fully mature world view with these two theories. Any suggestion that these certified theories are malleable or incomplete results in anger and violent behavior. The fruits of these particular cult members are truly evil as they stand only to dominate and destroy diversity and creativity, two cornerstones of inquisitive learning and real evolution.

They are no different then religious radicals. In fact they are identical in behavior and motive.

Their science is in fact a sect of modern religious belief that has little to do with Real Science. They oppose the REAL questions, while ardently holding onto observable phenomenon that they believe can ONLY be identified and communicated with their nomenclature. They despise investigation into anything they have no answer for. They detest hypotheses while only supporting the agreed upon conclusions delivered through bureaucratic peer "review" (ie: centralized agreed upon beliefs). Self investigation is their enemy. Questions are their enemy.

This science is not science. It is the birth of a modern Religion NAMED Science. And while all those who participate in it are not evil and do not fully believe or support the ignorance, it's central tenants are based on ignorance and evil.

You can identify these people by their hatred for questions they cannot answer and their vehement criticism to anyone who puts forth those questions. They exalt their priests into deity stature even while those priests encourage creativity and personal experience.

They believe their system is true. They have armed their belief system and are violently and shamefully attempting to demonstrate their domination and are willing to DIE for this because their active domination is the only way to prove natural selection. Their domination over all belief systems and ultimately people is their agenda. An agenda born of a hateful desire to be right at any cost.

It's modern eugenics. It's hitler.. It's nazism. It's hateful and it has already failed. That is the sad reality of this newest radical religion.

If you understand REAL science then support it. It is investigation into the most profound questions mankind will ever ponder. Support QUESTIONS and proof WHEREVER it might lead. Bureaucratic peer review belief system IS RELIGION. If you defend what does not stand in the face of Truth and Reality you will not evolve. You will not persist.

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Do they have a website? I can't find anything on 'them'.

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Do they hold mass?

Originally posted by rwfresh

They are no different then religious radicals. In fact they are identical in behavior and motive.

Yeah, it's funny how pairs of opposites work. Can't have one without the other. Like the two sides of a coin. Like a Tango.

“Unity can only be manifested by the Binary. Unity itself and the idea of Unity are already two.”

-Buddha

Bless 'em all, and let God sort 'em out.

Originally posted by jiggerj
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Do they have a website? I can't find anything on 'them'.

No they don't have A website. Like Christianity or Islam doesn't have A website.

Originally posted by ImaFungi
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Do they hold mass?

Are you asking if they conduct and participate in what could be considered ceremony or ritual.. for sure. But no... they don't participate in Christian masses.

en.wikipedia.org...

I guess I am a sort of scientist by trade. I am spiritual by nature.

God provided the Answer. Science proves It. They are not either/or. They both represent truth.

I just hate that modern science chooses to present truth as "other than" when it comes to our existence,

Originally posted by cry93
I guess I am a sort of scientist by trade. I am spiritual by nature.

God provided the Answer. Science proves It. They are not either/or. They both represent truth.

I just hate that modern science chooses to present truth as "other than" when it comes to our existence,

Seems like a balanced open minded reality view. The people i am talking about hate you and insist you are ignorant.

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I am not nor will I ever be.

I guess " they" made a mistake with me.

Especially since I am what is deemed a Black American. My DNA does NOT lie to me nor does it choose sides.

I am multiracial. But I am African to the core.

Originally posted by cry93


I am multiracial. But I am African to the core.

no. No. NO!!!!

You are HUMAN to the core. To assign a label lower than this is to allow others to judge you according to that label, rather than forcing them to see you as 100% equal.

I'm tired of hearing about Black rights, women's rights, gay rights... It's all about HUMAN rights.

Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by cry93


I am multiracial. But I am African to the core.

no. No. NO!!!!

You are HUMAN to the core. To assign a label lower than this is to allow others to judge you according to that label, rather than forcing them to see you as 100% equal.

I'm tired of hearing about Black rights, women's rights, gay rights... It's all about HUMAN rights.

"To assign a label lower than this" - without me going over the top here.. i will just ask.. can you see the ignorance in this? Why not assume that he is expressing positivity rather than assume he has "lowered" himself because his label of HIMSELF is not up to your standard? I can truly understand how you might be tiring yourself with the ideologically policing you've assigned to yourself. Maybe you can just let it go and enjoy diversity however it's expressed. He's talking about himself. I don't see anything lower in it. I see the opposite.

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Exactly.


Sometimes... Sometimes I think I completed my roughing up,

But ITA here.

And BTW I am a girl. All female here.

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YES, 100% here.

ETA it is always interesting that I am mistaken for masculine energy.

I am a black woman.

Originally posted by rwfresh
It is the church of Malthusian Darwinism. They wrongfully believe that somewhere along the line science was born as a fully mature world view with these two theories. Any suggestion that these certified theories are malleable or incomplete results in anger and violent behavior. The fruits of these particular cult members are truly evil as they stand only to dominate and destroy diversity and creativity, two cornerstones of inquisitive learning and real evolution.

Could you tell us the sacred texts used by the Church of Malthusian Darwinism? Is there any way to identify a member or is it a label you have applied? What criteria do you use for this label?

Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by rwfresh
It is the church of Malthusian Darwinism. They wrongfully believe that somewhere along the line science was born as a fully mature world view with these two theories. Any suggestion that these certified theories are malleable or incomplete results in anger and violent behavior. The fruits of these particular cult members are truly evil as they stand only to dominate and destroy diversity and creativity, two cornerstones of inquisitive learning and real evolution.

Could you tell us the sacred texts used by the Church of Malthusian Darwinism? Is there any way to identify a member or is it a label you have applied? What criteria do you use for this label?

Malthus's An Essay on the Principle of Population and Darwin's writings. In and of themselves there is nothing particularly wrong with these old ideas. Just like the teachings of Jesus they have been completely misused and perverted. The people i am talking about are fundamentalists. Many have not even read the complete texts but promote these writings and ideas as 100% infallible and fundamentally true. Fundamentalist Darwinites.

Many atheists like Richard Dawkins.. who are not scientists have based their ideology of hate on the misuse and perversion of these ideas and theories.

I am not a Christian, but use the analogy of the perversion of the teachings and ideas by the bureaucracy around them to help characterize the group i am describing.

Nomenclature and descriptions are not Truth. Ideologies are not Truth. Ideologies are subject to revision as the theory of evolution dictates. The theory itself will evolve into something unrecognizable. But the fundamentalists deny this even as the declare it eternally true.

Originally posted by rwfresh
The people i am talking about are fundamentalists. Many have not even read the complete texts but promote these writings and ideas as 100% infallible and fundamentally true. Fundamentalist Darwinites.
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Many atheists like Richard Dawkins.. who are not scientists have based their ideology of hate on the misuse and perversion of these ideas and theories.

But Richard Dawkins is a scientist and does not say that The Origin Of Species is 100% infallible. Could you name anyone else you think does?

Nomenclature and descriptions are not Truth. Ideologies are not Truth. Ideologies are subject to revision as the theory of evolution dictates. The theory itself will evolve into something unrecognizable. But the fundamentalists deny this even as the declare it eternally true.

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I don't know a single biologist who still believes in many parts of The Origin Of Species, and so if you are accusing people of being fundamentalists and those people don't exist, I think it's fair to say your point is nonsense.

Could you show that any of these people actually exist?

I've often and long said that science is the religion for people that have not been roped in by religion in regards to deeper levels of reality and what is truly possible. Both groups tend to have a limited perspective thereby missing the whole.

In my opinion the battle is addressed here. Psalms 23.

Roles are clearly defined.

The key is to have an open mind and not to subscribe too heavily to any one belief system.

A healthy balance of science, religion, skepticism, and even faith is important in moving forward in a well-educated manner.

Originally posted by ImaFungi
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Do they hold mass?

Almost. They hold that without the Higgs Boson, no one can have mass.