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Interesting idea about "shaped charge" like effects. I'm not convinced that that would be possible/probable though. The main problem is that in both examples we are talking about, the objects appear to have exploded at high altitude, so what is the force of the shaped charge being directed at?
As far as I'm aware, for a sustainable nuclear reaction to occur, the fissionable material has to be very pure, otherwise it's basically just a "dirty bomb". Perhaps that is just what Tunguska was - a big "dirty bomb".
That still perhaps does not explain the Shumacher Levy 9 "discrepancy", but have you checked for followups, and have you checked if Shumacher (and others?) didn't take some aspect into account/underestimated the plume visibility/size? There must be some papers on the subject?
Originally posted by intrptr
You see the remnants of meteor or comet strikes (even Tunguska) are all very small, some are glass or metal spheroids, just like after a nuke test. How come only minute bits remain? Thats one hella explosion to vaporize megatons of matter in the atmosphere.
Originally posted by intrptr
The idea that an asteroid or comet impact would go nuclear is dismissed out of hand by everybody in the industry. Not possible. Not enough energy. Temperature not high enough. Purely kinetic. Case closed.
As I'm sure you're aware, to produce a nuclear blast, a bomb must be very carefully engendered to focus energy in the right place - it seems unlikely to me that this could happen by pure chance in the case of an impact from a natural object.
Perhaps I'm wrong, and so are the experts, but without some evidence that the energy can end up concentrated enough, I think you'll find it very hard to to convince anyone who is knowledgeable about the subject, that it could be possible.
Originally posted by intrptr
I t raises temperature and pressure to the point of splitting a few atoms in an instant. What about over a duration of time and pressure?
That is exactly the opposite of what you want if you want to spit atoms. Spreading out the energy over time dilutes, rather than concentrates the energy, which is counter productive if you want to split atoms.
Originally posted by flowirin
the recent russian event gave a blast 40x larger than tunguska
The blast (not bow shock-wave) occured after 2 minutes, not 5 which would have been expected from the entry parameters. so it occured closer to earth, probably after the meteor reached peak brightness (plasma formation due to ram pressures)
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but that's going to be really really hot, with really really high pressure. on an ionised substrate. hallmarks of fusion experiments....
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by FireballStorm
Hey mentor...
what did you think of what else he said?
The blast (not bow shock-wave) occured after 2 minutes, not 5 which would have been expected from the entry parameters. so it occured closer to earth, probably after the meteor reached peak brightness (plasma formation due to ram pressures)
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but that's going to be really really hot, with really really high pressure. on an ionised substrate. hallmarks of fusion experiments....
I now have a whole other follower in my camp. You saw the russian event.... still say only kinetic?
It would be interesting to hear about any conjecture in the information pipeline...has anyone else raised this yet? After any reply, I have some direct evidence of my own from the event.
Originally posted by intrptr
Does temperature reach "critical" levels in a fireball plasma front, if even for a moment?
Originally posted by intrptr
The radio station sounds "live" but all stations work on a delay. The moment when the fireball is brightest is short but so is that sound. Could the radio broad cast have captured that EMP like noise from the fireball itself? What would cause that?
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It sounds like ordinary radio interference (white noise) to me. It also occurs at around 53 seconds in. EMPs travel at the speed of light, so you would expect them to be picked up by the radio at the same time as the asteroid disintegrated.
Originally posted by intrptr
Is plasma a form of lightning?
No, but plasma is created when lightning occurs.
Originally posted by intrptr
"Rods from God" are expen$ive to orbit and difficult to guide from space. If the targets move or change direction (like a tank, ship or plane) in the "terminal homing phase". Also orbits decay, need too many "platforms" to counter delay times of orbiting satellites, etc. Nice "Star Wars" theory.
We already have means. Depleted Uranium is formed into "arrows" or "darts" and fired "line of sight" from tanks and aircraft to destroy any heavily armored ground targets. This is the reality of already deployed "Rods from God".
Yeah, this is true. I never said they were cost-efficient or practical, but they would still be devastatingly powerful if properly implemented - much more so than conventional DU projectiles.
It sounds like ordinary radio interference (white noise) to me. It also occurs at around 53 seconds in. EMPs travel at the speed of light, so you would expect them to be picked up by the radio at the same time as the asteroid disintegrated.