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And letting enemy closer/launch it missiles is like half win for them.
Originally posted by cyberdude78
This with the retirement along with the F-14's means that the USN is severly cutting back on their ability to defend their fleets from bombers/fighters packing anti-ship missles.
Originally posted by Sanders12
Repeatedly, platforms that are still viable for the 21st century, such as the F-111, F-14, and the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier are being retired.
The decisions to retire older systems stem entirely from the desire of financially-minded lobbyists and politicians seeking to award expensive contracts exclusively to the two biggest defense contractors, Lockheed-Martin and Northrop-Grumman.
Repeatedly, platforms that are still viable for the 21st century, such as the F-111, F-14, and the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier are being retired.
Also, projects systems that provide an advantage, or upgrade for our armed forces : the RAH-66 Comanche helo, the Crusader, and next-gen combat rifle have all been cancelled/shelved. Instead, airborne lasers, scramjets, and other worthless expensive gizmos are being tested. Don't bring up the V-22 Osprey please- it's just the exception that proves the rule (and it can only end in cancellation).
Originally posted by longbow
And if Phoenix was such a great misille, why was it not used more often? For example in Gulf. If I remember correctly it was fired only once and missed it's target (helicopter).
Originally posted by just_a_pilot
Keep in mind that Air to Air missiles are leased by the military until fired.
Originally posted by COOL HAND
BTW the helicopter was shot down with a sidewinder. No Phoenix's have ever been shot in combat by US Navy aircraft.
[edit on 17/11/04 by COOL HAND]
Originally posted by longbow
I have read on strategypage.com that they fired Phoenix on helicopter during GW1 and missed.
Originally posted by COOL HAND
Here is the story:
LINK
As you can see, there was no use of the AIM-54 since the kill was made within visual range.
Originally posted by longbow
I never said they made a kill. I said the fired Phoenix missed it's target - helicopter. Maybe they took it down later with that Sidewinder or it escaped. See above your post.
Originally posted by COOL HAND
No, they are purchased in lots from the manufacturers. As the military expends ordnance they order subsequent lots.
They are held by ordnance depots until issued to units for use.