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Originally posted by xVAMPx
reply to post by Wongbeedman
"I believe in extraterrestrials but majority of stuff i see on the subject is bs based on personal belief"
Originally posted by DissonantOne
I would not call all of them frauds as many simply have undiagnosed psychiatric conditions or delusions brought about by misunderstanding some of the more bizarre neurological functions of the human brain. Things like this include sleep paralysis, hypnogogic hallucinations, or powerful subconscious suggestions as in the case of some types of hypnosis.
Originally posted by dmsuse
You forgot to include waking dreams.
As most people claim to be abducted while in bed.
Waking dreams can account for about 99% of abductions. No need to even mention the other things.
These can seem so real that people can swear blind they saw what they saw, but it was just a dream.edit on 8-7-2012 by dmsuse because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by petrus4
Seeing is believing. I've seen. I believe.
If you are fortunate enough that denial of the existence of extraterrestrials still holds true in your own mind, I would be thankful. I have had my own face less than three inches away from that of a Large Nosed Grey.
I don't care if you've been to war, or what else you've seen. If you have not experienced that, you do not truly know what the word "fear," means.
Originally posted by petrus4
Seeing is believing. I've seen. I believe.
Originally posted by petrus4
If you are fortunate enough that denial of the existence of extraterrestrials still holds true in your own mind, I would be thankful. I have had my own face less than three inches away from that of a Large Nosed Grey.
Originally posted by petrus4
I don't care if you've been to war, or what else you've seen. If you have not experienced that, you do not truly know what the word "fear," means.
Originally posted by Unidentified_Objective
I don't question or doubt the possibility of extra terrestrial life. I think the probability that there is another civilization (Or many) out there is quite high. What I question is the validity of alien abduction claims. I keep reading here how there's proof. Where, exactly? This fascinates me so, I am more than willing and open to look into cases where there is proof! Are you referring to the claims? Because those are a dime a dozen. They mean absolutely zero. Human beings lie about the most mundane things. Study after study has shown that people will say what they think other people want to hear or what other people will find appealing. 10 people will interpret the exact same experience in 10 different ways. Given that fact, and the fact that human perception is rarely objective and cannot be relied upon as evidence....I can't help but disregard 99% of the abduction claims as pure unadulterated BS. Human perception alone is enough to realize that even if someone THINKS they know what they saw....9 times out of 10 they are being emotional, irrational & the fear or the unknown has affected their understanding of what actually took place.
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
Also there has been physical evidence of abduction. The case of Peter Khoury and the hair he had analysed is compelling.
Khoury told Chalker that his encounter of July 23, 1992 began at 7:30 in the morning while he was in bed. He had recently been injured at work and was taking pain medication. Earlier that morning, he had driven his wife to work, then returned home and went back to bed for a short while. Suddenly, he bolted wide awake and sat up. There were two humanoid females sitting on the bed, both entirely naked.
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
You have the cases of Kerry Cahill and Grace Askew where there were multiple witnesses and physical evidence.
In 1993, Cahill and her family were driving to their home in Australia after midnight when they came upon a bright, blinding light. The next thing she knew, Cahill says, was that it was an hour later and she felt very calm, except for the fact that she had lost an hour’s worth of time. Cahill later noticed strange marks on her body and had unexplained tiredness and an infection for the next week.
Another Australian woman who claims to have had alien encounters is Grace Askew. She claims to have first seen a UFO when driving around with her girlfriends one night. Then two weeks later, her 15 year old son was screaming at night and said there was a presence in his room and a strange sound. She looked outside and saw the same UFO she’d seen two weeks ago, this time witnessed by her husband as well.
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
It all depends on whether you have the inclination to look beyond the stereotypical, often repeated abduction stories. I think what many can't get their heads round is that there may be more to our world than physical reality.
I think for some people they could only believe this stuff if they experienced it themselves which I understand, maybe one day a loved one will tell you about experiences they've had and you won't be so quick to dismiss them as confused about sleep paralysis or deluded.