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The reason why there isn't a serious scientific investigation is because of the fringe elements within the field (crackpots) who embrace everything and push it as fact. Ridiculous conspiracy theories such as the American government reverse engineering UFO's and having secret UFO technology, aliens abducting people and probing them, the aliens come from Zeta Reticuli, crackpots that claim to channel the aliens, etc. Until the UFO community decides to remove these crackpots who only discredit the field even more with their concocted ridiculousness they call "theories", the field will never be taken seriously, which is unfortunate.
Originally posted by Unity_99
Its not taking seriously by the shills and black ops and all those programmed to believe and propagate LIES!
UFOS = ET. I know personally. Enough Said!edit on 6-7-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Diablos
So, I've been doing a thorough research on this subject for the past few months (on my spare time, of course), and I've come across some very intriguing cases. Of course, 95% of cases can be explained away by natural phenomenon (swamp gas, sun dogs, the planet Venus, etc) and others by conventional phenomenon (weather balloons, airplanes and jets, flares, etc).
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by Diablos
So, I've been doing a thorough research on this subject for the past few months (on my spare time, of course), and I've come across some very intriguing cases. Of course, 95% of cases can be explained away by natural phenomenon (swamp gas, sun dogs, the planet Venus, etc) and others by conventional phenomenon (weather balloons, airplanes and jets, flares, etc).
I disagree that we have any idea about what percentage of UFO cases can be "explained away by natural phenomenon". I would guess most sightings haven't been investigated at all.
Originally posted by Unity_99
Its not taking seriously by the shills and black ops and all those programmed to believe and propagate LIES!
UFOS = ET. I know personally. Enough Said!edit on 6-7-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Diablos
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by Diablos
So, I've been doing a thorough research on this subject for the past few months (on my spare time, of course), and I've come across some very intriguing cases. Of course, 95% of cases can be explained away by natural phenomenon (swamp gas, sun dogs, the planet Venus, etc) and others by conventional phenomenon (weather balloons, airplanes and jets, flares, etc).
I disagree that we have any idea about what percentage of UFO cases can be "explained away by natural phenomenon". I would guess most sightings haven't been investigated at all.
We are talking about reported UFO's, as the unreported ones aren't of any significant interest since they cannot be investigated. All reported UFO's have been more or less been investigated, and while the vast majority of cases can be explained by natural or man made phenomenon and a small percent cannot be explained, the remaining percentage has been dismissed due to hoaxes, insufficient information, or psychological aberrations (hallucinations).
Originally posted by trystsNo, I believe the vast majority of reported cases are rationalized, not investigated. It's pretty sickening to read a witness describe something bizarre and spectacular, only to see the "investigator's" conclusion being something as absurd as "swamp gas". The percentage you mentioned is a typical percentage often quoted in UFO documentaries, and interviews, but I don't believe it is at all close to accurate.
Originally posted by Diablos
Originally posted by trystsNo, I believe the vast majority of reported cases are rationalized, not investigated. It's pretty sickening to read a witness describe something bizarre and spectacular, only to see the "investigator's" conclusion being something as absurd as "swamp gas". The percentage you mentioned is a typical percentage often quoted in UFO documentaries, and interviews, but I don't believe it is at all close to accurate.
Why would an investigator have any reason to lie? What would they gain from it? Most people are not trained in observing phenomenon in the sky, and many exotic phenomenon such as swamp gas can behave in ways that would mimic a flying object. However, your average Joe won't know that. A lot of the time, the credibility of these people should be taken into question as well since many witnesses of these and "alien abduction" stories also have a history of mental illness.
If investigators are willing to "rationalize" these reports by your logic, then 100% of them would be explained by natural or man made phenomenon, but yet they have come across cases they can naturally not explain at all despite all the evidence and classify as "completely unknown". These are specific cases where credible witnesses have observed unidentified crafts of unknown origin.
Originally posted by trystsOne of the main "investigators" of Project Blue Book, Hynek was his name I believe, said that the military wanted him to debunk UFOs. So, whenever he had an unexplainable case, Hynek would just rationalize with things like "swamp gas".
Originally posted by Blue Shift
The UFO field is not taken seriously because although there is a lot of evidence, nobody can figure out what it's evidence of. Aliens? Hardly. Ghosts and demons? Whatever those are supposed to be. Secret government projects? They ain't saying. Time travelers? Impossible.
Study UFOs and it ultimately gets you exactly nowhere.