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In San Diego Gas & Electric Co. v. Superior Court, 13 Cal. 4th 893 (Cal. 1996), the court held that trespass may not be predicated on intangible intrusions such as noise, odors, light, or electromagnetic fields.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
As a human experimental subject, a clowderette as it were, I have to object.
What are you going to do?
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Just the almost supernatural sky shows, the phenomenal magic observable today
You mean things like this?
HAARP's high-frequency radio waves can accelerate electrons in the atmosphere, increasing the energy of their collisions and creating a glow. The technique has previously triggered speckles of light while running at a power of almost 1 megawatt. But since the facility ramped up to 3.6 megawatts — roughly three times more than a typical broadcast radio transmitter — it has created full-scale artificial auroras that are visible to the naked eye.
But in February last year, HAARP managed to induce a strange bullseye pattern in the night sky. Instead of the expected fuzzy, doughnut-shaped blob, surprising irregular luminescent bands radiated out from the centre of the bullseye, says Todd Pedersen, a research physicist at the US Air Force Research Laboratory in Massachusetts, who leads the team that ran the experiment at HAARP.
It's a puzzle you can't piece together.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
.2. why can't I see the masses of stars I used to be able to see at night
Light pollution?
"You get these contrails from the jets. The rate at which they're expanding in terms of their fractional cover of the stratosphere is so large that if predictions are right, in 40 years it won't be worth having telescopes on Earth anymore - it's that soon.
But Professor Gilmore countered: "There are places where you get relatively fewer clouds - that's where we put our telescopes - but there is nowhere on Earth that you don't get clouds and aeroplanes.
"We know from satellite imagery that clusters of contrails can last for two days. If carried by the upper jet stream through the troposphere, they can travel hundreds of kilometres."
A location has not been decided; but, despite the difficulties of access, Antarctica may become an option.
But seeing as you don't get contrails every day, that would suggest you see lots of stars some days? Do you?
The dimmer the Pleiades, as determined by their apparent size and brilliance, the less rain the area will get six months later, said Benjamin Orlove, an anthropology professor from the University of California at Davis. If the stars are dim, sky-watchers anticipate dry weather and delay planting to reduce crop damage.
Orlove, Mark Cane, atmospheric scientist from Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University, and John Chiang, graduate student at Lamont-Doherty, believe high, thin cirrus clouds obscure the Pleiades, the way thick low clouds sometimes make the sun look like a small disk.
Thin cirrus clouds are invisible from the ground and form above other clouds, near the top of the troposphere, the layer of Earth's atmosphere where weather occurs.
Depictions of the Pleiades often show just six stars because, with the eye alone, most people see only six stars here.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Uncinus
But seeing as you don't get contrails every day, that would suggest you see lots of stars some days? Do you?
Well, again, no, it really doesn't suggest that. Here's another old story (from 2000) put out strategically at the time to 'explain' what was to be a coming phenomenon. (Although in some places in the U.S., it didn't happen until some 3 or so years later.)
Anyway, the story, through a NASA affilliate, is about predicting the potato crop in the Andes by using the visibility of the Pleiades. The Pleiades are a tiny cluster of stars (once thought to be the only cluster where the stars were actually in reality in relationship to each other i.e. within reasonable distances) that look like a tiny mini-dipper.
For more than 400 years, Andean mountain people in Peru and Bolivia have forecasted the most auspicious time to plant potatoes by stargazing
Aymara- and Quechua-speaking farmers watch the skies for a week before the Catholic festival celebrating San Juan (Saint John), June 24. At midnight of the feast day, villagers climb the mountains, arriving at the peaks a few hours before dawn to drink and sing. Looking toward the northeast, where the Pleiades, a cluster of stars in the constellation Taurus, shine not far above the horizon, the farmers gauge the stars' brightness, note the stars' apparent sizes and the positions of the brightest stars.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Uncinus
But seeing as you don't get contrails every day, that would suggest you see lots of stars some days? Do you?
Well, again, no, it really doesn't suggest that. Here's another old story (from 2000) put out strategically at the time to 'explain' what was to be a coming phenomenon. (Although in some places in the U.S., it didn't happen until some 3 or so years later.)
Anyway, the story, through a NASA affilliate, is about predicting the potato crop in the Andes by using the visibility of the Pleiades. The Pleiades are a tiny cluster of stars (once thought to be the only cluster where the stars were actually in reality in relationship to each other i.e. within reasonable distances) that look like a tiny mini-dipper.
The bulk of cirrus (high, thin clouds) are virtually invisible because they don't look like clouds but they still do obscure the view which is most noticeable at night because the stars are obscured.
Stars...Clouds...Crops
The dimmer the Pleiades, as determined by their apparent size and brilliance, the less rain the area will get six months later, said Benjamin Orlove, an anthropology professor from the University of California at Davis. If the stars are dim, sky-watchers anticipate dry weather and delay planting to reduce crop damage.
Orlove, Mark Cane, atmospheric scientist from Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University, and John Chiang, graduate student at Lamont-Doherty, believe high, thin cirrus clouds obscure the Pleiades, the way thick low clouds sometimes make the sun look like a small disk.
Thin cirrus clouds are invisible from the ground and form above other clouds, near the top of the troposphere, the layer of Earth's atmosphere where weather occurs.
In a related but unrelated story, which I can't link because I can't find the link, there was in the early to mid 1990's an astronomers' conference of some kind where one of the speakers had just had laser eye surgery. He excitedly exclaimed that he could now see 7 stars in the Pleiades with the naked eye rather than the usual 6.
Why just six stars in the 'Seven Sisters?'
Depictions of the Pleiades often show just six stars because, with the eye alone, most people see only six stars here.edit on 6-7-2012 by luxordelphi because: correct punctuation
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I assume light pollution would also reflect from aircraft pollution(contrails),
increasing the effects of light pollution to the observer.
Same as clouds would have the same effect.
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I assume light pollution would also reflect from aircraft pollution(contrails),
increasing the effects of light pollution to the observer.
Same as clouds would have the same effect.
The fact that clouds or contrails actually obscure the sky is a much greater factor than their impact on light pollution.
Consider you get light pollution on a clear day with no contrails. Nobody noticed a decrease in light pollution after the 9/11 air shutdown, or the European volcano shutdown.
Light pollution is a constant. Contrail cloud cover varies.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I find this very interesting,
as I wonder how man made cirrus clouds,
affect rain and drought.
Does more planes equal more drought?