Blair blocked Cabinet from hearing legal advice on Iraq

Blair blocked Cabinet from hearing legal advice on Iraq

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MPs demanded an emergency recall of the Chilcot inquiry last night after new revelations that Tony Blair blocked the Government's most senior lawyer from explaining to Cabinet the legality of the war in Iraq.

According to the newly published full version of Alastair Campbell's diaries, the Attorney General Lord Goldsmith wanted to "put the reality" to cabinet ministers that there was a case against, as well as for, military action in March 2003. But, according to his former spin doctor, the then Prime Minister feared that the legal opinion was too "nuanced" and would allow the war's

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Drip, drip, drip.

This just feeds into how Blair pulled all the stops to manipulate his cabinet and the rest of parliament into voting for the war.

The pressure put on Lord Goldsmith to change his legal advice to the government also illustrates this.

Perhaps Murdochs pressure played a role?

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I doubt anything will come of it, but it just highlights to the people of the UK of what a destructive and polarising figure Mr Blair was. I feel those rumors of Blair returning to British politics as a Lord are just that and it will not be tolerated, even by those in the establishment.

Blair responded to these accusations on the BBC today,

"It's not true and what's more we went through this at the Chilcot inquiry," he said. "I'll never win this argument with them over Iraq. "I understand why people still have this disagreement over Iraq and I don't believe we'll ever resolve it, but we should at least have a balanced view on it." He added: "The notion Cabinet never discussed this is absurd. We've been over this so many times. There was no conspiracy."

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reply to post by Peruvianmonk


Both Bush and Blair are both war criminals in my book. How they could continue on with the war in Iraq after they were proven wrong about WMD's is intentionally occupying another country for their own twisted agendas. Not to mention it was a lie to begin with that took thousands of innocent lives and killed thousands who served. Yet our government leaders let them get away with it.

I have no ill feelings for tony blair. The guy was in a tough spot with george bush jr running america and telling no to him would have been worse than telling him the yes. America and britain have always been the best of friends, well other than the revolutionary war.

Most of my ill feelings are geared toward ronald reagan and margaret thatcher. These two conservative "free market" assholes are the reason for the death of socialism throughout the world!

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If you were in the UK at the time you would have noticed the unwavering focus that Blair had on starting a war in Iraq at the time. It was almost desperate, any angle they tried that met with disaproval was modified and they just kept pushing.

The propaganda at the time was shameful and relentless, constantly showing reports on 9/11 terrorism next to reports on Saddam Hussien, linking them together in the publics mind. It worked and many people supported it through fear.

It seemed obvious to me that Blair had an agenda and was determined to go to war whether right or wrong. Who knows who presented this agenda to him. I suspect whoever it was is the same power that will protect him from any prosecution or REAL investigation now. The puppets that do what they were told seem to be rewarded very well.

Blair is a war criminal, he should be found guilty and made to tend the graves of the soldiers and civilians that died as a result of his warmongering

Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

If you were in the UK at the time you would have noticed the unwavering focus that Blair had on starting a war in Iraq at the time. It was almost desperate, any angle they tried that met with disaproval was modified and they just kept pushing.

So if you were Tony Blair you would tell George Bush Jr to go play with himself? Of course he had TO SELL the nwo agenda.

The propaganda at the time was shameful and relentless, constantly showing reports on 9/11 terrorism next to reports on Saddam Hussien, linking them together in the publics mind. It worked and many people supported it through fear.

I believe Saddam Hussein came into the picture later on. The problem with 9-11 was that most people had no idea it was sionist agenda to create havoc in the middle east. The dancing israelis in nj/nyc is very telling of that. Even today lots of people are hugely ingorant eventhough widespread internet access is a reality and people have had lots of clues to go with.

It seemed obvious to me that Blair had an agenda and was determined to go to war whether right or wrong. Who knows who presented this agenda to him. I suspect whoever it was is the same power that will protect him from any prosecution or REAL investigation now. The puppets that do what they were told seem to be rewarded very well.

The capitalists are the nwo. conservative or liberal is virtually the same thing. bilderbergers, masons, sionists, jews, etc.

Originally posted by blueorder
Blair is a war criminal, he should be found guilty and made to tend the graves of the soldiers and civilians that died as a result of his warmongering

Bush Jr is not? If people are stupid enough to vote for conservatives who work for the military-industrial complex and promote religious hatred, then they have no reason to whine about it later imo. That leader got elected for 8 years lol.

I will say it was a big let down though(back stab) from the labor party.....

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by blueorder
Blair is a war criminal, he should be found guilty and made to tend the graves of the soldiers and civilians that died as a result of his warmongering

Bush Jr is not? If people are stupid enough to vote for conservatives who work for the military-industrial complex and promote religious hatred, then they have no reason to whine about it later imo. That leader got elected for 8 years lol.

I will say it was a big let down though(back stab) from the labor party.....

I cannot fathom your response to me- where have I ever indicated Bush is not a war criminal, I was responding to a thread about Blair

- also, I didn't vote for Blair so I can whine all I want

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

If you were in the UK at the time you would have noticed the unwavering focus that Blair had on starting a war in Iraq at the time. It was almost desperate, any angle they tried that met with disaproval was modified and they just kept pushing.

So if you were Tony Blair you would tell George Bush Jr to go play with himself? Of course he had TO SELL the nwo agenda.

The propaganda at the time was shameful and relentless, constantly showing reports on 9/11 terrorism next to reports on Saddam Hussien, linking them together in the publics mind. It worked and many people supported it through fear.

I believe Saddam Hussein came into the picture later on.

Well of course Blair wouldn't tell Bush to F off. They famously liked to suck up to each other in public . They were both puppets on the same side, I don't think they decided the agenda.

I think you mis-understand me about Saddam Hussein. Yes he came into the picture later and was used to scare the British people into thinking Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by blueorder
Blair is a war criminal, he should be found guilty and made to tend the graves of the soldiers and civilians that died as a result of his warmongering

Bush Jr is not? If people are stupid enough to vote for conservatives who work for the military-industrial complex and promote religious hatred, then they have no reason to whine about it later imo. That leader got elected for 8 years lol.

I will say it was a big let down though(back stab) from the labor party.....

I cannot fathom your response to me- where have I ever indicated Bush is not a war criminal, I was responding to a thread about Blair

- also, I didn't vote for Blair so I can whine all I want

I think Tony Blair's hand was forced in my honest opinion. Either Tony Blair said no and tried to expose the whole genocide, which would probably have ended in him committing suicide or suffering a bad accident or he had to BS his way into selling the agenda.

It should not be terribly hard to comprehend where I am coming from....

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I think Bush ENJOYED the genocide as allegedly his father was an ex cia chief and both were skull and bones members at yale university. As for blair I think he was the victim and unfortunately it also sank the labor party in the uk.

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If I remember correctly, the Labour party majority voted against invading Iraq. It was mostly the conservatives who voted yes for the invasion and the very few Labour MPs who said yes, just tipped the balance in favour of the war.

Would be great to see Blair hanging from a rope like Saddam.

The mere sight of the evil liar makes me physically ill.

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Whether you think he was forced or not ( I definitley do not!) , it remains a documented fact that Blair was aware that there was no legal justification for war yet he went ahead. A war that killed hundreds of thousands!

Even if he was co-erced, let him stand trial and spill the facts.

Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
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Whether you think he was forced or not ( I definitley do not!) , it remains a documented fact that Blair was aware that there was no legal justification for war yet he went ahead. A war that killed hundreds of thousands!

Even if he was co-erced, let him stand trial and spill the facts.

Yes. I agree 100% that he should stand trial and face the consequences.

I want the dominoes to start falling and expose the nwo once and for all!

What normally happens is that those lowest on the totem pole take the fall for the rest.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


sorry but you are just deluded, why do you worship Blair so?

Originally posted by blueorder
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

sorry but you are just deluded, why do you worship Blair so?

Worship is a heavy word and you are certainly mispresenting my case.

I simply have some sympathy for him for the reasons previously stated, and because he was the labour party leader.

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Yep but I can't see Blair getting his cumuppance yet. He seems to have been too well rewarded for his part in things and has been subject to the softest of enquiries. Most of our recent Prime ministers seem to be there as a figure head on which people focus their anger over policy decisions wars etc. This is what they get rewarded for in my opinion and they a pretty well protected in their retirement.

An opinion piece from the Independent on the revelations, calling for Blair & Co to be called to account at a reconvened Chilcot Inquiry.

We suspected then that Mr Blair was not wholly candid in his dealings with Cabinet, Parliament and the people. Today, we report the testimony of Mr Campbell, the best-placed chronicler, that Lord Goldsmith, who as Attorney General was the Government's legal adviser, did not want Mr Blair to present his advice "too positively" to the Cabinet. Lord Goldsmith was "casting doubt in some circumstances, and if the Cabinet had to approve the policy of going to war, he had to be able to put the reality to them". On Mr Campbell's account, Mr Blair was reluctant for those doubts to be aired at Cabinet, which was presented days later with a single page of advice, with the arguments against force omitted.

This withholding from his senior colleagues of the arguments on one side of the question might not matter had they been discussing taxing caravans, but they were about to decide whether or not to send British servicemen and women to their deaths, and to unleash the disorder and bloodshed of regime change. As Sir Menzies Campbell demands, the Chilcot inquiry should reconvene to ask Lord Goldsmith, Mr Blair and Mr Campbell about this newly published account.

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I have to agree with this. Blair must be delighted with his boyfriend Campbell for dredging this all back up for him to deal with.