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In My Humble opinion, this is at the core, the heart of it all.
What if these Ancient Egyptian figures are the beings who actually control our world and the freemasons have concealed them from the masses with stories and fables so we can't communicate with them and seek them.
How can anyone confirm who created mankind, who currently rules over humanity, and what purpose humans serve?
The truth is revered, it isn't the Masons who hide them, it is those ancient rulers who want no contact with us. Again its all about the true meaning of symbols. Freemasonry professes a lifestyle which is based in unconditional love and acceptance. This doctrine is also prevalent in those "Ancient Egyptians". There are other names for them but I will use your reference since the Ra sun God is present and denotes sun worship and the Halo. The mindset was handed down, not handed up, on one level, and on another completely reversed.
so we can't communicate with them and seek them.
I read this after I posted the above. It brings a smile to my face. I can not argue any point you make. The only difference is I call "God", the "Divine". And if anyone has studied history long enough you will see why.
The counterfeit to this last statement is this: When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
The difference is subtle. With Jesus and the Holy Spirit, the teacher is always willing and the student needs not be ready. A willingness to open our mind to God is all it takes. Faith is produced by God. Our education is produced by the Holy Spirit of God, acting on a willing and eager heart, to receive wisdom, knowledge and understanding from a benevolent benefactor.
Why would we seek the world's wisdom? Why would we willingly seek error? Why would we hide behind our works when the motivation is duplicity? The answer is obvious.
We don't need an organization of men to seek God or do good works. We just need God, along with a willing and contrite heart. When pride is humbled, God's authority and wisdom fills the gap.
I would like to take this just a little further, if I may.
When pride is humbled, God's authority and wisdom fills the gap.
Originally posted by disgustingfatbody
reply to post by angrysniper
Believe what you like. I'd prefer a literal translation. Then there's no room for error.
Originally posted by angrysniper
Originally posted by disgustingfatbody
reply to post by angrysniper
Believe what you like. I'd prefer a literal translation. Then there's no room for error.
I'd rather believe what makes logical sense.
Ahh, to some your words are without logic and hollow, to others just a loss. To some may even mean the end to outdated symbology getting ready to go the way of the dinosaur.
Logic is a word that many of the preachers here either don't understand or choose to ignore.
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
reply to post by W3RLIED2
Ahh, to some your words are without logic and hollow, to others just a loss. To some may even mean the end to outdated symbology getting ready to go the way of the dinosaur.
Logic is a word that many of the preachers here either don't understand or choose to ignore.
There is two types of logic, the true and the false. Choose your path wisely and follow it to the end. We all will!
Good luck brother, and I mean that most sincerely......
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Look at our avatars, do they not have a similarity? Do they not reflect opposites, but yet one in the same?
edit on 4-6-2012 by All Seeing Eye because: edit to add.
No argument there, not at all One full of light, and simple, the other, dark, complicated, and hidden, by a "light".
Originally posted by angrysniper
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
reply to post by W3RLIED2
Ahh, to some your words are without logic and hollow, to others just a loss. To some may even mean the end to outdated symbology getting ready to go the way of the dinosaur.
Logic is a word that many of the preachers here either don't understand or choose to ignore.
There is two types of logic, the true and the false. Choose your path wisely and follow it to the end. We all will!
Good luck brother, and I mean that most sincerely......
Added
Look at our avatars, do they not have a similarity? Do they not reflect opposites, but yet one in the same?
edit on 4-6-2012 by All Seeing Eye because: edit to add.
Dark is not light. Dark is the absence of it.
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
As one anonymous Mason shared with me, he found more truth outside of the organization than he ever did from within.
Even though our "Paths" differ, our individual goals are the same. I am not your enemy, nor you mine. We are both travelers looking for the truth of the light. The only difference is I have found that core truth, outside of Masonry. You may agree, disagree as you choose, it is a divine gift to you, and me.
Originally posted by W3RLIED2
reply to post by All Seeing Eye
My avatar has meaning to me, and it also is a creative way to let other masons know that I am a brother. A quick u2u is all it takes to confirm this with another.
I also just like the color black. And it was put together for me by a friend.
You guys can project anything you want on to it. It's still totally badass.
I must agree, but "We" did not make it hidden and complicated, another force is responsible for that. "We" must try to set our differences apart and start working together to untangle the mess we are left with. If we can do this, and I think we can, the reward will be far greater than "I" can even imagine.
It's a simple matter of respect and acceptance but one that is complex, and really not so simple.
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I finally sat down and watched the whole video.
Two things struck me immediately.
1. I am now even more interested in Masonry.
2. How am I supposed to take this man seriously when he refers to beautiful ancient history as,
"Egyptian crap"
and
"Babylonian #"
As a scholar, I find this man so far beneath anyone's attention.
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Well, I am a professor of ancient near eastern religions, so you could say that I am inclined to appreciate history.
As to your first point, I am in agreement with professor Don Redford, that the "Jews" were, in fact, the Hyksos. The Hyksos practiced sole worship of the god Set, who is now known as Yahweh. This supposed Exodus of 2.5 million from a country numbering around 3-4 million at the time is not recorded anywhere in Egyptian sources. This is so unlikely as to be comical. However, when we take into account the stories themselves and the toponymy, the expulsion of the Hyksos is the only explanation that makes sense.
As to Enoch being Hermes - I'm sorry but this is pure Interpretatio Hebraica. And it is wrong, both from a historical and a spiritual standpoint. Hermes/Ningishzidda/Thoth/Anubis/Hermanubis/Hiram Abiff/John the Baptist/Gabriel/Satan whichever name you wish to call Him. He is my god, and Enoch is not one of His names.edit on 4-6-2012 by CodyOutlaw because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Well, I am a professor of ancient near eastern religions, so you could say that I am inclined to appreciate history.
As to your first point, I am in agreement with professor Don Redford, that the "Jews" were, in fact, the Hyksos. The Hyksos practiced sole worship of the god Set, who is now known as Yahweh. This supposed Exodus of 2.5 million from a country numbering around 3-4 million at the time is not recorded anywhere in Egyptian sources. This is so unlikely as to be comical. However, when we take into account the stories themselves and the toponymy, the expulsion of the Hyksos is the only explanation that makes sense.
As to Enoch being Hermes - I'm sorry but this is pure Interpretatio Hebraica. And it is wrong, both from a historical and a spiritual standpoint. Hermes/Ningishzidda/Thoth/Anubis/Hermanubis/Hiram Abiff/John the Baptist/Gabriel/Satan whichever name you wish to call Him. He is my god, and Enoch is not one of His names.edit on 4-6-2012 by CodyOutlaw because: (no reason given)
Hermanubis
A selection of articles related to Hermanubis:
Hermes Trismegistus (Greek for "Hermes the thrice-greatest", Greek: Ερμης ο Τρισμεγιστος) or Mercurius ter Maximus in Latin, is the syncretism of the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian Thoth. In Hellenistic Egypt, the god Hermes was given as epithet the Greek name of Thoth. He has also been identified with Enoch
Anubis, is the Greek name for the ancient god in Egyptian mythology whose hieroglyphic is more accurately spelt Anpu (also Anup, Anupu, Wip, Ienpw, Inepu, Yinepu, or Inpw). Prayers to Anubis have been found carved on the most ancient tombs in Egypt, indeed the Unas text (line 70) associates him with the Eye of Horus. Anubis - Lord of the dead
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Well, I am a professor of ancient near eastern religions, so you could say that I am inclined to appreciate history.
As to your first point, I am in agreement with professor Don Redford, that the "Jews" were, in fact, the Hyksos. The Hyksos practiced sole worship of the god Set, who is now known as Yahweh. This supposed Exodus of 2.5 million from a country numbering around 3-4 million at the time is not recorded anywhere in Egyptian sources. This is so unlikely as to be comical. However, when we take into account the stories themselves and the toponymy, the expulsion of the Hyksos is the only explanation that makes sense.
As to Enoch being Hermes - I'm sorry but this is pure Interpretatio Hebraica. And it is wrong, both from a historical and a spiritual standpoint. Hermes/Ningishzidda/Thoth/Anubis/Hermanubis/Hiram Abiff/John the Baptist/Gabriel/Satan whichever name you wish to call Him. He is my god, and Enoch is not one of His names.edit on 4-6-2012 by CodyOutlaw because: (no reason given)
Unworthy1 says:
May 11, 2011 at 4:45 am
The true story of the one who went to the heavens and passed on knowledge to mankind is that of Enoch and the watchers. The other related stories are the perverted mythologies of those who did not retain the knowledge of GOD.
These stories can be found in Scripture, and in the Book of Enoch.