Martial Law in Montreal

Army to be mobilized to deal with Montreal protests.

I find this particular topic fitting under the category of New World Order
since the real possibility of martial law in Montreal to deal with
peaceful demonstrations is quite real indeed. It is no longer a question of if, but when.
When reservists tell you that they have been informed by their superiors that their services
may be required to deal with the protests in the foreseeable future,
the appropriated feelings associated with this information should be shock,
disbelief, anger, resentment and finally resistance.

The protests were under control before law 78 came into effect.
What we had was minor altercations between police and youths
during the night. There was barely any vandalism committed,
compared to all the other protests we have been witnessing,
say Greece or Italy for instance. Libya was a civil war so let's not even go there,
we can easily say that for the most part, the majority of demonstrations were always peaceful,
well, until the police showed up. No one acted in violent manners until the police
begun to beat and arrest people, then anarchists saw a chance to even the score.
But even then, it is nothing compared to Greece,
we did not witness 50 people throwing Molotov cocktails
while another 50 throw rocks at police (except Victoriaville,
that was a serious skirmish involving brick throwing).
So, like I said, what we had was a standoff between police and protesters,
to see who could outlast who. The fight here was financial,
to see what would run out first, youth morale, or the government treasury.
Keep in mind that it costs a lot for the government to keep paying police overtime to deal with
the massive protests in the city. So, a standoff, and it seemed like things might be dying down,
but I guess that monkey face Charest didn't like how long it was taking,

So he had his goons sign in Law 78.

The moment law 78 came into effect, also known as the special law, things got crazy.
On the 22nd of may we had an intense increase in protester numbers, why?
Because Law 78 makes it a criminal offense to protest,
you can be fined between 1,000$ to 5,000$ if you are arrested,
and to get arrested it seems all you need to do is to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Let's just say this sparked a massive resistance from libertarian groups,
from Unions (since protest is their only method of getting their way,
and we have MANY unions), to students.
If someone feels like posting a picture showing just how many people
attended the May 22nd protest, feel free, I don't know how.

So now we had a huge backslash from the population rejecting this blatant
infringement on their rights, politicians aren't elected to do as they please,
they are there to listen to the people. Don't even get me started about the massive
amounts of propaganda in the mainstream media, forums and blogs about this event,
we will probably witness some here too. Let's just say, it is no longer a secret
as to whom these people work for. Some are paid cops fighting an information war,
some are brainwashed uneducated individuals who just don't know any better,
but for the most part, they are cognitive dissonance operatives who twist reality.
They keep repeating the same lies, that Quebec students have the cheapest education,
yet they compare nominal tuition costs rather than real tuition costs,
real tuition costs account for inflation and CPI of each city, and if you travel,
you'd know that each city has different inflation and CPI rates.
They say the kids are selfish and don't wish to pay their fair share,
while forgetting to mention that upon graduation, those same students will be paying taxes
to cover the next generation's education, so this isn't about being selfish.
I am a university student, I work as well, and I pay taxes, I'd love free education,
but again, as opposed to what the cognitive dissonance agents would like you to believe,
this is about resisting a tuition hike that would double the cost of going to school making
it unaffordable for a vast majority of students, not about making education free,
however I DO believe that education is a right, if not the logical thing for a government to do,
since it only makes sense to invest in creating an educated population, unless of course
democracy is a curtain, a veil that hides the truth, that we are not living in a democratic system
but rather a Bourgeois Dictatorship. This might sound a bit Bolshevist to some,
but a spade is a spade, no matter what language one chooses to describe it.

So why are students so angry? The costs of living is insane in Quebec, you know why?
Because this Province is the most corrupted in all of Canada, and most probably in all
of north America. The wealth gap between wealthy and poor is astounding, and guess what,
it's getting worse. Homeless litter the downtown streets, shelters are overcrowded,
the government doesn't care. What does the government do with all its revenue?
- Income taxes
- Sales Taxes
- Alcohol monopoly that yields billions each year
- Energy monopoly (Hydro-Quebec)
- Gas tax
- Tobacco tax
- Please insert anything I have missed, I'm sure I have.
If you go into a Quebec Hospital, you will not believe how bad it is,
it takes hours before you are serviced, the reason is funding, straight from the horses mouth.
I remember high school, classes were continuously getting larger and larger to save money.
Worse and worse education, learning less and less, the majority of pupils being in classes
that were instituted for under performing students. Curriculum a total zero.
I can only imagine it now...

So the real question is, where does all the money go?

-Corruption scandals in the newspapers all the time linking all levels of government.
- No real jobs anywhere.
- Minimum wage service jobs at ever corner.
Even then you have to beg to get in. Rent is so high even if you work 40 hours,
which you never will because of corporate fear of paying overtime, you will not
be able to afford it. Don't even think about food and basic necessities.
Everyone is living off of credit and their parents.
Obviously, the older generations do not see this because they do not LIVE IT.
But the youth do see this, and this is why they are on the streets.
They are there because their service jobs were shipped to India.
They are there because their manufacturing jobs were shipped to China.
They are there because they can't get proper healthcare at the clinics and hospitals.
They are there because they can't afford an education,
and if they do they don't learn anything useful.
They are there because our beloved country is turning into a Third World Dictatorship.
And the unions are joining the youth in protest.
Because their jobs are being shipped overseas,
because of salary cuts when inflation is rampant.

And now? Now the Government wants to use the army to stop
the people from expressing their unhappiness in a peaceful manner.

If SHTF, Quebec will be where it starts.

Comments?

The army is being deployed? Didn't seem like law enforcement was short on ressources, last night... Do you have a source for that info?

Here is a link to le Journal de Montréal with a couple of pics.

Those of the printed newspaper edition this morning were rather eloquent.

Manif

reply to post by laterallateral


I discussed the situation with a reservist.
He told me that everyone received a memo about
being deployed. He didn't provide details.
And like you said, last night, I think this government
intends to ban protest DURING THE DAY.

reply to post by Radekus


There is another thread or two about this "event" but you have been pretty eloguent in laying it out and summarizing, so S&F for you. If you want to embed videos, just use the youtube link, copy and past the characters after the "=" in the location bar of the youtube video into the 'link" location request on the page where you are adding the link. For the video I am adding here, the URL (location) is;

"www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zIO4FgXN1CY"

What you use is the zIO4FgXN1CY and with the VID: YOUTUBE link you get



There ya go, it should work.

Cheers - Dave

Originally posted by Radekus
reply to post by laterallateral

 

I discussed the situation with a reservist.
He told me that everyone received a memo about
being deployed. He didn't provide details.
And like you said, last night, I think this government
intends to ban protest DURING THE DAY.

edit on 23-5-2012 by Radekus because: (no reason given)

But apparently, 90% of the damage to property and the skirmishes with police are occurring at night. Seems pretty silly to ban them during the day when they aren't as problematic. Oh wait, it's easy to video during the day and get the rest of the country to start doing the same thing as in Montreal.

Cheers - Dave

CBC video link to the situation:

reply to post by Radekus


Ok, well I just asked a reservist friend of mine that operates out of Montreal and he says he hasn't heard anything about that... He may not be at liberty to comment about it and maybe your source is more candid, who knows...

Some Concordia University television footage:



Anyone got the one where That "person" Charest discusses how the same
protestors you see there should become future employees in the north?
This joke about how youths should be deported to "Siberian Gulags" is with no taste at all.

Sensationalism... A protest is only illegal if you're more than 50 people and don't advise the police station 8 hours before it begins and / or don't submit the route the protest is going to take. Of course it will also declared illegal if there's any violence, and the cops are also allowed to re-route the protest as they see fit. The problems comes when the SPVM uses agent-provocateurs to provoke the protesters and then declare it illegal... Last Sunday a cop dressed as a citizen (he had special GI blue boots) opened up a fire hydrant just to create some chaos. That's #ed up. Also some videos from cops being crazy is heating up the conflict.

See these:
www.youtube.com...
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reply to post by laterallateral


Well, I hope it's all rumor, because if it's not we're gonna end up with more of this:



And maybe even this:

Support is coming in from all sides and all countries.

The following was just posted on YT. Written and sung by Jon Lajoie. Enjoy.

reply to post by MrMaybeNot


It's only illegal if you refuse to be covered in red tape and follow your democratic right to assemble
without the authorization from some people in black suits.
What's next? Free speech zones?
Future laws where you can only protest in areas you will never be heard in.
But eh, you can protest right?
When will enough be enough?
The government doesn't give in, neither should the people.
Simple answer, NO!

reply to post by Radekus


This is a temporary special law that expires in July 2013 written to deal with violent protesters, who are only a small minority. The sad reality is that laws are often written to deal with abuse from a very small % of the population. Everyone pays for the actions of few. A random guy on twitter posted that the army would be brought in. There's not one mention of "army" from the news, or any viable sources.

In fact yesterday we had the biggest protest of them all with a few tens of thousand of people and it was mostly peaceful.

Where is the link regarding the Army being used in Montreal?

Please source that, cause I don't believe it.

~Tenth

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Where is the link regarding the Army being used in Montreal?

Please source that, cause I don't believe it.

~Tenth

I can assure you it's not true, just one tweet from one random guy on twitter.

reply to post by MrMaybeNot


THANK YOU.

Cauise as a fellow Canadian, I would have to drop everything, and go stand in line with my fellow Canucks against that kind of tyranny.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I can assure you I'd be right behind you.

I think a lot of people would leave their homes if it ever came to that,
and I'm pretty positive it wouldn't be to protest either.

Man I'm fed up with people who have it all wrong...


LAW 78 DOESN'T STOP PEOPLE FROM PROTESTING OR MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO DO SO


Law 78 only says the following:

Bill 78 declares illegal any picket or "form of gathering" by strike supporters within 50 meters of the "outer limits" of the "grounds" of any university or CEGEP building.[10] The bill requires student associations, unions representing teachers, and CEGEP or university employees to "employ appropriate means to induce" their members to comply with its provisions, or face prosecution.

and

The bill furthermore declares illegal all demonstrations of over 50 people, organized for any purpose and at any location in Quebec, unless the locations and routes of those locations have been submitted to and approved by Quebec police.

It doesn't make protests illegal and the SPVM (montreal police) and the SQ (quebec provincial police) have said multiple times that they wouldn't refuse an itinerary... All the people have to do is show an itinerary at least 8 hours in advance and the protest will be legal... Not to mention not throwing rocks and molokhov cocktails at the police for no reason...

In Paris you need to give 2 days notice (or risk going to jail for 6 months), in New York 5 days notice...

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT