New anti-piracy propaganda to run before movies, courtesy of FBI, ICE, and MPAA

e. Two new anti-piracy warnings will soon be added to select DVD and Blu-ray movies, the U.S. government announced late Tuesday. The additional warnings come courtesy of a coalition of copyright infringement fighters that includes the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center (IPR Center), U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) wing, the FBI, and six member studios of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA).

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News Release From ICE

So these new screens are going to last longer and are not going to have the ability to be skipped. I suppose I don't really see the point. People who pay for the DVD (the people who will be seeing these messages) have already, um, paid for the DVD. It seems like a rather pointless annoying endeavor by the government. It obviously hasn't worked before, so forcing us to sit through the damn 'ads' for even longer (I know, I know... First World problems) before watching a movie WE PURCHASED seems preposterous. I don't see this having any noticeable effect on piracy numbers. Yelling at the honest people and giving the pirates a good laugh... Great move.

For the conspiracy minded, do you think that these additional measures are a way to brainwash the masses?

Do you think it likely that throwing up more anti piracy graffiti in front of a movie you own will in any way deter you or others from pirating?

Does anyone else find it disturbing the government (who are supposed to represent and work for the common man) are essentially running around breaking kneecaps for a conglomerate of motion picture companies? I do.

For the conspiracy minded, do you think that these additional measures are a way to brainwash the masses?

Propaganda? yes. Brainwashing? No.

A slight difference of definitions, BUT what they are showing is not brainwashing.

Not that I think the messages are necessary, but do you think that just because YOU paid for it, it grants you the right to give friends/family the movie to copy? Not saying you would specifically, but that is the audience the message is intended for.

Fine to buy the movie, but the distribution of it is the illegal part.

Anything that they can do to demonize people who they think are taking their profits. Forget about the crappy economy and that 95% of the stuff they pump out is pure garbage.

reply to post by Ghost375

Propaganda? yes. Brainwashing? No.

Agreed poor choice of words on my part.

Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
Anything that they can do to demonize people who they think are taking their profits. Forget about the crappy economy and that 95% of the stuff they pump out is pure garbage.

If you were making a product, you'd be pissed too if people were taking your profits.

Plus they aren't even "demonizing" people.
All they're say is a simple matter of fact statement, that's far from demonizing.
Whether you support the law is a different story. What they say is still a fact.

For the conspiracy minded, do you think that these additional measures are a way to brainwash the masses?

Yes... A form of conditioning. It's kind of ignorant to ignore it or claim that it isn't, in part, intended. It is a subtle form of marketing.

They did this to my generation with anti-drug programs in schools. Most grew up realizing they were all lied to for an agenda though, and now it seems silly.

Oh goody... More Nanny-Nag messages.. I'm sure that'll solve the whole problem. Yes Sir! It's all a matter of education, don't ya know? People just don't KNOW there are law's about downloading movies and music.

I have no doubt that once everyone had gotten the word they all missed somehow, their campaign will have been a success and all will be right with the world again. After all, it can never be that people just don't agree with or particularly CARE what they think in Washington. Oh not, that couldn't be it. We're just too dumb to get it and require far more educating right down our collective throats.


I'm thinking we aren't the ones having the problem 'getting it' these days.

Originally posted by Ghost375

For the conspiracy minded, do you think that these additional measures are a way to brainwash the masses?

Propaganda? yes. Brainwashing? No.

A slight difference of definitions, BUT what they are showing is not brainwashing.

I disagree. If a screen came up in your car everytime you started it reminding you not to speed, drink and drive, or leave your seat belt unbuckled, it would be a means of brainwashing.

There are other methods to discuss these things, and promote positive behavior.

As the OP already mentioned, if you paid for it, you saw the message; and you didn't pirate it. Needless.

Originally posted by Domo1
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Propaganda? yes. Brainwashing? No.

Agreed poor choice of words on my part.

not really. the difference is pretty small.

Its just like the war on drugs. They made you pay a outrageous fine and put you in prison for 50 years. I wonder if they are trying to gain control of media by making piracy illegal so they can be pirates and make money off of it just like drugs. There will all ways be piracy, no matter if its underground or out in the open.

I suggest everyone read this post thoroughly. It explains how brainwashing really works.

Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by Ghost375

For the conspiracy minded, do you think that these additional measures are a way to brainwash the masses?

Propaganda? yes. Brainwashing? No.

A slight difference of definitions, BUT what they are showing is not brainwashing.

I disagree. If a screen came up in your car everytime you started it reminding you not to speed, drink and drive, or leave your seat belt unbuckled, it would be a means of brainwashing.

There are other methods to discuss these things, and promote positive behavior.

As the OP already mentioned, if you paid for it, you saw the message; and you didn't pirate it. Needless.

Brainwashing is a little more complex than just being exposed to propaganda. Because there's two types of propaganda. logical and emotional propaganda. Logical propaganda would include things such as school, or reading the news. Emotional propaganda ignores logic and goes straight to playing with emotions. It's the emotional propaganda that causes brainwashing. You wouldn't classify learning math in school as "brainwashing" would you? Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of brainwashing done in school and the news with emotional propaganda. But you wouldn't call the school and news brainwashing if they were being done properly.

While this propaganda does say "victimless crime," I don't consider it as drawing on emotions, because it is still stating a fact. If they flashed a picture of a murder afterwords, and compared it to that, then it would be "brainwashing."

For example, if they flashed the message, "You could die from a car crash if you drink and drive" it's a complete fact. Now if they showed a picture of a graphic car crash afterwords, then it'd be brainwashing.

Aldous Huxley explains how propaganda and brainwashing works very well in most important essay on the internet

It really is a slight difference in definitions, BUT the effect is vastly different in each case.

I steal everything off the internet..

so i will prolly not see that ....

reply to post by Ghost375

Brainwashing is a little more complex than just being exposed to propaganda

Agree. I think conditioning would have been a better choice of words on my part. Conditioning to me is a bit different than propaganda. Propaganda is a sign saying if you steal, your a naughty Nelly. Conditioning is someone saying it to you every time you buy something.

I better go look up both words.

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Lold hard. The crazed look in dudes eyes when he transfers from 8-bit to normal was great. I do feel like that video is missing wheelchair kid though. It's not PC without wheelchair kid.

reply to post by Ghost375

While this propaganda does say "victimless crime," I don't consider it as drawing on emotions, because it is still stating a fact. If they flashed a picture of a murder afterwords, and compared it to that, then it would be "brainwashing."

Great to know you don't consider "fear" an emotion:

(I suppose you will volunteer for 5 years behind bars and a 250k fine. You can pay me the fine btw )





Lets not even discuss the purpose behind driving statutes shall we...

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Does anyone else find it disturbing the government (who are supposed to represent and work for the common man) are essentially running around breaking kneecaps for a conglomerate of motion picture companies? I do.

It’s disturbing to me but what has the government done lately that isn’t?

Serious propaganda…Don’t F with our CORPORATIONS!!

I wonder what will happen if we ever manage to get to a point in the future where we can share the images that we store in our brain. They will make it so everyone has to walk around with blindfolds. But until then, we should also start sending artists that paint images of privately owned properties without permission to jail.

Related thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Ghost375

While this propaganda does say "victimless crime," I don't consider it as drawing on emotions, because it is still stating a fact. If they flashed a picture of a murder afterwords, and compared it to that, then it would be "brainwashing."

 

Great to know you don't consider "fear" an emotion:

(I suppose you will volunteer for 5 years behind bars and a 250k fine. You can pay me the fine btw

)





Lets not even discuss the purpose behind driving statutes shall we...

Of course I think fear is an emotion, and of course the threat of 5 years behind bars is scary.
However, I'm not pirating videos, that threat isn't directed at me. Therefore, that message doesn't really invoke any fear in me or most people who don't pirate videos. And I doubt that message scares many of the people who do the pirating either.