Illuminati/Occult themes in Doom metal

I've seen plenty of threads on the link between rap music and the illuminati/occult but I have never seen a thread on these influences in regard to heavy metal. Granted, many of these songs are heavy on lyrical nature and not so much on visual cues. Also, I should be more specific as the music that prominently displays such lyrics is referred to as Doom metal. Stoner doom metal is a hybrid of the two.

Here's a few of my favorites. Two are blatant but the third must be heard to believe as it was written nearly 19 years ago.

Reverend Bizarre- Aleister

One man came among the men, wisdom within: the truth!
The rituals of the Elder Gods, far before the Christ who failed.
But the common men couldn't understand.
In their eyes he was damned.
He was forced to leave his fatherland, but the curse was cast upon them all.

This one man changed our world with his new doctrine of Will,
and now we walk at the footsteps of this magnificent man. To Mega Therion! Oh yeah!

Reverend Bizarre- Aleister

Ozzy Osbourne- Mr.Crowley

Mr Crowley - Blizzard Of Ozz
Mr. Crowley, what went down in your head (Oh)
Mr. Crowley, did you talk to the dead
Your lifestyle to me seemed so tragic
With the thrill of it all
You fooled all the people with magic
(Yeah)You waited on Satan's call

Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure
Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport
Uncovering things that were sacred, manifest on this earth
(Oh)Conceived in the eye of a secret
Yeah, they scattered the afterbirth

Mr. Crowley, won't you ride my white horse?
Mr. Crowley, it's symbolic of course
Approaching a time that is classic
I hear that maidens call
Approaching a time that is drastic
Standing with their backs to the wall

Was it polemically sent?
I wanna know what you meant
I wanna know
I wanna know what you meant, yeah!

(lyrics included in video link)

Count Raven- Masters of All Evil (1993)

There is only one truth around us today
I tell you what is gonna come, it ain't no fairy tale
There is a group of families that holds our destiny
In pact with the darkest one, they rule the economy
The metropolitan 400 they are called
But in the end the 7 families rule them all
Those families of evil, set all presidents to rule
But they are all just puppets, they’re the masters' favourite tools

The masters of all companies you can call them too
So much money it seems with it they don't know what to do
For instance they financed the entire world war two
Or did you think that Hitler all alone could pull it through
But that occurance it is a story of its own
An attempt to get the darkest one much earlier on the throne
And the war against the jews, it's so very clear
Without them on this earth the proof of God wouldn't be here
Would it ?!

You're truly the masters of evil
Abomination, the ultimate sin
Rats, cold hearted rats
Rats, cold hearted rats
Destroyers of earth and the father's foundation
You'll burn in hell 'cause it's your dream
Cold hearted rats
Rats, cold hearted rats

A thousand years of crying
All those fears and denyings
The 7 families are here
The 7 years are near

Marx called them "das Kapital", we say democracy
God call them the devil, so many names, it's hard to see
Those sick perverted a******* must achieve their goal
To lose this war with Satan, and thrash all human souls

Global destruction; their number one game
Or is the hole in the sky a joke of the insane
So let them have your money, just don't give them your soul
Live free and easy and remember what I told

Count Raven- Masters of All Evil

What say you? Do you have anything similar to share?

Can we include Black metal bands?
I mean, the Lords of Chaos boys?
Because then we could have some fun

reply to post by CodyOutlaw


Sure thing!

I don't mind!

reply to post by The Sword


Not really a metal fan, so I just read the lyrics of the songs that you provided. Seems like the first 2 Aleister, and Mr. Crowley seem to be praising the dark arts. But the last song "Count Raven- Masters of All Evil" seems to be sort of a disclosure into what they found out. A warning perhaps? I thought all metal bands just worship evil and hate. Guess I shouldn't judge a book by its cover!

reply to post by SLAPurMAMA


Indeed you shouldn't!

Hell, just listen to "Under The Sun" by Black Sabbath. Ozzy declares that he doesn't need no preacher man nor a dark arts master, etc.



I haven't fully fleshed out my idea for this thread but feel free to differentiate wherever necessary.

Ministry has been "exposing" TPTB since the 80's....

Al Jourgensen is banned from the state of Texas permenantly
(ozzy was for only a decade) for anti bush support & gun charges.

Listen to hizzbolah, thieves, golden dawn,NWO, etc....

First real artist of that genre to hit those subjects.
On my phone so I can't post links.

reply to post by thepupils


That's true but there's no way that they were the first.

I think this started as far back as the counterculture of the 1960s, if not earlier.

Are you talking of the FIRST band ever? Or just bands/artists of the past?

reply to post by The Sword


You don't even want ot get me started on a list of bands that would fit into this thread...lol...but I have to post at least one or two.

Here's a little Hed P.E. that covers alot of conspiracy, NWO, and occult topics....not really a Doom Metal band, but still fits the bill.

Explicit Language within: You have been warned.

Music is probably the best method for exposing/informing the masses of topics
Of that nature that most people may not have been informed of.

Without Maynard from Tool, the young generation of now, may not have even
Heard of Carl Gustave Jung. (third eye, 46&2,etc...)

Your sure as hell not going to find out about these subjects watching
Fox news,msnbc,biggest looser,American Idol...

Music is a great information outlet if you look deep into the root of the artists lyrics!

Yay!

Well, I have to start with Mayhem, then:

Welcome !
To the elder ruins again.
The wind whispers beside the deep forest.
Darkness will show us the way "Heic noenum pax."
Here is no peace.
The sky has darkened thirteen as
We are collected woeful around a book
Made of human flesh.
"De grandaevus antiquus mulum tristis,
Arcanas mysteria scriptum".
The books bloodwritten pages open.
"Invoco cruentus domini de daemonium"
We follow with our white eyes The cermonials proceeding.
"Heic noenum pax". Bring us the goat.
"Rex sacriticulus mortifer".
In the circle of stone coffins.
We are standing with our black robes on,
Holding the bowl with unholy water.
"Psychomantum et precor exito annos major".
"Ferus netandus sacerdos magus. Mortem animalium"

I can't change the title but I would remove the "Doom" and keep it as Metal in general since that will probably draw more people in.

Great subject that I've always wondered about but never found time to post about.

My biggest question is why are so many metal bands obsessed with Aleister Crowley?

That's something I've never been able to figure out.

Originally posted by The Sword
My biggest question is why are so many metal bands obsessed with Aleister Crowley?

That's something I've never been able to figure out.

Here is some interesting reading on that subject:

www.inplainsite.org...

reply to post by The Sword


In the music scene, most heavy metal followers are either pagan, Wiccan, or satanists of some kind... Well not most, but a noticeable percentage are. There's no conspiracy really, it's an pretty open, violent, drug fueled and alcohol soaked scene. In most cases there really isn't any religious stuff, heavy metal artists just like to stick it to Christians.

On the flip side, there is a lot of super, heavy, death metal sounding bands who are all Christian.... So it's really just about the music.

Rock n roll has always been involved with the devil... If it wasn't for Satan, Or the idea of Satan, heavy metal wouldn't exist!

Originally posted by The Sword
My biggest question is why are so many metal bands obsessed with Aleister Crowley?

That's something I've never been able to figure out.

Crowley is associated with Satan worship, and Satan is a big deal in heavy metal. So songs written by metal bands about crowley is their way of paying him som homage of sorts.

And actually Ozzy is one of the most outspoken people about his music because he's done so much to spearhead censorship laws back in the Reagan years. His music and songs about Satan were reflections on extremely difficult times in his life. Ozzy is a deist of sorts and actually considers himself kind of Christian, kind of satanic. In one of his biographies he talks about it.

Again, though, I don't think they're is an underlying conspiracy. I think there are some bands who write music about worshipping the devil, the same as there are some bands who write music about worshipping christ.

reply to post by W3RLIED2


Conspiracy or not, it's still a fascinating subject.

Thanks for clarifying this though!

You can't have heavy fast music singing about stuffed animals and sugary sweet things. Occult themes make the music sound more aggressive and authentic. Occult themes in music have been going on since the days of delta blues. These themes are way more prevalent in music today though.

I don't follow "doom" metal too much but here are some examples I can site of the top of my head with regards to metal bands.

Destroyer 666 - A Sermon to the Dead (reminds me of the Jung essay Seven Sermons to the Dead) is basically a tribute to ABRAXAS.

Anything by The Devils Blood, Watain, Inquisition, Sargeist, Beherit or Dissection. As much as the album Reinkaos is hated by Dissection fans, there is a ton of anti-cosmic magic themed songs.

Early Testament albums (The Legacy, The New Order)

It's very prevalent in all forms of metal. Very overt as well depending on where you look. Most of the bands signed to Hells Headbangers Records are very overtly occult themed.

reply to post by The Sword

My biggest question is why are so many metal bands obsessed with Aleister Crowley? That's something I've never been able to figure out.

Anything with a Satanic or "Luciferian" theme is all about non-conformity, freedom and personal power. This is the opposite of surrendering your life to God.

Some bands take it more seriously than others.

I'm not satanic, in any way.

BUT, I do love me some Iron Maiden. You'll enjoy the stage props, OP. it fits in great with your thread.



I recommend turning your speakers up to 11, leaning back in your desk chair with a beer, and enjoying the awesomeness, that is the number of the beast.

Edit, they still shred and they're all like sixty!