"The Secret Meeting that Changed Hip-hop and Destroyed a Generation"

This is a really good read. No way to check it's authenticity, but very interesting.
The long and short of it is a closed door meeting happened that encouraged rappers to glorify criminal activity in order to fill new prisons for mad cash.



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Wow. This is alarming if true, and additionally it makes a ton of sense regarding the direction which rap and hip hop took and why rappers who want to commit themselves to real issues and art don't get signed.

ETA

OP I strongly suggest putting more information in your thread so people get a sense of what they are going to be reading.

Incredible. That's some story. As the poster above said...extremely alarming if true. The thing is, I have no ammunition to deny or debunk this in any way. It seems damn solid. A true conspiracy.

Hopefully this garners some discussion on this board, as this sure the hell beats "THE ALIENS ARE INVADING!"

S&F - nice find

ETA: Don't forget to FLAG this post. This topic deserves some attention and discussion

This can easily be true, nothing in human nature surprises me anymore.
Unfortunately very difficult to prove.

Thanks for posting this!

Having grown up in the 80's listening to Public Enemy, BDP, etc and watching this happen first hand, it is of no surprise at all. So sad....

reply to post by wrdwzrd


And Schooly D and Slick Rick, yeah those were great days for rap. Though this was posted earlier in another forum I find it highly plausible given what happened to rap since the early 90's and how degraded the lyrical subject matter had become. Absolute narcissism and bling-O-mania. Sad regardless of the truth of this or not.

You could see the change straight away, when they introduced the "Explicit lyrics" label on the covers.
Started with:-
NWA
2 Live Crew
Geto Boys

to name just a few of the first.

reply to post by UKWO1Phot


Geto boys were who immediately came to my mind, its a shame to see how easily they might have been led into being so controversial, for such scandalous reasons, I'm (was ) a huge fan.

According to the comments in the link the op posted There's a youtube video with someone talking about the same situation! Anyone find it, I can't see it anywhere

I believe this scenario is true.

The days of positive, good feeling hip hop has died.

I personally don't like the new hip hop...

More of an old school type myself.

Positive and good feeling hip-hop isn't dead. Infact, I'd say there's more of it than ever; problem is, you won't find it on the radio or tv.

reply to post by Jack Squat


I had never read a hip hop magazine before because I am not really a fan of rap or hip hop, but I was bored at work once and someone had left one in the office. I started reading it and was shocked to find a huge multi page article on the illuminate and what rappers they predicted were in on it. It made it more interesting to me than if it was just music. Hip hop fans are really into conspiracies.

I wouldn't put much stake in it, but it's interesting.

Gangsta Rap was a conspiracy created by the Elites. It started on the West Coast and eventually helped charge the 1992 L.A Riots. When Tupac was asked about the riots he said "Hate to say i told you so, but i told you so."

Tupac getting shot only furthered the conspiracy and now he is a "legend" along with other dead rappers. Rap is a festering disease that spread fast and rapidly, it boosted crime, degraded women, and turned young black males against each other over material objects like money and jewels. Unfortunately this leaked into the white communities with help from Elites like "Eminem", thus creating the same effect on white people and other non-black cultures.

Music is their secret weapon, dont be fooled into thinking it just started with rap.

Originally posted by holywar666

... with help from Elites like "Eminem", thus creating the same effect on white people and other non-black cultures.

I've always personally believed Marshall's story. I'd be interested in hearing more about this if you care to share. Do you have any sources for this? (not a slight - genuine curiousity)

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DO NOT believe Marshall's story. It's very easy to do so, which is why it was so effective. It will be hard for me to prove this, as i'm sure the elites have covered their tracks. But all we have to do is look at Eminem's career to see if we can find any clues on him acting .....well.....shady.

(not in any order)

1. Proof, his best friend, gets shot and killed outside a nightclub in the music video "Like Toy Soldiers" which came out in 2004. In 2006, Proof get shot and killed outside a night club.

2. After getting signed to Interscope Records, he put out his 1st big music video "My Name is" in January of 1999. In the video, Marilyn Manson raps 10 seconds of Eminem's lines. 4 months later the Columbine Massacre occurred, where Marilyn Manson was blamed for influencing the shooters. Not only were the shooters white, they mentioned Tupac in their diaries & wore backwards baseball caps.

3. The 8 mile film drops in 2002. Eminem is somehow now an actor, even winning an Academy Award for the project.

4. "3 a.m" by Eminem. This time on a clock face creates an upside down cross. In the ending of this video, after killing a bunch of people, he blatantly raises his arms to the sky and whispers "EV-IL RISEEE" multiple times.

5. Is it a coincidence that he shares his name with a brand of candy? M&M's are eaten by kids everywhere, way before Eminem. To think this was not brought up at the Illuminati table would be ridiculous. His protege "50 Cent" is the same way in how the name represents money/currency.

6. In 50 Cent's first big video after being signed to Interscope("In Da Club"), Eminem is shown in a white lab coat behind glass observing 50 Cent rap, as if its an experiment. Thats exactly what rap is. Nothing more than an experiment, while they sit back and see how we re-act.

7. Remember when Tupac got shot 5 times and survived? Remember when 50 Cent got shot 9 times and survived? Both fabricated and not true. Tupac mostly likely never died the 2nd time around either, so that means he is alive SOMEWHERE. Eminem produced Tupac's album "Loyal to the Game" and even talked with Tupacs mother. This could easily mean Eminem and Tupac have a relationship, and could have had one for years prior.



I know this doesnt PROVE slim was part of a Hip Hip conspiracy, i'm just challenging you to question more about his involvement. Could he have been secretly trained years before going public? Could Barack Obama have done the same thing?






(p.s: try finding pictures of Eminem young. There seems to be only 1 or 2. Maybe he was in on it from the start and they had full control over him?)



Of course the only time Eminem mentions pictures from his past, he mentions the one above (In the song "We Made You")

WOW . After reading he artical I believe this meeting may have taken place.
Thanks for posing this s&f

I'm finding this more than a little hard to believe.

There are a number of reasons for the number number of people in jail in the US. The first would be the drug laws. Eighty five percent of crime is in one way or another associated with our current drug laws.

The second major contributing factor would be three strikes laws. Many many career criminals have been put behind bars for ever.

I don't think that it was an agreement between record execs and private jails. That just seems to simplistic to me.

I was JUST talking to my kids the other day about 'old school' rap. And to quote myself "not like the garbage they make now--a-days" This seems authentic, as it appears to be the way things have actually gone.

Thx OP

Out on Bail and Loyal to the Game are both songs by Tupac where he says the lyrics:

"Drop that **** Em"

" G-Unit's in the *****'in house"

Of course this is "impossible" because Tupac never knew Eminem, and G-Unit was a group made years after tupac death.

Wikipedia says:

Eminem used various unusual production techniques during the creation of this album, namely modifying the pace and pitch of Tupac's voice to better suit the beats produced.There was also various uses of the cutting and pasting of vocals to produce new words synonymous with current rap culture, such as saying "G-Unit"", "Obie Trice" and "Em" instead of "LG", the original producer of "Out On Bail"

Album wiki

Imagine if it wasnt fake, and Tupac really DID say those lines....because he isnt really dead. We just saw his hologram-like performance, seems like their having a little TOO much fun marketing off our unwillingness to fathom their such massive conspiracy. Oh well...... the poisons been injected. 1990-2012, rap music is still thriving. From the OP link, its possibly a prison/crime sort of conspiracy we got here.

Now we're getting somewhere!

I could believe this Eminem has influenced almost everybody I know in one way or another, there's only a few that don't like him.