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Originally posted by WorkingClassMan
American, British and Aussie scientists tested this stuff for years on Inisfail and other places in north Queensland because we had climate and bush similar to Vietnam.
We only found out about it in 2008.
THE Australian Army tested chemical weapons on a town which now has deaths from cancer 10 times the state average.
Military scientists sprayed the toxic defoliant Agent Orange in the jungle that is part of the water catchment area for Innisfail in Queensland's far north at the start of the Vietnam War.
The Sun-Herald last week found the site where military scientists tested Agent Orange in 1966. It is on a ridge little more 100 metres above the Johnstone River, which supplies the drinking water for Innisfail
Over one billion grams of Agent Orange, Agent Purple and Agent White were sprayed on CFB Gagetown and surrounding communities from 1956 to 1984 consisting of 3.3 million litres and kilograms of Dioxin, Picloram, 2,4-D + 2,4,5-T, and Hexachlorobenzene
Originally posted by F4guy
reply to post by burntheships
There is one huge difference between the Agent Orange sprayed in Southeast Asia and the stuff used in Canada. The stuff used in Asia was contaminated with 2,3,7,8 tetrachlorodibenzodioxin, perhaps the most toxic chemical ever created. There is no report, or other indication, that the stuff used in Canada contained any of this dioxin.
Originally posted by burntheships
Piano,
Yeah, I call it "scroomed".
And yes, we are. Hopefully though we are raising awareness.
I read today there is a huge global movement against Monsanto.
Oppostion To Monsanto Growing Worldwide
Originally posted by F4guy
reply to post by burntheships
There is one huge difference between the Agent Orange sprayed in Southeast Asia and the stuff used in Canada. The stuff used in Asia was contaminated with 2,3,7,8 tetrachlorodibenzodioxin, perhaps the most toxic chemical ever created. There is no report, or other indication, that the stuff used in Canada contained any of this dioxin.
Originally posted by dl2oneThe2nd
reply to post by F4guy
So how much stock do you have in DOW? J/k. I am no chemist, but one molecule here and there does not change the fact there are real people with real symptoms in affected areasedit on 4-4-2012 by dl2oneThe2nd because: (no reason given)
That's something that people never seem to realise - Agent Orange is, of itself, not a nice substance, but it is not particularly poisonous to humans - it was the contaminant dioxin that did "all the damage".
Of the 2 constituents, 2, 4, 5-T is no longer in use, mainly because if it is improperly manufactured then it pretty much automatically is contaminated.
2, 4-D is still in widespread use, but has a dioxin problem of its own that is apparently not monitored much - 2,7-dichlorodibenzo-p-dioxin (DCDD)
The U.S. Border Patrol has announced a 30-day delay in its plans to use the herbicide imazapyr to eradicate Carrizo cane growing along a 1.1-mile stretch of the Mexican border. Because the invasive plant can grow up to 30 feet, it provides cover for illegal border crossings. The plan to use aerial spraying sparked outrage on both sides of the border from residents and politicians concerned about health risks to citizens of Laredo, Texas and the Mexican town of Nuevo Laredo.
On a single scorched block in Villa Juarez, Sinaloa, Mexico, four young men have leukemia. Another died of the disease last spring.
The cluster of sickness may have nothing to do with the tons of toxic pesticides that flow into every water source available to the residents of this small farm town; it may be unrelated to the four nearby airstrips where farmers load planes with pesticides to spray over the surrounding fields; it may not be linked to the work that brings young men home soaked to the skin with the chemicals they apply to crops.
But while there has been no comprehensive study of the tragedy, you can search far and wide and not find a single doctor who thinks it is anything but the pesticides that are making the young men of this flat, hot valley sick.
"There is no one who works in this clinic who doesn't believe the leukemia is related to the agrochemicals," says Dr. Sonia Leon, an emergency room physician at the government hospital in Villa Juarez. During the growing season, the clinic treats between 50 and 80 cases of pesticide poisoning a week. "When I go home every night, I run away from here as fast as I can," Leon says. "But what of the people who live here? They look up, and the chemicals drift down from the planes into their eyes. They walk to the fields, and they are dusted with chemicals from the leaves. They are surrounded; they have nowhere to run."
The death of Adrian Allesquita Soto, who worked in the fields on weekends during the school year, is well known to the doctors of Villa Juarez, and so is the intolerable level of pesticide-laced filth that pervades the town. In a September 1993 analysis by a local human rights group of 100 water samples from the drainage canals that meet in Villa Juarez, 95 percent tested positive for 10 organophosphate compounds and 3 organochlorines. Of the 13 compounds, only 4 are permitted for use in Mexico today.
Originally posted by HandyDandy
reply to post by burntheships
And people still "trust" their governments.