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Originally posted by HumansEh
many of us know this already but thank you for
1) Taking the time to put it in writing.
2) Putting it so well and eloquently
Trouble is that a large percentage of people (not all) who break out of their confinement turn into the very exploiters and oppressors that they have broken free from.
Great thread though.
S&F4U
Originally posted by HumansEh
many of us know this already but thank you for
1) Taking the time to put it in writing.
2) Putting it so well and eloquently
Trouble is that a large percentage of people (not all) who break out of their confinement turn into the very exploiters and oppressors that they have broken free from.
Great thread though.
S&F4U
Originally posted by Emeraldous
Originally posted by HumansEh
many of us know this already but thank you for
1) Taking the time to put it in writing.
2) Putting it so well and eloquently
Trouble is that a large percentage of people (not all) who break out of their confinement turn into the very exploiters and oppressors that they have broken free from.
Great thread though.
S&F4U
My thoughts exactly, many thanks to both of you on being concise. Being a person who has only seen the effects of being employed by others leads me to these conclusions you both mentioned.
@MentorsRiddle
In the past we have had working seasons and the rest of the time we have found ways to be productive for ourselves and our needs. Now we are busy most of the day working and in order to create more value for our time spend the rest on studying. Strange days when we have a technical society with a surplus of work yet that work is so concentrated on individuals who work overtime and are compensated with just enough to keep them coming back to work the next day. At the same time we have individuals who are unemployed and in need of money that sometimes find underemployment an option. Strange that we find ways to make the cost of manufacturing go down but the human work goes up? It would make sense that we should be working less since productivity is through the roof. HumansEh is right we are being exploited and creating a larger exploiter class is not the answer. You can't sustain this much longer, pretty soon it will be too expensive to be alive.
I want to get an MBA, but the company I want to make will increasingly create cheaper products to the consumer. Either pay better wages or employ more people for less hours. And if it makes it this far, become a real non-profit where the money we make and the costs of employment, research and development equal each other. Call me crazy but this is what the future will look like.
I feel like making a separate thread about this because I am serious about making this happen. Thoughts?
Originally posted by LeBombDiggity
I don't have much too add here right now. The OP has given me much to think about, though.
May I say, as someone for whom English is not their principal language, that I think the OP's is the best piece of writing I have seen on ATS since I came here ?
Thank you.
Originally posted by notquiteright
reply to post by MentorsRiddle
There is some truth to what you say, but obviously, it can't work for everyone. Without the" slaves" who would run the hypothetical mini storage? If everyone could do it, it wouldn't work for anyone. Also, not all endeavors are equal. I've been studying, playing, writing, and recording music for well over 20 years. I don't watch much tv at alland don't play games. Most of my spare time goes to music. I have never made a penny from it, but I put everything I've got into it. Everytime. If I had spent this much time fixing cars or studying engineering or something, im sure the monetary reward would have been much better, but that means I would have had to do something I wasn't interested in. That's not freedom either.
Originally posted by randomname
on the mini-storage unit, you could hold fake "auctions" every month on empty units you didn't rent out by filling it with garbage and empty boxes like they do on that show storage wars.
Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
You must become more intelligent. Learn that you are trapped by your own devices and laziness.
Take the time to learn a trade, or skill to make your time more valuable. Write a book. Invest your time into researching venture capital to startup your own business.
Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
You must become more intelligent. Learn that you are trapped by your own devices and laziness.
Take the time to learn a trade, or skill to make your time more valuable. Write a book. Invest your time into researching venture capital to startup your own business.
So basically this whole thread could be summarized with the above portion of your thread included here.
Not really earth-shattering. I think everyone KNOWS this already.
How about helping the down-trodden with advise on HOW to get these skills while juggling kids and daycare, and bills, and rent/mortgage, car expenses, insurance, food bill, energy bills, all while working three jobs and doing so with NO sleep day in and day out?
NOW, that will be a thread to really "help the down-trodden".edit on 23-3-2012 by HangTheTraitors because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MentorsRiddle
reply to post by notquiteright
As I have said above, my post were for those who have never thought about things from a certain perspective.
To answer your question - in time your pressure will fade. Then you can begin. The choices we have made in life can hurt us more than anything in the world.
You must ride the course of your decisions.