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My Views On Extraterrestrials
My view, and that is a critically important preface to anything that I communicate, MY VIEW of the goings on out there is that Cosmic Evolution including Biological Evolution has produced trillions of planets conducive to life as we know it and our universe has been around for 12 billion years. Life is everywhere out there in trillions of forms including very advanced evolutionary strings that have had millions or billions of years to develop the technologies to do star travel, that is to venture outside their particular solar system. I cannot know but I would venture to speculate, and believe, that there are millions or more star-travelers in our universe. And, while passing on that I do think and believe in multiple universes. So that is my interpretation of that side of the coin.
I have been out there alone in the forests at night at the age of three, with the confidence and faith that whatever was out there would recognize a fellow spirit and would take care of me. I build my own rafts and river rafted alone at the age of five. I have immersed myself in nature; I have explored and surrendered to whatever was there. I became super sensitive to the goings on out there and, as you will learn, brilliant in my methods of observation especially in the aviation and space environment. I worked very hard at catching and experiencing all of it and expressing it to others. It was a privilege to have the amounts of time that I was given in aircraft and spacecraft and did my best to be to be a true witness to the world.
Nothing that I ever witnessed or observed in any situation leads me to think or belief that an extraterrestrial vehicle or being was in my presence. I prayed for them to come and get me, but they have not, yet. No evidence presented to me by other astronauts or others has lead me to think or believe that we have been visited here on earth. That is also true of all my observations taken during STS-80. I will present all my observational methodologies, particularly aviation and space at MUFON. I will present the observations that I made and MY INTERPRETATION of these findings. No stretch of the imagination could lead ME to interpret the events of STS-80 as being a visitation from out there. Unfortunately most of the STS-80 videos on youtube.com are not the ones that I photographed. I don't know how someone created them, but it was neither me nor mine.
Bottom line: My personal interpretation of the cosmic goings-on is that there are trillions of life forms out there and millions or many more of them are so advanced as to be travelling outside their home solar system. My personal immersion in the cosmos and all of the empirical evidence brought to me by others leads me to think that we have not been visited by extraterrestrial vehicles or beings here on earth.
Story Musgrave
Originally posted by ILikeStars
Dialogue and professional opinion included:
James Oberg at NASA and all the other pundits at NASA would love you to believe that these are all ice crystals and space junk and debris, Quite frankly, if there was that much debris, in sheer number of shooting stars, flying around in close proximity to the space shuttle and the Mir space station, it would be not safe to put craft up into space. A piece of rock just a few millimeters across traveling in the opposite direction of the space shuttle would rip through the entire structure of the space shuttle and cause a fatal accident.
Originally posted by game over man
reply to post by JimOberg
This is a great argument, so are all the ice particles and comets that common around NASA space craft? Is it truly dangerous?
15 Q: Does NASA view these reports seriously?
A: For safety reasons, at the very least, NASA flight controllers do indeed pay attention, and have been doing so for decades. John Glenn’s report of ‘fireflies’ was closely examined as an indicator of how the cooling system – an externally-mounted ‘flash evaporator’ that used water to cool the capsule – may have been malfunctioning. On Apollo-13, observations of ice particles out the window helped quickly characterize the severity of the cryogenic tank explosion. During Apollo missions, reports and images of what came to be humorously called ‘moon pigeons’ provided clues to the status of critical external components such as heat shields and thermal blankets. A Skylab mission was nearly aborted with a rescue flight when ‘snow’ showed that a thruster was leaking precious fuel. A critical international space rendezvous in 1995 was nearly cancelled because of excessive fuel leaks, observed as ice swarms outside the STS-63 window. Structural pieces of shuttle missions have been observed and closely examined by camera zoom, but the most serious shuttle space failure, the ‘Columbia’ disaster, missed a chance to be forewarned when a hunk of the vital heat shield drifted away but was NOT observed by eyeball or camera. For reasons such as these, strange-looking outside stuff gets the immediate attention of Mission Control – and all in public.
42: Q: How could this degree of dandruff be tolerated, purely from a collision safety point of view?
A: Anything solid, coming off a space vehicle, has a very low relative speed, so it wouldn’t be a threat to puncture the hull. If it comes around in orbit and does make recontact, it would probably bounce off harmlessly.
Originally posted by JimOberg
Who says this is a 'professional' opinion? The guy's name isn't even given, much less any evidence to support any 'professional' status. Who was he?
Originally posted by ILikeStars
My only intention was to provide this thread with the footage that the OP mentioned many times in the introduction.
From: "Story Musgrave" To:
Originally posted by zatara
As we all know shuttle astronauts have reported many encounters with unidentified flying objects over the various shuttle missions ...
What shuttle astronauts reported such encounters? And I'm not counting Cady Coleman and her clumsy joke. Who else -- seriously? Names, please.
Originally posted by ILikeStars
reply to post by The Shrike
The STS-80 anomalies:
Allegedly unedited original footage:
footage with music, from Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs:
Dialogue and professional opinion included:
Originally posted by The Shrike
He was interviewed at his home, I'm assuming, and some of the footage from STS-80 was shown on his big-screen TV. As he watched, he made comments that are not your average NASA spokepersons' comments. While he does say "...whether it's a washer, debris, ice particle ..." he admits he doesn't know as opposed to, yeah, it is a washer, debris, ice particle.