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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
Originally posted by beezzer
Let me get this straight.
If Congress okays a military action, but the international community says no; then we DON'T go???
actually, it reads the other way around i believe. according to panetta, if the international community says yes and congress says no, that it's okay to still go to war.
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
actually, it reads the other way around i believe. according to panetta, if the international community says yes and congress says no, that it's okay to still go to war.
Originally posted by robhines
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
actually, it reads the other way around i believe. according to panetta, if the international community says yes and congress says no, that it's okay to still go to war.
The way I saw it was he was trying to get support from the UN and/or NATO first, then he'd go back and ask congress if they get support, so that isn't really breaking any rule is it? (and thanks kosmicjack.)
But I can finally see what you're all thinking now, that they'll just go ahead anyway if they get that support before asking congress. Just seems weird that so many of you assume that's what'll happen?edit on 8-3-2012 by robhines because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
i'm looking at it in the context that he doesn't need to ask congress first, kind of like giving them the middle finger on this issue, which he can do in this case. i normally wouldn't have a problem with that, if we lived in a utopian world and pigs could fly.
Originally posted by Danbones
the fastest way to get rid of tyrants is to make them act like tyrants
Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by robhines
world health org
world bank
UN
interpol
world trade org
codex alimenarious
G20
G8
global corporations
etc
its all right there in the open and has been for a while.
one just has to look
Originally posted by Wolf321
The problem isn't so much the War Powers Act, but the lack of true leadership by the persons empowered by the War Powers Act.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by beezzer
If Obama and Panetta go down this road Congress should pass legislation that freezes the Pentagons budget and forces the Pentagon to seek congressional approval of funds for each and every action.
The President can then exercise his Constitutional Authority as commander in Chief and can issue all the orders he wants. Congress can exercise their Constitutional Authority by refusing to fund those orders.
Originally posted by Lord Jules
While holder is taking the fall for fast and furious, Panetta seems to be softening the blow by taking the fall for Libya. No way Panetta is this dumb, he could have just said 'of course congress comes first' this was an intentional move to show just how psychotic they are for power and their one world order.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by beezzer
To expensive to be honest... The starch in their shirts, which is the only thing holding them upright, is much cheaper.
I am curious if either Obama / Cabinet or Congress fails to act if the people would have a right to file a legal challenge to have people removed from office.