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There are many high level Mormons in the Regan Administration, and many who serve in the NSA, CIA and FBI.
After all, it is widely known that Mormons have had a disproportionate representation in the CIA and FBI through the years, and that J. Edgar Hoover started the FBI with Mormon agents. They also have a disproportionate representation in the US Congress - five Mormon senators and 12 representatives - partly because of the concentration of Mormons in the Western US.
Time Magazine, August 4, 1997, has an article titled "Kingdom Come" by David Van Biema (in fact, the entire magazine issue is about the Mormon Church, titled 'Mormons, Inc.: The secrets of America's most prosperous religion')
On page 52 I read, "The FBI and CIA, drawn by a seemingly incorruptible rectitude, have instituted Mormon-recruiting plans."
Did you know, if you are rich enough, you can legally make your child disappear? There are agencies that will come in the middle of the night and kidnap your child. It happens every night, there are children that will awake to strangers at the foot of their bed tonight. This is highly traumatic for kids, they will remember it clearly for the rest of their lives.
These places exist in all 50 states, there are hundreds of them. It is a billion-dollar industry, corporate America is involved, as well as some big politicians (Romney, both Bush's, Santorum). At any given time there are 10,000-100,000 kids locked in programs designed to "break" them.
Michigan's Governor George Romney was very much interested in implementing mind control of the masses. He wanted to bring the Satanic rituals of child abuse that were proliferating in the Catholic Church into the Mormon church. He wanted a robotic society growing up within the Mormon church so that they would give more money to the NWO effort.
One of the things that he instructed me to do was to attend the Muskegon Catholic Central High School -- which was very much involved in this ClA/Jesuit merger of mind control information. Through implementation of trauma in the school system, a person such as myself would photographically record whatever I was taught. I got all A's but I didn't gain any information I could use. I couldn't think to use anything that I had learned, but I was recording facts and that's what they were interested in.
......Governor Romney was also interested in an early version of the Global Education 2000 Program (Outcome-Based Education) that's infiltrated our school system It was designed to increase our children's learning capacity while decreasing their ability to critically analyze. As a result, the Michigan education system ranked first in the nation for many years but the devastation to the children was horrible.
Originally posted by stirling
Have you ever read the Pearl of Great Price?
Companion book to the book of Mormon.
Originally posted by MemoryShock
The Mormon religion is a very strict upbringing and relies on cult like peer pressure to insure that Mormons not only buy into the religion but shun others who are not Mormon in their own personal social circles. I grew up in the religion so I can say this from subjective experience. I seriously could not really socialize outside of that religion until my later teenage years when I could finally rebel and refuse church.
Originally posted by NoWorldOrder12
I must say bravo. This is a well written and researched thread.
Ill have to keep an eye out for more evidence of this. I am currently watching my father's boss closely. He is a devoted member of the Mormon Church and is VERY influential in the local politics where i live. I have a theory about TPTB using the Mormon Church as puppets to do their dirty work and will definitely factor in your Romney/Mind Control theories.
There are many high level Mormons in the Regan Administration, and many who serve in the NSA, CIA and FBI.
After all, it is widely known that Mormons have had a disproportionate representation in the CIA and FBI through the years, and that J. Edgar Hoover started the FBI with Mormon agents. They also have a disproportionate representation in the US Congress - five Mormon senators and 12 representatives - partly because of the concentration of Mormons in the Western US.
So with no hearings scheduled on these cults anytime soon in the Senate Judiciary Committee, law enforcement is not pressed to do its job.
Time Magazine, August 4, 1997, has an article titled "Kingdom Come" by David Van Biema (in fact, the entire magazine issue is about the Mormon Church, titled 'Mormons, Inc.: The secrets of America's most prosperous religion'
On page 52 I read, "The FBI and CIA, drawn by a seemingly incorruptible rectitude, have instituted Mormon-recruiting plans." )
The Mormon religion is a very strict upbringing and relies on cult like peer pressure to insure that Mormons not only buy into the religion but shun others who are not Mormon in their own personal social circles.
I grew up in the religion so I can say this from subjective experience. I seriously could not really socialize outside of that religion until my later teenage years when I could finally rebel and refuse church.
if the FBI was founded with Mormons, then there is a possibility that their presence in the NSA when the Star Wars defense program was approved during the Reagan administration indicates knowledge of some of the suspiced remote influence of human behavior attributed to satellite/cellular technology by those who are looking into the remote control mind control topics.
Did you know, if you are rich enough, you can legally make your child disappear? There are agencies that will come in the middle of the night and kidnap your child. It happens every night, there are children that will awake to strangers at the foot of their bed tonight. This is highly traumatic for kids, they will remember it clearly for the rest of their lives.
These places exist in all 50 states, there are hundreds of them. It is a billion-dollar industry, corporate America is involved, as well as some big politicians (Romney, both Bush's, Santorum). At any given time there are 10,000-100,000 kids locked in programs designed to "break" them.
I did multiple searches with various last names so the above is really a left field inference from me but it does show that the Romney name has many associations in the Behavioral sciences and even more interesting, the third link from the top contains the name "Kimball"...which happens to be the last name of the twelfth President of the Mormon church. Are the Romneys and Kimball in the above search the two people I am referencing? No. Does it demonstrate potential interest from both families in human behavior? Yes.
At the very least, it can be stated that Romney has some questionable associations and that the Mormon church has some interesting associations regarding the topic.
Is there enough there for me to reasonably consider the possibility that the theory has possible roots in reality? Combined with my personal experiences and history, I would say yes.
At the very least, it is a beginning towards the consideration of why our leaders typically come from very affluent backgrounds and what they could possibly do with all of the money that they earn through personal ventures and where the taxpayers money gets allocated if not for public education, welfare, et cetera.
Originally posted by ANNED
Many Mormons(LDS) get in the NSA, CIA and FBI because they don't use drugs or drink that excludes many of the problem with getting high security clearance and holding that clearance.
You would likely find a higher then normal number of Mormons working at area 51 for that same reason.
As for Mormon parents being strict and the Behavioral Modification that is BS and this misinformation is mostly caused by stories about those weird fake Mormon cults you hear about on the news..
Also the Mormon church only wants new members that want to be Mormons
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
First off, I want you to know that I have read through everything in your thread.
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
There are many high level Mormons in the Regan Administration, and many who serve in the NSA, CIA and FBI.
The very first source you list is from a blog post by a Mormon. Why is this important? Because it adds nothing to your argument.
Better Source
Bridge-building between Mormons and the conservative movement helps explain the Reagan administration’s push to hire many Mormons into the White House - which further cemented the alliance. That bond continues to lure Mormons to D.C.
The second source you cite is a ranting, scathing epitaph against the Mormon Church from a clearly biased individual.
Why the vitriol? While Suzan Mazur raises some interesting questions, she provides nothing but speculation. And again, she only suggests that a disproportionate amount of Mormons serve in the various areas of the government, without giving specific statistics. In fact, the only specific statistic she throws out there is that 17 Mormons combined serve in the House and Senate.
I tend to think that those have more to do with this than anything else, especially some absurd claim of ties to mind control.
Originally posted by Judge_Holden
The Mormon Church has no required or specified form of upbringing.
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Your claim that the Mormon Church relies on a “cult like pressure” is out of line.
The few Mormons I associated with, however, acted like regular teenagers and never discriminated in who they associated with.
if the FBI was founded with Mormons, then there is a possibility that their presence in the NSA when the Star Wars defense program was approved during the Reagan administration indicates knowledge of some of the suspiced remote influence of human behavior attributed to satellite/cellular technology by those who are looking into the remote control mind control topics.
This is a loaded, contrived, and completely absurd claim. Everything you have highlighted here is off-the-wall crazy.
The source you quote in regards to Romney's father is probably the least credible one you’ve used. This ridiculous paragraph is from an ebook you found online, one with no references and no quotes. The individual writing it does not seem the slightest bit qualified to take on the subject they have, and every bit I read I did so with a grimace on my face—no wonder it was never published. It is un-academic, un-believable, and the information the author uses seems to have been pulled from the air. In other words, it is completely unreliable drivel.
What you fail to mention upon presenting this source is that Romney himself is not directly associated with any of the groups or alternative schools listed. Instead, he has individuals working for him who have had known ties. Now, based on the descriptions of these pesky little camps and schools, I could not agree more that Romney has no business associating with people who have such ties. However, it does not make Romney guilty;