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Originally posted by rstregooski
Alright, folks.. I've gotten quite sick of everyone who states that they like Ron Paul except for his "crazy" foreign policy stance.. These same people are beating their damn war drums and refuse to look at the history of American Interventionism, whether it be CIA, SF, our globalist bureaucracy, or whatever..
Originally posted by redrose123
reply to post by ownbestenemy
The fact that you are calling Ron Paul an isolationist proves you are buying MSM propaganda. I like him but he can't win. I like he but he doesn't want to start WWIII. I like him but he has crazy ideas about end the FED. Like there is a choice. Ron Paul or who. There isn't a who.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by rstregooski
Alright, folks.. I've gotten quite sick of everyone who states that they like Ron Paul except for his "crazy" foreign policy stance.. These same people are beating their damn war drums and refuse to look at the history of American Interventionism, whether it be CIA, SF, our globalist bureaucracy, or whatever..
I beg to differ! But continue your broad strokes. I would like us to become much less involved in foreign affairs and close down nearly every base save about 4 (Germany, Japan, England and one in the Middle East); yet I cannot fathom the complete isolationism of Ron Paul.
So no, those that dislike and think his foreign policy is extreme don't all sit around a camp fire singing war songs hoping we set off for war once again.
Originally posted by Res Ipsa
You sir are painting with the big brush now........Ron Paul's "complete isolationism" That is simply not true.
That video made me mad as hell because what it really showed is that too many of my Countrymen are still large ignorant peasant sluts. (Garrison Kelior phrase) but it conveys my strong sentiment without violating ATS rules...I hope.
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Tell you what , go get a DICTIONARY and Look Up 2 WORDS.........
" Isolationist " and "Noninterventionalist " Ron Paul could be Described as One of Them , but Not the First...............
Originally posted by rstregooski
Alright, folks.. I've gotten quite sick of everyone who states that they like Ron Paul except for his "crazy" foreign policy stance.. These same people are beating their damn war drums and refuse to look at the history of American Interventionism, whether it be CIA, SF, our globalist bureaucracy, or whatever..
In my opinion the biggest deception of all is that "THEY" hate us because of our "freedom". We're just so damn free over here that they hate the hell out of us because they're simply jealous. "I'll buy that for a dollar"...
edit on 26-2-2012 by rstregooski because: beer
Other than that how is it not isolationist? Constitutional authority of going to war is isolationist in nature (which I am sorry you took to be a bad thing), but he needs to expand his policy to shake off the very persistent notion that I presented. What does he want to do? Tell us, don't make me go digging through well thought-out copy on a website. Focus your arguments and stop rambling, etc. (you/your refers to Ron Paul).
Thank goodness most of my generation and the newer generation pretty much ditch TV in favor of the internet. I have some hope for the future.... albeit not too much.
Originally posted by rstregooski
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Other than that how is it not isolationist? Constitutional authority of going to war is isolationist in nature (which I am sorry you took to be a bad thing), but he needs to expand his policy to shake off the very persistent notion that I presented. What does he want to do? Tell us, don't make me go digging through well thought-out copy on a website. Focus your arguments and stop rambling, etc. (you/your refers to Ron Paul).
Of everything we're involved in today, ask yourself why we're not going after North Korea and the oppressive government imposed on the people. Of course war has many agendas, but what do you desire, exactly? Isolation is a far cry from non-intervention. We just overthrew Libya and they then installed the crazy Sharia Law. How has that worked out for your ideololgy?
You hardly know my ideology other than the minute portion I have explained here. One, I oppose many of the military actions we seem to want to engage in, that portion of Ron Paul's stance doesn't bother me. What I want to know is when something sudden explodes in the world, how is President Paul going to respond to a threat to a strategic sphere of influence of the United States?
Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Being the Only GOP Candidate who actually Served in the Military and did a Tour in Viet Nam as a active duty Air Force Flight Surgeon, I am sure Ron Paul , if faced with a situation as you describe , would know Exactally what to do as President . Question the Intel his Military Advisors give him , then Decide if any Actions need to be taken . What would make you Think anything Otherwise ?......
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by Res Ipsa
You sir are painting with the big brush now........Ron Paul's "complete isolationism" That is simply not true.
That video made me mad as hell because what it really showed is that too many of my Countrymen are still large ignorant peasant sluts. (Garrison Kelior phrase) but it conveys my strong sentiment without violating ATS rules...I hope.
They are ignorant to whom? You? I get it, we all need to step lock stock in the Ron Paul thinking to be enlightened. And, next time, put it in quotes that way you can convey it (at least that is what I would do.) But you are right, isolationist is a bit of strong word and like I said before -- most of his policies are not all that bad but he really needs to get the word out if wishes to change peoples' minds about where he stands.