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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by sitchin
They will not be retaking any part of the North East.
Even though we definately have more in common with our Scots neighbours than our Southern compatriots we are still very much English.
We will end up with a United Kingdom again, but the seat of power will be in Edinburgh
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by bigyin
A generous offer but.....
We will end up with a United Kingdom again, but the seat of power will be in Edinburgh
.....we swap our London based masters for Edinburgh based ones?
I suspect North East England would remain as disenfranchised and marginalised as ever.
Do you honestly think independant Scotish poliitics will be free of the corruption and egotistical carearists that Westminster is riddled with?
Many political observers, amongst them Scots, believe Scottish politics to be even more corrupt than Westminster and dominated by it's own old boys network.
As much as that would not surprise me I really don't have enough knowledge about it to give an opinion.
Originally posted by Silk
I intend to bring this up on the politics show tomorrow night - anyone care to come on ? Id like as diverse a group of opinions as I can have. Contact details will be in the thread.
PM me if you would like details as well
Corruption is every where,i feel it will be easier to see in a small country than the corporate Eton boys down south who can hide their greed and corruption more easily.
Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by clanger
Corruption is every where,i feel it will be easier to see in a small country than the corporate Eton boys down south who can hide their greed and corruption more easily.
You've really hit the nail on the head as to why I am uncertain about independence being a good thing for Scotland right now....the corruption running rampant through our political and legal classes. By virtue of our small population our 'old boy network' is by any measure tighter than anything going on down south.
There are particular problems with our civil courts, dodgy lawyers defrauding clients (aided and abetted by the courts) and a severe lack of political or legal will to do anything about it. (Our Justice Minister is himself a solicitor after all). Until that is recognised and dealt with I have as little trust in tptb in Scotland as I have in those of Westminster or Europe.
A Diary of Injustice in Scotland
Scotland's Bent Judges.com
As Ive said before people will find some/any reason to justify their decision whether for or against the 40+ years of propaganda spouted by the bbc/media/unionist mps has done its job!!!!
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by clanger
As Ive said before people will find some/any reason to justify their decision whether for or against the 40+ years of propaganda spouted by the bbc/media/unionist mps has done its job!!!!
And if the vote goes against the nationalists that will be the claim won't it....London based MSM stifled debate and promoted the Unionist cause.
It's exactly the same arguement I used when the vote went against a regional Northern Assembly.
Seems to me that no matter what both Scotland and England are going to be governed by self-promoting and self-advancing carear politcians and their masters whose only purposes are self gain and the promotion of their private agendas regardless of the will or well being of the electorate.
I fully understand your sentiments and desire for independence, but ultimately I think it'll be irrelevant until we completely change our current unrepresentative and unaccountable electoral system and replace it with something that gives the people a real say in the running of this island.
So basically your saying you prefer the corrupt southern Eton toffs to rip you off rather than the masonic mob up here?
hardly a good reason.
As Ive said before people will find some/any reason to justify their decision whether for or against the 40+ years of propaganda spouted by the bbc/media/unionist mps has done its job!!!!