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On 11/11/11, a freemason with a letter of authority from the City of New Westminster, B.C. took a knife and cut the lines of the HMS Pacific Express. Our sister ship and neighbor had been attacked in broad daylight by the owner of the Marina (Sather Boat Works) in full view of everyone.
This is really ironic that a known freemason decided that remeberence day would be the day war was declared upon the children as the ex-warship WWII HMS Pacific Express Class Sub-Chaser was cut loose endangering everyone including the Alex Fraser Bridge had she gone down river! Our story will continue after the video.
On 11/11/11, a freemason with a letter of authority from the City of New Westminster, B.C. took a knife and cut the lines of the HMS Pacific Express. Our sister ship and neighbor had been attacked in broad daylight by the owner of the Marina (Sather Boat Works) in full view of everyone.
Now this action directly endangered not only the adults, but the youth that were there.
I know alot of the masons here have talked about how masons are taught to be better men, and to live as an example.
At 11/11/2011 the entire free world stopped what they were doing for at least two minutes and meditated upon war and freedom, life and death, honor and valor.
If only we had footage or proof.
...co-ordinated this attack against these unarmed children and then denied them all emergency services while they fought for their very lives.
Originally posted by KingAtlas
I have lost respect for freemasonry.
I did. I found no corroborating evidence that would show that he's a member of any lodge in New Westminster. He might be a member. He might not. Either way, what does his membership have to do with the actions that happened that day?
Originally posted by KingAtlas
*add* It's a first hand account of their own experiences, you expect them to photograph everyone that comes to the door, paranoid much? You want freemason information about the citizen, go look it up, you guys are freemasons.
You are the only one making such a claim.
yes I apologize, once again, it is proven that all masons are perfect individuals.
Again, nobody here said anything remotely like that.
If anyone says anything abotu masons they deserve to be hung.
To be honest, I'm more interested in why they would bother posting that on the site. What would Milne's membership in Freemasonry have to do with any of the other actions described in the account?
I was posting what it said on the site.
They didn't just make up the fact he was a mason, why would they?
As well you shouldn't. And you shouldn't take anything Freemason related as guilty either. Freemasons are men. Nothing more, nothing less. Some are good, some are bad. Some are smart, some are stupid. You're the one who seems hell-bent on making generalizations here...
I will no longer take anything freemason related as innocent.
Not at all. If Ken Milne committed a crime, he should be charged in a court of law. If he's found guilty in a court of law, and if the charge was a felony, he would most likely be stripped of his Masonic membership if he had one. We don't want felons in our ranks, so we kick them out. We don't protect the guilty.
Protect your brother, I see.
Nobody's saying what he did was right, either. We're not defending him. All we have is one side of the case, though. Some of us are not quick to judge without knowing the whole story, and we're certainly not getting the whole story from the link you provided.
I think that waht people say about freemasons must be true now, you guys just protect your own no matter what.
Not even one of you mention that what he did was wrong.
You just protect you fellow member, that is disgusting.
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Not at all. Regardless of the outcome of said cases, his own site shows that his relationship with the city of New Westminster is acrimonious and adversarial. He blames the city for making his landlord do something. That's just a statement of fact, without any judgement attached to it on my part. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, I AM saying where he puts the blame, and I don't think you'd disagree with that assessment.
Originally posted by KingAtlas
Oh yes, bring up the cases against him, without bringing up the fact they were throw out of court, or found to be unsubstantiated.
Talk about not bringing all the facts, just one side, the same thing you accuse me of....
Originally posted by KingAtlas
*add* It's a first hand account of their own experiences, you expect them to photograph everyone that comes to the door, paranoid much?
You want freemason information about the citizen, go look it up, you guys are freemasons.
No, wait you guys are perfect, and the rest of us are scum, i forgot...yes I apologize, once again, it is proven that all masons are perfect individuals...If anyone says anything abotu masons they deserve to be hung.
I don't care... I really have begun disliking freemasons now.
Honestly, the way you guys behave here sometimes is decent, then you guys act like a bunch of children.
I was posting what it said on the site.
They didn't just make up the fact he was a mason, why would they?
Protect your brother, I see.
Obviously it is sentationalised, if you were in that encounter, in that context, would you be as upset.
I am upset. I don't care.
I think that waht people say about freemasons must be true now, you guys just protect your own no matter what.
Not even one of you mention that what he did was wrong.
You just protect you fellow member, that is disgusting.
I can't express my feelings here. If I ever meet a freemason in real life I will treat him with distain now, becaus of you guys.