UFO Technology: Ideas concerning Nazi UFO's (This could be it!)

reply to post by mrnotobc


can you let us in on your knowledge?

Very nice presentation!

Sounds about right to me.

I think it would be hard even for physacists to debunk these theories.

Ive always thaught that the unverse was held in place by electromagnetic/static forces, I mean im no genius but how does the earths spinning hold us in place when it should be throwing us off? And if we can leave our orbit with a small space craft, and stay in orbit, how much gravity pull can earth or our neighboring planets really have?

I mean its gotta say something when average people can controdict what expert physacists have been telling us all these years about the laws of our universe.

Take it for what you will but the entire Nazi saucer story is a crock that was borne from a magazine article in the late 1940's (excluding the infamous wartime "Foo" sightings which have a typical mundane explanation all their own).

The evolution of the Nazi saucer story is easily traced with a small effort and has clearly been periodically re-imagined and embellished by various hack authors trying to cash in on the UFO phenomena over the years. The current bloated mishmash fairy-tale of Viktor Schauberger's repulsine to the Vrill story onto Die Glock and red mercury supplemented with laughably fraudulent "technical drawings" is nothing more than an organized scam to sell books and reinforce some people's misplaced belief in the absurd.

I became interested in the story some years ago, have done a fair amount of research into the origins of the story and have been met with the typical result that looking too closely at any of the high profile UFO cases inevitably brings, disappointment and evidence of fraud.

I have the good fortune of having some advantage on the subject as I spent some time studying aviation engineering in school, held a Private Pilot Certificate for some years until I could no longer afford the hobby in the 90's and I am intimately familiar with the history and technology of aviation in the second world war, specifically the Reichsluftfahrtministerium and Luftwaffe.

If anyone is interested in the facts and evidence, I have a rather extensive file on the subject and will gladly provide whatever documents and links are pertinent to their particular interest.

There is a lot of information available on the subject, unfortunately it doesn't tell the story that many of the desperate to believe are looking for and tends to get curiously overlooked.

Personally, as much as I would love for it to be true I have no interest in being played for a sucker by being told that antiquated water turbines are exotic power sources or old water cooler tower stands are test stands for flying saucers.

Remember sports fans, Caveat emptor

I am not on the supporting side of the UFO'ers. Neither do I have anything against them. But this thread made me remember some old journals about German Flying Disks, and how Soviets captured the technology and tested it out on their airbase in Spitsbergen (Svalbard) I looked into the vast depths of the net and found a photo/CG? image of a MiG-15 escorting said flying disk. I do hope it would be on topic enough. Perhaps flying disks are some dead-end in aerodynamic technology that the Reich and the CCCP tested before coming to a conclusion that planes would be cheaper and easier to manufacture.

Here's the actual image, enjoy my humble two kopeks!

reply to post by RumET


That's CGI.
The Russians didn't get their hands on it.

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


Sorry, the first mentioning of the Nazi UFOs was in the NYT, December 14, 1944.
We also have the testimonies from Andreas Epp and Walther Schauberger, son of Viktor Schauberger.

yes this is it!

Proof that you think you've proven something.

Next time try less ridiculous misleading titles to try and maintain some sort of believability to this forum, thx.

reply to post by circuitsports


The title of this thread isn't misleading.
Your attempt to derail this thread has failed.

Die Glocke never flew. The iridescent colors that people report seeing, are not related to the discharge of electrons in the atmosphere, coming in contact with the electromagnetic field. They are simply seeing Uranus in the evening sky. Further more, if this technology was real, it would now be over 50 years old. I would think that we would have come further than that by now. www.stealthskater.com...
video.google.com.au...
(and for what's it's worth) www.ufo-blogger.com...
Additionally, people that claim to see the TR-3B (with a central glowing orb of reddish colored light) are actually seeing the space station, when the Sun reflects off of it's solar panels.
I'm glad to put all of this to rest (with as much sarcasm as I could find).
SnF OP

The truth IS out there.
And some people are being brave enough (to say enough is enough) to slip out bits and pieces to the public.

This is all very interesting, but I do'nt much care to discuss technicalities on a device I already knows exists. I don't care how it works. I want to know why it exists and for what purpose?. I love regenstorms posts. And I saw the explosion from that brainwashed (I'll assume) american german.

I understand it's not the topic of this thread, but I'd rather discuss the implication of this device with the political movements of the war, and the degradation of world living slandered after the war and it's continuous decline.

The Nazi UFO brings up interesting questions:

Why is it suppressed?

If they had these, how did they lose the war?

Did they lose the war?

With the above thought, how does this tie in with the illuminati?

Why don't people want us to know about Nazi advancements and the fact that they invented almost everything?

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Personally, I've always liked the idea that the Nazi's won the war, created advanced technology, allied remnants stole time machine, went back in time to win the war: Created alternate Earth where we now reside. If you study the documentaries and what everyone says about the fierce fighting capabilities and ingenuities of the Germans. It's hard to believe they actually lost the war, when during most of it they literally won battle after battle being outnumbered 10 to 1. Even last night I was watching the eye witness testimonies on Netflix of the panzers whupping the _ _ _ of the sherman tank crews. The only people that survived, where the ones taken prisoner.

Originally posted by BigNOIDindaHouse
Pfffff, just watched the 1st video...
By the op´s "location" (Großdeutsches Reich) I almost could tell where this was heading.

This is pure neoNazi propagada, disguised as scientific elaboration and "research" fitting the disgusting dreams of an upcoming Endsieg by, let's say playing the last card - die Wunderwaffen ...

just ridiculous. the whole concept of the "black sun" being the symbol for "good in man" is just disgusting.

OP, Du beleidigst jeglichen Intellekt. Ich bezweifle, daß selbst DU so blöd sein kannst, das Grundwesen der Naziherrschaft nicht verstanden zu haben. KOMM MAL KLAR DU VOGEL!

The complete theory of the Vril-Discs, the ongoing southpole-based nazi-guerilla and so on is based on very few incidents, questionable proofs (photos, technical drawings etc.) and bottomline:

Just awful, romantic dreams of the reestablishment of the 4th reich. No society anyone would like to live in!

Thank you, couldn't have said it better and your post is all that needs to be said on this subject.

reply to post by Regenstorm


You're basically talking about lifter tech which doesn't work (all that well). Even I can attract or repel anything from about 150mm away (6 inches away) with anything using a few well positioned electrons. Took that and my kit to academics years ago and got nowhere except for the repulsion stuff which they quite liked and it makes for a good party trick in that it attracts women. So it is useful tech

If the bell story is real and I have real doubts about the whole thing, my best guess is that they "focused" electrons so that they became more "certain" and when you do that, weird sh1t starts to happen. People are beginning to notice the effect in semiconductors and plasmas nowadays.

reply to post by Regenstorm


Yes, Victor Schauberger was a genius.

reply to post by Regenstorm


What do you think of Andreas Epps UFO sighting? Can you post his flying saucer photos taken with his Lietz camera during WW2? Epps two photos, are two of the best photos of a flying saucer that I have ever seen.

Surely.... his flying saucer sighting, spurned him on into designing his own version of a flying saucer.

Can you tell me what Epp said too you when you met him? I'am sure it was about flying saucers.

Can you give us an English translation of Epps video interview? I haven't watched it yet; but I'm planing to in the near future.


Thanks,

Erno86

I have always kept the thought in the bakc of my head that maybe all the UFOs we see are in fact just man made technologies that are top secret, that could have very well been captured during the fall of germany. In fact this could have been an addition to the reason for project paperclip , but kept under the radar. The tech that these crafts use could use some basic theorys that we have overlooked becuase main stream science has had no major break throughs with it. Once again we could be oblivious to the obvious.

Great post!

The biggest problem with any Nazi flying saucer story is that in general, if an army develops a particularly effective weapon they usually use it. After all, why rely on clunky old jets or infantry when you can swoop in with a flying saucer and bring an enemy to their knees? Why hold back? They're usually not thinking, "This is a great weapon, but let's hold it back and keep it secret until we really, really need it."

The U.S. could certainly have used some good flying saucers in Vietnam. Or maybe when they went to rescue the Iranian hostages in 1979. Or maybe even against the terrorists on 9/11. But they were nowhere to be seen.

I thought i would add to this topic with a short picture video , on 1 of my photos i took while around jasper national park i came across something odd in a photo which looks to be some kind of energy above the object. I did not know that i had captured this of my camera till i thought i had a spec of dust on my computer screen , well that was not the case , zoomed in on the photo and something odd over top of it.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by DerVerboten


Your photo link of the halfway sunken Sherman tank was the result of a U.S./ Japanese engagement on some Pacific atoll during WW2.

Try to link-up PBS's documentary on Hitler's quest for art treasures during WW2, and then you can get an idea how Der Fuhrer was a cold, ruthless, evil man spawned from Hell.

reply to post by Regenstorm


Good stuff. But you might want to check out the book 'Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion' by Paul LaViolette, which basically says the same thing. Your videos are new though.

From the Movies

of the Nazi Ufo Saucer Vril Disks

The Day the Earth Stood Still



Forbidden planet
United Planets Cruiser C-57d Flying Saucer


and through the Comics Vril German Saucer Candidates or Alien UFOS ?

Buck Rodgers 1938 Comic


Before Roswell 1946 Flying Saucer


Spirit September 1947


Fate Magazine Spring 1948






America's Own UFO...


This has Got my Attention !

Winged Comics 1950


Because of this not saying it was actually build but it was thought of and designed



Lenticular Reentry Vehicle
en.wikipedia.org...

The Lenticular Reentry Vehicle (LRV), according to a November 2000 Popular Mechanics cover story[1], was an experimental nuclear warhead delivery system under development during the Cold War by defense contractor North American Aviation, managed out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. The project was classified as secret in 1962 and cleared for public release December 28, 1999.[2] Its declassified technical report had been compiled by R. J. Oberto, Los Angeles Division of North American Aviation. His report described the LRV as an offensive weapons system. Popular Mechanics obtained information on the LRV from a Freedom of Information Act request after documents describing the project were declassified in 1999.

military.com America war machines LRV
www.military.com...

LRV PDF Unclassified Document
www.cufon.org/pdf/LRV1.pdf

Scribed LRV1.pdf
www.scribd.com...

From NASA
SP-4220 Wingless Flight: The Lifting Body Story
history.nasa.gov...



My Thread

UFOS & Skunk Work Military Craft in Comics before it was Known ? , page 1
www.abovetopsecret.com...