The time for peaceful resistance is up

reply to post by Hiasyouwant


One of the least sensible things I've ever seen posted here, and that's really saying something. Normally I wouldn't even bother to post a reply but OWS is something I admire and gives me hope for the future. Passive Resistence in order to work at a national scale is going to require that a lot more people agree to join the movement towards change. If it gets violent it will lose followers not gain them, and justify a repressive reaction from those in control. We need a Ghandi, or an organization that has the courage not to get violent. For example, if we all got together and decided no consuming on wednesday - can you go a day without spending money? of course you can! But enough people decide to do this, and we'll have their balls in a vice, markets will go crazy. Arianna Huffington tried a little of this when she encouraged people to change from big banks to credit unions - shortly after AOL bought huffpo, what a coinky-dink! Go figure, I know the gov's got agents here, I'm just wondering if the rest of us are stupid enough to be continously misled.

reply to post by Hiasyouwant


vote for ron paul in the republican primary, if enough of us vote it will be difficult for them to rig the elections, with exit polls and such most likely going to be at an all time high in 2012 because of knowledge of past frauds, the more votes he gets, the harder it will be for them to take counties and thereby states (electoral votes) away from him. Then again, even if he wins a state, the electorate still dont have to vote for him do they? Someone confirm/deny that, im not sure on that. My advice, wait until after the primaries, if we dont have a strong constitutionalist in position to win, and things start to get really bad, AND they come for your guns, then the citizen militias will go into effect. When they come gun grabbing that will be the time to act.

reply to post by Hiasyouwant


Yep, you are absolutely right.

While peaceful protest is ideal.. for the sake of lives and negotiations. Politicians don't give a flying crap, and nothing will ever change.

Full scale riots might not be a good gesture, but it strongly gets the message across that people want change, and they want it NOW.

IMO peaceful protests barely get onto the news, resulting in hardly any mention or notice. They also get brushed under the carpet, so to speak.

reply to post by Hiasyouwant


Violence goes against the nature of the universe. The path of least resistance is the quickest, most effective way of making change a reality. A call to violence causes the movement for real change to lose all credibility. What is being protested against is the violent nature in which we the people of this Earth are being treated by the super wealthy individuals and MNCs.

I'll say this again, how can it be violence if it's SELF DEFENSE. We are being attacked and raped from every angle.
All it takes is ONE good bite for that hand to pull back, and that hand has been controlling every aspect of our lives for a while now.

Oh its our right to "protest"? Let me ask you, what about our duty as not only an American, but as a human being, to defend this country and this planet from those that wish to destroy it. I'm not going to take it anymore. This isn't their country anymore.

You guys offer "Oh don't spend any money", what you meant to say was "Don't spend THEIR money" It's theirs, from their own printing press. Really, that's where we're at? Don't spend on a Wednesday? Or go vote?

Man.. I don' think some of you grasp that if we don't take our country back from the elites soon, and I mean real soon, we won't have a country to take back. These are absolutely dire crucial circumstances.


Let me get this straight, If a group or man broke into your home with evil intentions(just as they have broken into our country), by some of your logic you'd be running for the sharpie and poster board? Good luck

reply to post by AncientAstronaut


No. Violence or in our case self defense is necessary to keep balance and order in the universe.

reply to post by Hiasyouwant
By all means .....you first,I never did like the idea of being cannon fodder.

Please explain how you would do it...................or are you just running your mouth because mama kicked you out of the basement.................again?

The use of violence is counter productive.

The use of violence is counter productive. Like as using a flame thrower to put out a fire is counter productive. In all of this OWS [occupy wall street] demonstration chaos no one even has any clear idea as to what it is that we want the future to be ? Most demonstrators are very soft in the head. Sitting in a street there by to block traffic is only going to draw a violent response from the establishment because violence is the only language that the establishment thugs are able to understand. However to then use said violence committed by the establishment thugs as an excuse to embark on an equally thuggish campaign of "Trotskyite" genocidal revolutionary violence is only going to escalate the violence to an even higher level. Those who embark on using violence will be countered by even greater violence. The violence is already escalating out of control. Yesterday I heard that President Obama has given Homeland Security orders that will allow for even as many as 500,000 protestors to be arrested and held permanently in specialist military prisons "FEMA Camps" as if they are enemy combatant during war time. It will not stop there. The degree of insanity is getting to be such that it is realistic to say that at some point yet to arrive nuclear weapons will be used or worse. No doubt the violence will spiral out of control such that we are looking straight into the pit of hell. The nightmare is only just beginning. A nightmare without any end. He who lives by the sword will die by the sword. Even death will not be the end of their nightmare. As you do to others so shall it be done to you. Thus do for others as you would want others to do for you. Forgiving is better than to be forgiven. Peace is a Gift of God given to whom so ever She please to give it or not as the case may be. No matter how great the provocation I advise all of you to avoid committing any form of violence. Violence never has and never will make the world a better place to live in.

The law that I live by and which is holding us all bonded is called PRAECEPTAE CAELENIUM (tm). I did not read it in a book. You will not find it in any book. It was revealed to me by audio clairvoyance during the celebrations of the New Millennium in 2000. Summed up it basically means no sex no drugs and no violence. (1) From eternity to eternity, infinity to infinity, there be the one absolute. The One True God. Her names are many but she be the one true God there be no other God. The one judge there be no other judge. (2) La Deus Nostra, Notre Dame, Our Lady, The Holy Spirit, the cause the maker Cosmica. (3) Angelic powers of truth and beauty and righteousness be sure to be loving Her Holiness Above with all your mind and with all your heart and with all your strength. (4) So as to be pleasing to Her Holiness Above therefore do not be serving the masculine. (5) Do not be and do not allow masculinity into positions of government. (6) Honour and respect the virgin pureness of the christae. (7) Honour and respect the Immaculate Conception [parthenogenesis] reproductive process of the christae. (8) Do not fornicate or adulterate or sodomize. (9) Do not bully or torture or murder. (10) Do not lie. (11) Do not steal. (12) Do not be covetous. (13) Do not be jealous. Copyright NGL(c)2000.

He who trusts in violence to be his security cannot speak that he trusts in God to be his security.

SHIMONO

VAMPIREFREAKS

AVE RAEGINA CAELINA LA DEUS NOSTRA CAELI LA VERA DEUS

reply to post by Battleline


Listen here buddy boy, this is not the place to organize anything as that's against the T&C. Unless you have anything useful to say, please refrain from just bashing.

You say by all means me first.. If only I thought for 1 second you'd actually be behind me.

Remember this- all it takes is 1 spark to ignite a fire. (Figuratively)

Editing to add, where would I start? Try Occupy Vatican City. Try Occupy District of Columbia, Try the Inner walls of London. You chop the head off, the body dies. Wall street is a tiny toe on a huge monster. Wake up

reply to post by Hiasyouwant


Instead of succumbing to emotions and attacking physically find a way to change the world through positive action. You want new energy technology? Then you spend all of your free time and energy dedicated to the subject. You want a new financial system? Then you collaborate with knowledgeable individuals to effect those changes. You want to stop GMO food? Then you do like they did in India and go back to the way you used to farm. All change is gradual, nothing is abruptly done. All motion increases and decreases, it does not change abruptly. You want to end this harmful, self centered game of theirs? Then you change the rules of their own game.

reply to post by AncientAstronaut


See, I don't intend on even playing the same game as them. It's not emotions getting to me anymore. It's the understanding that this is the time in history where we as a human race have a chance to take our planet back.

Those ideas are fine and dandy, do we really have time for it? It's kind of like plucking out every hair 1 by 1 of some giant- big deal then its bald. The Giant has to go, begone. We don't have a choice anymore.

reply to post by CAELENIUM


The use of self defense is only counter-productive if you lose the fight.
Trust me as much as you fear the government and Obama, they are 10x more afraid of an Armed Militia as not only our right but our duty. See the constitution.

reply to post by Hiasyouwant


Violence is never the answer.

You should be as willing to give up your life for Baron Rothschild as you are to give it up for your own son.

You're not, and neither am I. But that's the only way we will ever win.

TPTB can't run this world alone: They need us. Peaceful non-participation is the only way to ensure a lasting revolution of mind and spirit.

And if you think violent revolution is so good, just take a look at what its legacy has turned your country into. Land of the free? Try the most violent, exploitative, and destructive empire in human history. You can thank your revolutionary founders for that.

The sins of the fathers really do echo down through the ages. The moment we lift the stone to throw it... we've already lost.

I will stand in front of a bank. I will lay my body down in its doorway. I will be tased, pepper-sprayed, beaten, and maybe shot. But I will never smash its windows, and I will never lift a finger in hatred or violence.

You can if you want. Won't TPTB be pleased: One more toy soldier for them to play with.

Have it your way if you must, I guess we can always wait for the next revolution...

Why sit in front of a bank instead of the lavish estate of a Rothschild? Why should I have love when At this point I'm not sure they're even Mammals. Either that or they genetically engineer their children to be narcissistic. It's not violence, its self defense.

I understand many of you here are spiritual, intelligent, and many other qualities I wish I had, but what if your peaceful plan doesn't work? Violence HAS worked in the past.

We need a real, true revolution. Also I find it offensive you'd blame our forefathers. Try the Rothchilds, try the Vatican, try whatever other puppet master. This is not The United States Empire, it is merely a puppet. They control this country, they control the world. And you're going to blame our forefathers?

And one more thing, they DO NOT need us.

Originally posted by Hiasyouwant
reply to post by Battleline

 

Listen here buddy boy, this is not the place to organize anything as that's against the T&C. Unless you have anything useful to say, please refrain from just bashing.

You say by all means me first.. If only I thought for 1 second you'd actually be behind me.

Remember this- all it takes is 1 spark to ignite a fire. (Figuratively)

Editing to add, where would I start? Try Occupy Vatican City. Try Occupy District of Columbia, Try the Inner walls of London. You chop the head off, the body dies. Wall street is a tiny toe on a huge monster. Wake up

edit on 20-11-2011 by Hiasyouwant because: (no reason given)

No bashing,just wanted to see how you would react.

I read some of your other post's and you have gone from "send your love vibrations" and "our only weapon,WE call it love" to "You chop the head off, the body dies".................witch is it and how does anyone belive you when you have such huge mood swings?

Originally posted by Hiasyouwant
Why should I have love when At this point I'm not sure they're even Mammals.

That's how they think: Eugenics, perfection, and purifying the species. They aren't even sure you're human. Are you really going to play their same game?

Originally posted by Hiasyouwant
I understand many of you here are spiritual, intelligent, and many other qualities I wish I had, but what if your peaceful plan doesn't work? Violence HAS worked in the past.

Has it? Has it ever really? Worked in the short-term, maybe. But in the long-term... Where has any of that hate and violence really gotten us?

Originally posted by Hiasyouwant
We need a real, true revolution. Also I find it offensive you'd blame our forefathers. Try the Rothchilds, try the Vatican, try whatever other puppet master. This is not The United States Empire, it is merely a puppet. They control this country, they control the world. And you're going to blame our forefathers?

I don't blame the fathers of the American revolution for anything more than founding America. Whether or not their legacy is a positive or a negative one is up to you Americans. So far it's been a mix of both, but with a decidedly negative bent in the last seventy years. You're the one who cares: What are you going to do about it?

Its not a mood swing, it's coming face to face with reality and where we are in human history, and recognizing. As I've said, I have tried my hardest to be a loving being, and this is absolutely not the time for love. I feel sorry for these evil souls, that doesn't mean I'm not ready to see them enter the afterlife sooner rather than later.

Hiasyouwant,
Great....Whip them into a frenzy. Maybe you never seen students carrying signs fight it out with Riot Police,
it's not very pretty. You need to be a little more considerate of you Comrades, Comrade

Originally posted by Hiasyouwant
Its not a mood swing, it's coming face to face with reality and where we are in human history, and recognizing. As I've said, I have tried my hardest to be a loving being, and this is absolutely not the time for love. I feel sorry for these evil souls, that doesn't mean I'm not ready to see them enter the afterlife sooner rather than later.

edit on 20-11-2011 by Hiasyouwant because: (no reason given)

There's a time for everything - maybe you're right in that.

But if the world ever needed love... that time would be now. The world has seen enough of violence.

For the Americans here, do you really call this defending America? Defend why? Because we are being attacked!. Glad to see at least a few some Patriots here. It gives me hope.

They wouldn't be taking your 500,000 protesters to FEMA camps if you were winning the battle (To whom ever said that

I am not trying to start an uprising. Against the rules.