OWS leading the way to darkness and dictatorship

I just posted this on another thread, but I felt it was such an important message that I think I should post it as its own thread.

Everything you see going on now is all set up to take your freedom from you. Even though you think it is all about freedom, it is not, it is about subjugation of your mind heart and soul. Please read this excellent message that is written so that you can really understand what is happening in America and around the world.

And hopefully, when you read this, it help so that you won't get drawn into this OWS movement.

uselessdissident.blogspot.com...

reply to post by Sweetmystery

If the NWO is going to happen anyways, would you rather be out on the streets fighting it, or on your computer doing nothing but helping the people trying to establish it? I'm not saying that the OWS is or isn't going to bring in the NWO, cause frankly I don't know, and neither does anyone else. I do know that if its coming anyways, I'd rather be on the street with thousands ready to die than become even more slaves than we are already...

be honest with me here OP...

did you read all of this? because it's a whole lot.

if you did, please give a synopsis.

i got till half of part 2 and have failed to see how this pertains to the OWS movement.

maybe i'm wrong but i'm sure someone is going to correct me.

i would like to add this though.

EX-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenow talks about destabalising a country etc.
the same thing the letter is talking about.

reply to post by Sweetmystery


I don't think OWS has THIS much influence at all.

They're not leading anything.

They don't want to.

All they want to do is stand outside and complain.

reply to post by Sweetmystery

Thanks for the link and story on this. I've read and heard interviews of similar people from the old Soviet system over the years and it never ceases to amaze me how quickly we all seem to forget. Stories in recent years say the SVR (modern KGB) is more active now than at any time during the Cold War for U.S. domestic efforts.

If the connection is there to OWS...I think it'll come into the open sooner than later....and having context like this will help make sense of what we see if/when that comes to pass. It's valuable and I'm linking it to a variety of friends and other sites I'm on. If there is no connection in the end....well, that still leaves the old Intelligence agencies hard at work and up to no good...even if politicians go through great effort to pretend otherwise.

There is also that minor detail about how Vladimir Putin left the KGB as a Colonel. He's about as trustworthy as an injured wolverine in a real bad mood. Just my thoughts and great thread for the timing.

A defector's words...

From your link:

The driving force of this war has very little to do with natural aspirations of people for better lives and greater freedoms. If at all, these aspirations are being used and taken advantage of by the manipulators and progenitors of the war. The real driving force of this war of aggression is IDEOLOGY-- something you cannot eat, wear or store for a "rainy day." An integral part of this war of ideology is IDEOLOGICAL SUBVERSION-- the process of changing the perception of reality in the minds of millions of peoples all over the world. The late comrade Andropov, the former head of the Soviet KGB, called this war of Communist aggression, "the final struggle for the MINDS and hearts of the people."

This is EXACTLY what is going on here, and their psy-ops have become so elaborate and sophisticated in the digital age that it is nearly impossible to prove.

Either the "capitalist pigs" in the USA can be converted to communism, or they can be destroyed from within by movements that will fragment their government and economy ideologically to a point at which it all collapses and destroys the capitalist empire, but not before transferring its wealth and power to the rest of the world.

OWS is a small visible demonstration of only a part of a long term strategy "the plan"

Meanwhile in Iran and Syria.....

Yes, I did read the whole thing... the only way I can summarize it is that it seems the same tactics used by Communist and the KGB brutal take overs are being clearly used here in the U.S. under the guise of the OWS people who really do not realize they are being 'lead' by those who do not care one bit about them as individuals. They are being used, do they know this?

It will end up to be something like "kill your friend for the "collective good" sort of thing.

I would NOT join the upheaval. I think there is something behind it that has very bad 'intentions'. Not sure what or how or who. But, I find it very sad.

I thought we, as people of the world, would wake up in these days and go toward the power of individuals and individuality and freedom from governments and from controlling authoritarian religions and regimes....rather than the letting and submitting to the false powers and systems and ideologies...

I just think its all sad, and I do not and cannot do a thing about it...except I thought maybe point out this NWO is not going to be about kindness and love... and I just think maybe if I post something that might keep others from joining this madness and darkness.... I thought this guys message about how subversive the take over is, that this might help so that no one joins the mob mentality...somehow, maybe...

I did actually read the whole thing, it is interesting. Basically its not about OWS, but it relates in that OWS is largely about the redistribution of wealth, which this article is saying is a Socialist/Communist agenda.

It also talks about privatization and the government basically running the show. Which is really where we are headed, so the article is really important I think. The fact that people think they want a "businessman" for a president just goes to show that our country is actually CRAVING the government to just take over and be done with it. People can't wait!

reply to post by Seventhdoor



Thank you Seventhdoor, I am glad you saw the importance of this message. It just seemed to me that the 'old tactics' back then are being used here and I do not think the OWS know they are being lead by people who do not care about them as individuals at all...they are just following the wrong direction...

Well, you said it better, thanks for that.

Originally posted by Sweetmystery
It will end up like "kill your friend for the "collective" good" sort of thing.

Seriously?

I have really read it all now on ATS.

IMHO, spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt like this tripe is far worse than anything OWS has to say.. Propaganda like this - playing on people's emotions and demonizing fellow citizens who are exercising their constitutional rights- will lead to no good. It's positively Orwellian.

reply to post by kosmicjack


With all the collectivism being espoused, all the Eat the Rich-French Revolution style rhetoric, all the violence we've seen lately, OWS is doing a pretty good job at demonizing themselves.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


Thanks Fractured Facade, Yes, you understand what my point of posting this was. I appreciate that.

Well, I just think sharing the 'other side' of this might be helpful to someone around here, so they don't get lead into it without knowing where it might be going...

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Thank you Wabbit,

Really nice that there a few of you here who can see why I posted this. It just seemed so much like what is happening now.

Thank you for sharing with others, I thought it was important and you right, it won't hurt if this is not what is really going on.

Thanks

reply to post by projectvxn


Whatever, it cuts both ways. There was clearly a nationwide effort to disband the peaceable OWS demonstrations. If the PTB feel the need to use riot control tactics on peaceful protesters then events will naturally escalate due to the chaos. Throw in provocateurs and it's a great little bit of propaganda to further the cause of the police state.

It's hilarious how so many who whine and cry about the importance of our Constitution in turn then whine and cry when their fellow citizens attempt to exercise those same rights. I think the Tea Partiers are just jealous that they never hit such a nerve or had such wide spread support as OWS.

reply to post by projectvxn



Well, I sure hope you are right, certainly seems a good way to look at it.

reply to post by kosmicjack

Whatever

There was clearly a nationwide effort to disband the peaceable OWS demonstrations.

No there wasn't. That's just conspiracy paranoia based on absolutely nothing. Police have been responding to violent acts and lawlessness at several events.

Interestingly enough, the Occupy Reno protest has not been broken up. And very few police have been assigned because the protesters have been peaceful and law abiding to the point where they have been working with the city to make sure they are visible but not disruptive. They have done what many others seemed to have refused to do, and that is work within the law.

If the PTB feel the need to use riot control tactics on peaceful protesters then events will naturally escalate due to the chaos.

Riot control tactics are used when people get aggressive en masse with the police and nearby property is being damaged. You have the right to peaceably assemble. Not riot.

Throw in provocateurs and it's a great little bit of propaganda to further the cause of the police state.

This seems to be the same mantra spoken by OWSers who don't want to admit to any lawlessness. It's all "provocateurs" and never a product of their own doing.

You start a movement, let anyone in without question, and then expect things to stay calm.

It's hilarious how so many who whine and cry about the importance of our Constitution in turn then whine and cry when their fellow citizens attempt to exercise those same rights.

Where in the Constitution does it state that you have the right to riot, cover up rape, arson, throwing things at cops, and breaking property? www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think the Tea Partiers are just jealous that they never hit such a nerve or had such wide spread support as OWS.

Yea, tea partiers are jealous

reply to post by kosmicjack


You are right, maybe that was a bad example of how bad it might get....but we do know that this is how communism works...so, I was just saying that if is some kind of communist socialist or authoritarian regime of some kind behind all this, then maybe being warned is a good thing...

Maybe I am off on this totally.

If so, I hope so.

I Certainly had no intention of fear mongering, but that article scared me.

I am just wanting to be on my toes here, and not get duped by either the "thems or theys" Who ever they may be.

And I love freedom and the constitution so if these guys in OWS are actually and factually protecting freedom and the constitution, that is fine by me.

Thanks... I had no idea I would get such diverse and strong reactions to this, sorry, if I should not have posted this.

Originally posted by projectvxn

There was clearly a nationwide effort to disband the peaceable OWS demonstrations.

No there wasn't. That's just conspiracy paranoia based on absolutely nothing.

Um, yes...there was. ATL Mayor Kasim Reed said in an interview that he and other Mayors of cities with Occupy movements discussed strategies for dealing with (disbanding) the various OWS demonstrations.

And you should change your cute little cartoon sign to say "alleged" rapes. Alleged by who? Allegedly raped by who?

reply to post by kosmicjack


Indeed..

I should also change the sign to read a higher number since more and more are reported.

You got a source on what the mayors have been saying? I'd sure like to know, in context, what is being said and why.