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Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by kn0wh0w
I think congratulations are in order to the USA for instigating the action in Libya and carefully ensuring that they were not physically involved whilst installing yet another Islamic State which in due course of time will come back and bite them on the backsides.
Can anyone guarantee that the new Islamic government will educate the women, will pay for peoples education, will repair the water supply system, will ensure free hospital treatment, will make sure everyone has housing etc etc?
I really don't know by what means the US Government determines that it has the right to interfere in the affairs of other countries.
edit on 21/10/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)
why do us liveleakers always gotta get the only cameraman with tremors????!?!?!?!!? D:
Originally posted by kn0wh0w
just found this on liveleak.
didn´t see it posted, if i missed it you'll know what to do.
pretty graphic video imho.
it shows Gaddafi beaten, bloody and bruised.
begging for his life, surrounded by a croud and getting beaten.
pretty horrible sight to behold.
you´ve been warned.
thought i would bring this to ATS´s attention.
thoughts?edit on 21-10-2011 by kn0wh0w because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jepic
I'm sure Gadhafi knew he won the moment he was getting beaten up or shot.
Why? Because he knew they were beginning a new era with bloodshed and murder, not with Lady Justice.
An era that begins with bloodshed, lives in bloodshed.
The only way Lybians would have won is if they didn't kill him. They missed their only chance to save their country.
Those men's hearts were filled with unparalleled hatred... not something they dreamt of in some unearthly realm or something they read in some Stephen King novel. It was real. And the people who felt the liberty from that tyrant's hand for the first time ever were cheering in the streets because of their first taste of what it was like to be let out of that cage. Do you remember back when you were in elementary school.... and how amazing recess felt... to taste a tiny bit of freedom for the first time ever in your life after being confined? Well I remember wholeheartedly... I ran ... and ran... with the cool breeze against my face... I didn't care where I was running to or for what... I tasted a tiny bit of freedom and it was the greatest breeze I've ever felt in my life, however minimal and shortly felt it was... however long it was meant to last... I didn't care... all I knew, being as young and adolescent, was it felt truly heavenly. Now that I'm much older I do not know if I'll ever feel that exodus again.... locked up in these shackles someone else's appointed government has decided to lock me up with. But I will never forget that little ounce of freedom I tasted.
Originally posted by Misoir
You cannot begin a new civilized country with an act of barbarity. That, in the end, is what this video shows. My prediction for the new Libya is one of years filled by horrors not dreamt of in the worst revolutionary’s nightmares. There will be blood, shed of children and women in every city from the sands of the Sahara to the coast of the Mediterranean.
Qaddafi was a man, by Western law, of innocence. He had not been convicted of any crimes whatever; it was an accusation which ended in the taking of his life. Mark my words, this revolution will be the undoing of Libya.
Originally posted by MikhailBakunin
Originally posted by Jepic
I'm sure Gadhafi knew he won the moment he was getting beaten up or shot.
Why? Because he knew they were beginning a new era with bloodshed and murder, not with Lady Justice.
An era that begins with bloodshed, lives in bloodshed.
The only way Lybians would have won is if they didn't kill him. They missed their only chance to save their country.
Sit in anger watching the murderer of your child get a lethal injection and tell me if you feel that was justice.... until then... your words hold no water
And the people who felt the liberty from that tyrant's hand for the first time ever were cheering in the streets because of their first taste of what it was like to be let out of that cage. Do you remember back when you were in elementary school.... and how amazing recess felt... to taste a tiny bit of freedom for the first time
. and how amazing recess felt... to taste a tiny bit of freedom for the first time
Oh you didn't know? What determines whether the US has the right is something called "Catch 22". If we get involved.... "OMG Stay out of our business!" If we don't get involved "OMG Why you no halp?!". So here's what I say... we're going to look bad either way.... Flex some muscle. =\
Originally posted by TopherWayne
Awesome! This brings a smile to my face and joy to my heart watching this pig get beat senseless by his own people! Justice has been served! =)
Originally posted by andy06shake
reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone
"This man was an evil torturing murderer, rolling around in obscene wealth while his people suffered. He caused innocent protesters to be mown down. He cause millions of deaths of innocents. Nothing you can even imagine was beyond this man. "
Sounds like the British Monarchy to me, maybe not now, but not that long ago! Ask the Scottish(Tanks on the streets of Glasgow in the 30s-40s), ask the Irish(Bloody Sunday 1972), ask the Welsh(5 year old kids working in mines less than 100 years ago). The list go's on and on!edit on 22-10-2011 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)edit on 22-10-2011 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by gabbermatt
Oh you didn't know? What determines whether the US has the right is something called "Catch 22". If we get involved.... "OMG Stay out of our business!" If we don't get involved "OMG Why you no halp?!". So here's what I say... we're going to look bad either way.... Flex some muscle. =\
I believe the problem is that whilst in some respects you are right, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't, America seems unable to determine what it should do in a given situation. If we leave the grievances of the participants out of this for a moment take a look at the options.
Situation 1
We will assume for a moment that a 'dictator' is firing on his citizens. Some of the citizens asking for help, or are perceived to be being oppressed with out actually saying 'we need help' and therefore are in need. The affair is essentially an internal event. Should an external power intervene? I believe not.
Situation 2
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