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Originally posted by centurion1211
IF all you have are deflection attempts, you might as well stop now. Mods?
Stated and restated, the transcript of obama's speech is not the title or the subject of the OP.
It is European reaction to what obama actually said.
Obama warned Europeans that their inaction was "scaring the world."
The Europeans, he said, "have not fully healed from the crisis back in 2007 and never fully dealt with all the challenges that their banking system faced. It's now being compounded by what's happening in Greece."
He continued: "They're going through a financial crisis that is scaring the world, and they're trying to take responsible actions, but those actions haven't been quite as quick as they need to be."
The problem, however, is that the US president is absolutely right. For far too long, the Europeans -- including the Germans -- treated the financial crisis as a purely American problem. They have still found no solution for their own debt crisis. Now Europe's problems are having a negative impact on growth and jobs around the world, including in the US.
Originally posted by centurion1211
The OP title - per the T&C - is the title of the article.
The content of the article speaks for itself.
And, repeating, has nothing to do with a transcript of obama's speech.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Aside - we've already seen several examples where the written transcripts don't match what was actually said by obama, so even that makes your point moot.
Originally posted by centurion1211
The latest on obama from Europe.
Does this mean they don't want him to be king any more, or does it mean he won't also be winning the Nobel Prize for Economics now.
source
US President Obama has given the Europeans a harsh lecture on the dangers of their ongoing debt crisis. Offended by the unsolicited advice, Europeans have suggested the US get its own house in order first. Obama's remarks were "arrogant" and "absurd," German commentators say on Wednesday.
and
The mass-circulation Bild writes:
"Obama's lecture on the euro crisis … is overbearing, arrogant and absurd. … In a nutshell, he is claiming that Europe is to blame for the current financial crisis, which is 'scaring the world.' Excuse me?"
"The American president seems to have forgotten a few details. The most important trigger of the financial and economic crisis was US banks and their insane real-estate dealings. The US is still piling up debt … The American congress is crippled by a battle between the right and the left. The banks are gambling just as recklessly as they did before the crisis. The president's scolding is a pathetic attempt to distract attention from his own failures. How embarrassing."
Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by Indigo5
Let me refresh you on the OP then as you seem to be having trouble with that (on numerous threads).
All I see are references to the European reaction to the scolding obama gave them
Originally posted by centurion1211
IF all you have are deflection attempts, you might as well stop now. Mods?
The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes:
"Dark clouds have gathered over the American president. The gloomy state of the economy is putting a dampener on Obama's future prospects. The optimism of the past is gone, replaced by a cheap search for a scapegoat."
Vice President Joe Biden told Florida radio station WLRN on Thursday that voters should hold President Barack Obama, not former President George W. Bush, accountable for the poor state of America’s economy.
Conservative PAC American Crossroads circulated the startling statement Thursday afternoon, expecting it will take Democratic campaign strategists by surprise.
“Right now, understandably — totally legitimate — this is a referendum on Obama and Biden and the nature of the state of the economy,” Biden said.
Originally posted by centurion1211
More European quotes from the OP:
The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes:
"Dark clouds have gathered over the American president. The gloomy state of the economy is putting a dampener on Obama's future prospects. The optimism of the past is gone, replaced by a cheap search for a scapegoat."
The problem, however, is that the US president is absolutely right. For far too long, the Europeans -- including the Germans -- treated the financial crisis as a purely American problem. They have still found no solution for their own debt crisis. Now Europe's problems are having a negative impact on growth and jobs around the world, including in the US.
The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:
"One needs to remember the context within which Obama's scolding of the Europeans took place. It was an event where the president was raising money for the Democrats and where he wanted to explain to voters why the US economy is much worse off than he and his economic experts had believed until recently. Hence his criticism of the EU was simple electioneering."
Originally posted by centurion1211
The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:
"One needs to remember the context within which Obama's scolding of the Europeans took place. It was an event where the president was raising money for the Democrats and where he wanted to explain to voters why the US economy is much worse off than he and his economic experts had believed until recently. Hence his criticism of the EU was simple electioneering."
Note that these different quotes I've been posting are from both the left and right in Europe, so it's obvious that these opinions are balanced across the political spectrum.
The problem, however, is that the US president is absolutely right. For far too long, the Europeans -- including the Germans -- treated the financial crisis as a purely American problem. They have still found no solution for their own debt crisis. Now Europe's problems are having a negative impact on growth and jobs around the world, including in the US.
The financial daily Handelsblatt writes:
"That's not how friends talk to each other. That applies particularly to friends who have themselves failed to get a handle on their own, self-made crisis. Barack Obama governs a country where, despite billions in state aid, the economy is stagnating, companies refuse to invest despite calls for patriotism, and which gets embroiled in one political trench war after another … Now this country is dispensing advice, suggestions and finger-pointing."
Originally posted by centurion1211
And more - this time from one of Europe's financial papers:
The financial daily Handelsblatt writes:
"That's not how friends talk to each other. That applies particularly to friends who have themselves failed to get a handle on their own, self-made crisis. Barack Obama governs a country where, despite billions in state aid, the economy is stagnating, companies refuse to invest despite calls for patriotism, and which gets embroiled in one political trench war after another … Now this country is dispensing advice, suggestions and finger-pointing."
Now, that description of the U.S. sounds "spot on" to me.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Wow. Never pegged you for a USA basher? Given how often yourself and other conservatives clammored to paint President Obama as an "Apologist" or "Pawn of Europe"?
I guess all it took was President Obama actually being critical of Europe for you to start your own "I hate the USA" and "Europe is perfect" party..
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by Indigo5
Wow. Never pegged you for a USA basher? Given how often yourself and other conservatives clammored to paint President Obama as an "Apologist" or "Pawn of Europe"?
I guess all it took was President Obama actually being critical of Europe for you to start your own "I hate the USA" and "Europe is perfect" party..
Unfortunately, I had already pegged you for someone who has no problem with making up what other people supposedly said or meant.
Originally posted by centurion1211
And more - this time from one of Europe's financial papers:
The financial daily Handelsblatt writes:
"That's not how friends talk to each other. That applies particularly to friends who have themselves failed to get a handle on their own, self-made crisis. Barack Obama governs a country where, despite billions in state aid, the economy is stagnating, companies refuse to invest despite calls for patriotism, and which gets embroiled in one political trench war after another … Now this country is dispensing advice, suggestions and finger-pointing."
Now, that description of the U.S. sounds "spot on" to me.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by Indigo5
Wow. Never pegged you for a USA basher? Given how often yourself and other conservatives clammored to paint President Obama as an "Apologist" or "Pawn of Europe"?
I guess all it took was President Obama actually being critical of Europe for you to start your own "I hate the USA" and "Europe is perfect" party..
Unfortunately, I had already pegged you for someone who has no problem with making up what other people supposedly said or meant.
Originally posted by centurion1211
And more - this time from one of Europe's financial papers:
The financial daily Handelsblatt writes:
"That's not how friends talk to each other. That applies particularly to friends who have themselves failed to get a handle on their own, self-made crisis. Barack Obama governs a country where, despite billions in state aid, the economy is stagnating, companies refuse to invest despite calls for patriotism, and which gets embroiled in one political trench war after another … Now this country is dispensing advice, suggestions and finger-pointing."
Now, that description of the U.S. sounds "spot on" to me.