London Riots, Is USA Next?

So the way I interpret the song is , people can only take so much before they snap.

A young man was brutally killed by police. If he was guilty of something or not is not the issue. The issue is the governments of this world are pushing most of their citizens to the brink and its only a matter of time before they snap.

I for one feel cornered by my government.

reply to post by getreadyalready


Whatever you say doesn’t change the fact that people, human beings, like the 90 year old lady I took home the other day from shopping, likely she had no money from her meager ss check [ they want to cut] and watched as she went in her home because I feared someone might rob her.

Or the poor kid in the ghetto can’t no longer get a college loan because the cut the budget.

Or my friend who was homeless because his house burnt down and no longer can get assistance because they cut the budget

Or the children I see hungry because they cut food stamps and breakfast programs because they cut the budget


Or the millions of new homeless people because of the mortgage scam rip-off

Or my father, who without health care insurance thrown out of the hospital on the street half dead

I could go on and on, the trouble is that you ivory tower internet philosophers of “freedom” don’t know the real world.

The real world of suffering and neglect of ordinary people who may not be as fortunate as we are to even own a computer to be able to philosophize about other peoples lives and deaths, and believe me you are fortunate to be dead to the real world because it is painful to love and to feel empathy and compassion for those denied good, though I wouldn’t give up empathy for the poor for the self-centered greed of paying less taxes” lovers of freedom.” as those around us live live dogs.

So enjoy your apathy and lack of empathy [ in which believe me; it wont last long] for the real condition of human beings, that is far away from the tea party lovers of the rich, and those—who prize so much their gain that they would destroy the lives of the poor and the sick for a cause to me that isn’t worth the shirt off my back!

We are on a march to the One-World government, economy, religion, et al. False flags, market manipulation, wars, rumors of wars, civil unrest, conspiracies(real or imagined), ATS, etc., etc., etc.

It has been coming for a long time and all of the players are starting to make their moves. At this point it doesn't much matter which side of the fence you fall on because TPTB are mowing down the fences and anyone that gets in the way.

I may sound paranoid...I may be paranoid...but that doesn't mean that they're not out to get me.

When you see all these things, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh....Oh crap! That's just comet ELEnin.

Peace

I'm going to wait patiently to see what long-term effect the latest bout of rioting will accomplish. Can someone educate me on the last time an "Emotional reaction/frustration build-up riot" accomplished any long-term change? The latest batch of riots in the Middle East seem to share a level of organization that is missing from the English riots.

I don't think the question is "IF" it will happen here. I think it will be "WHEN," as our government ramps up taking our liberties away, and imposing costs on us that we didn't ask for, nor wanted, it is only a matter of time before the powder keg is lit, and then a short while after before it explodes.

I have seen more death and destruction on the evening news then I care to admit. Every night there is a sound byte in regards to another shot down by police, cars wrecking and killing drivers and passengers, not to mention all of the "strange" weather that is happening.

It is only a matter of time before TSHTF. Hang on kids, it will be a bumpy ride.

Be careful out there.

Guys it's not just London in the UK - Almost all the major cities are experiencing trouble including Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool.

I think is a BIG test for the people of England.

reply to post by inforeal


Its not going to happen here in any material sense.

Our police have guns and will use them. They will use mounted police, water canons, rubber bullets and tear gas first, but ultimately they will use reall ammunition.

People in the US are not going to stand by and allow their property destroyed. There are too many folks with weapons who will defend their homes and businesses. The government knows that and will put any kind of riot down.

The government will attempt to contain, essentially allowing the thing to go on within a confined area, essentially writing that area off, but it will not expand. The last thing they want is an armed conflict which is largely drawn on race and unfortunately thats what it would be.

It won't happen

Start that crap here I`m all for shooting you. Protest yes but that is not what they are doing.

To want that here is straight stupidity. It will be violence like you have never imagined. A Blood Bath.

It`s already proven fact there is a certain Race of people here that are violent every time they get a chance and a gathering against other races. Racism is alive and well here on all sides and this type activity will show just that first off.

reply to post by inforeal


What lack of empathy?

Things are bad, and they are going to get worse, but it isn't the fault of the Tea Party. This has been brewing for a long time, and we all have played some part in it. Surely you have spent some money at the Dollar Store, or been guilty of buying plasticware instead of doing your own dishes. We all played into this consumptionist society. People actually believe "recycling" is good for the environment. NO! Re-using is good for the environment! Remember the days of returning your glass milk jug or glass coke bottle? Those were the days when we didn't fill up our landfills with junk, just to keep the factories running, and the Chinese kids working hard.

Sorry, but this isn't a lack of empathy. This is just the stance that we should take responsibility for our actions NOW, since we share in the blame, instead of kicking the responsibility off on our children that do not share in the blame for this mess.

And, Tea Partiers are not trying to cut SS. That was some BS that Obama threw out there. SS was never in danger, it is one of the very, very last things that would be touched in a real default. That is more political pandering and fear-mongering!

reply to post by dolphinfan


ya i guess the LA riots couldnt happen either?
listen when people are pushed down enuff they will rise up regardless of how many guns are pointed at them.

Originally posted by inforeal
I could go on and on, the trouble is that you ivory tower internet philosophers of “freedom” don’t know the real world.

Ahh...it's been quite some time since I've posted, but this has drawn me back into it.

And are you a bastion of freedom and liberty? A soldier who has taken up the banner of "...And Justice for All" ?

I know the real world, and for you to group all these problems as a sleight against humanity via the tea party is crazy talk.

Sure, the system is flawed...Show me one that isn't.

But flawed does not equal hopelessness.

Can’t get a college loan? Get a job.

Mortgage Scam rip offs? Again, that was also the fault of the consumer in some cases. Not just the banks. If a deal is too good to be true...it probably is.

And on and on.

Do things happen which are horrible for a human? Yeah, of course, but who's responsibility is it to take care of your neighbor?

The Federal Government?

The State?

How about friends, family, church (if that’s your thing).

I'll tell you what’s wrong with this country...nay...world. And it's people and their priorities. Not a government.

"So enjoy your apathy and lack of empathy..."....Speak for yourself friend. That’s a pretty asinine statement to be throwing out based on your biased views.

Remember, here in America, we are assured Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What we've turned into is me, me, me, me, me.

Would it really be so bad?

Even during the LA riots onlt 53 people died. 11 shot by the National Guard, 4 shot by store owners, 12 by fire and vehicle accidents and 21 "other" shootings.

Considering how many people were involved, how pervasive guns are in the region, how pervasive gang related and crime always has been in the region I'd say 53 deaths over 6 days of tens of thousands of rioters running amok is pretty good.

Seems like you're safer in a riot than you are on the highway.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


Actually, 53 shootings over 6 days in L.A. is probably average. A friend of mine's little sister was shot this summer, just standing watching a basketball game. She recovered thankfully, but the supposed shooter wasn't so lucky the next night. It is a violent culture with street justice and little to no cop involvement. Riots can barely be considered an escalation, the only real difference is the TV cameras caring for a short while, and due to the TV cameras, the police care for a short while.

Canada the view from here:

the usa has been screwing its own for many years now its time to pay the piper. England had no such troubles until it adopted american politics and capitolism. ive been there (london england)
the poverty is attrocious and there is no hope of ever advancing past your lot in life sure it happens but the vast majority are poor and will remain that way. much like ive seen in many us cities.
adopting tea party methods will only succeed in alienating the poor from the so called american dream.
everyone must prosper not just the rich
everyone is entitled to an education right through to college just like the rich
everyone is entitled to health care
everyone is entitled to have a job and pay their taxes
a fare distribution of the wealth is what is needed here thats right socialism the word that americans fear.
otherwise riots like this will happen only i wish they would publish the addresses of the rich guys that started all this crap over the last 30 years so the rioters know where to find them.
canada is in a pretty desent place right now and we owe it all to our concervative banks, strict rules concerning borrowing and social programs that ensure people have a fair chance at life.
give a capitolist too much power and he will use it to keep everyone else down -thats whats happened

reply to post by Juston


your right screw the other guy give me more.
me me me has ruined everything

reply to post by getreadyalready


I think you can spin your tea party lore any way you like but the OP is right on the money. the tea party is selfish at it's core. they like to trot out that "save our children" mantra but c'mon us thinking folk see right through it. so you want to save the future generation a few bucks but you are willing to sacrifice those amongst us who are either hurting, have the least or are the weakest? is that how it works in tea party land? no thanks. I look forward to the day "everyman" stands up and sends the tea party packing. that day can not come soon enough for me.

reply to post by inforeal


The US is on the verge of bankruptcy.
That's what the downgrading of our credit rating means.

Who will fund all those wonderful programs if the Federal Government goes bankrupt?

The answer is they won't be funded. The tea party is trying to get the government to stop spending money that they don't have. If they are successful, perhaps we can prevent a financial Holocaust. If they are not successful, our country will be in for a long and painful depression. It's a case of hurting some people now or hurting a lot more people in a little while. Either way, people will feel the pain.

reply to post by jechill


And who, exactly, is supposed to pay for these "entitlements" that we should all have? If you take from the person who is trying and give to the person who is not trying, what incentive does the trying person have to continue to try?

reply to post by LooksLikeWeMadeIt


So you are unwilling to take responsibility for your own actions that helped to get us here? Our children didn't buy a generation's worth of cheap Chinese stuff. Our children didn't repeatedly vote in politicians that sold out our country. Our children didn't create this entitlement society where everyone that stubs a toe wants to sit at home and collect disability while waiting for a big lawsuit settlement. WE DID THIS! What is wrong with us fixing it?

Sure, I'll spin it. People like you want to delay the inevitable until you aren't around any more, and people like me want to fix it ourselves in the here and now, and try to leave a better legacy for our children. I'm happy to be on my side of this fight!

Originally posted by LooksLikeWeMadeIt
I look forward to the day "everyman" stands up and sends the tea party packing. that day can not come soon enough for me.

You know...the Tea Party WAS the "everyman" standing up to send the corrupt goons in Congress packing. Because of this, the dolts in Congress feel threatened...they are pretty comfortable you see...so they spin out all these boogie man stories about the Tea Party in hopes to paint them in a bad light. Seems that it's working.

I have a question for all you "rah rah down with the Tea Party" fellas.

I want to quit smoking, but cannot afford the Chantrix. Will you buy it for me?