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Super Congress: Welcome to The United States of Goldman Sachs and Company

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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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The US was attacked in a coup d’état and a new government is now in place.

The entire debt "crisis" was a fiasco manufactured to create an
unconstitutional treasonus power grab.

Congress will no longer make the decisions, They have replaced themselves with a small
elite group. Allow me to introduce to you the new ruling elite of The United States.

Super Congress members: ETA: For All General Purposes

Lloyd Blankfein (Goldman Sachs (doing Gods work) ), Richard Fuld Jr. (Lehmann Bros), Robert Stevens (Lockheed Martin (The Pentagon )), Rupert Murdoch (News Corp), Jamie Dimon (J.P. Morgan/Cha­se), Ken Lewis (BOA), Jeffery Immelt (G.E.) and...well...you get the picture.

This group of 12, or Council of 13 will now have the power to carry out the agenda of a
corporate oligarchy of banks headed by the one bank with the most government influence worldwide;
The Federal Reserve Cartel.

The same Federal Reserve that refuses accountability, perpetrates fraud, backroom deals,
secret transactions on the American people to a degree that its incomprehensible!?

The actions of these said bankers has destabilized our financial and economic markets and the
currency of the United States of America so as to destroy the foundation of the Constitutional Republic.

A council of six Republicans and six Democrats will form a commission to come up with
$1.5 Trillion of cuts with the real congress only being allowed an up or down vote on their recommendations.

Where in The Constituion Of The United States does it allow the The Two Houses of Congress
to establish a third House Of Congress to accomplish its dirty deeds?


Congressman Ron Paul warns that the all-powerful new “Super Congress” created by the vote on the debt ceiling will be used to fast-track tax increases while concentrating more power over the nation’s purse strings in the hands of the Washington elite. source


This new unconstitutional Super Congress will take power from the two Houses of Congress
and give it to this group of 12, adding The President essentially creating a Council of 13.

These elite will now rule on matters such as Carbon Tax, Gun Control.



Ron Paul is sounding the alarm on this new "Super Congress", and sums it up.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Ron Paul says this is

a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform. It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership. paul.house.gov...:statement-on-the-budget-control-act&catid=15:floor-statements&Itemid=1


Its time to get this in front of a Federal Judge that wll still adhere to the basic tenets of the constitution.

Government is in collusion with the Central bankers and those in political power,
and thier respective Corporations, with a narrow body of 13 in power...condensed power
to carry out the goals and agenda of a very real Shadow Government

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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships


Super Congress members:

Lloyd Blanlfein (Goldman Sachs), Richard Fuld Jr. (Lehmann Bros), Robert Stevens (Lockheed Martin),
Rupert Murdoch (News Corp), Jamie Dimon (J.P. Morgan/Cha­se), Ken Lewis (BOA),
Jeffery Immelt (G.E.) and...well...you get the picture.


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Is this speculation on your part? Do Super Congress members have to already be members of congress?

We are all angry about this legislation, but the sensationalized headline could mislead.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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Well presented.

Can you believe Murdoch and the President of G.E. are on the same board? MSM is going to continue to manipulate and slant the news to their liking,and it's happening right before our eyes with a "What are YOU going to do about it?" So MSNBC,and NBC's CEO and Fox's CEO are on the same team,way up on the food chain. What a joke!

Judge Nap will be off the air soon. He's too logical even for Fox. They'll just say his ratings were low.
What they won't say is who is his core audience.

As the U.S. Consitution is rewritten for the elite and their business operations,us commoners will be forced to obide buy their rules and SHADDUP or else.

It's pathetic.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Valid point...Any proof those jokers are on the "Team" before I send this page to people?

Or did I just spout off for nothing?



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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I did add a clarification there, which in my opinion sums it up nicely.
For All General Purposes

So, in reality, we await the actual members...whom may be politicians but are run by
thier banking masters.

the Government colludes with the Central bankers and those in political power,
and thier respective Corporations.

The central bankers are controlling our political system. The same players are found over and over
again. They come from the central banks, such as Goldman, and they wind up working in the halls of government, not just here, but also abroad.

Is this not convenient, a narrowing of power, to fit nicely with the coming agenda?
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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Obviously were in for something absolutely unconstitutional and against human rights. Honestly though America is turning into a multicultural nation, any act of violence against human rights is gonna upset a lot more people than just America.

They either want to wage war with the entire world, or they're setting up a scheme so we just start killing each other. Honestly though I really feel half of America is out of control and just a worthless part of society. All these projects, ghettos and gang territories are just out of control and what a waste to the world they are. I for one agree that anything to purge this sort of crap off this planet is fine by me.

Its becoming all to clearly that with each new bill that is introduced to Americans. There is always something going on in the fine print that is taking away more rights. In my eyes we should have already started a revolution and strung these bastards up by their necks! At this point though, what is the point?
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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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For all general purposes, yes. The Usual Suspects

Many people fail to make the connection between the polliticians and the banking cartel.
However when we have a C­oup d'etat such as this people should notice, but I am not sure thats
happening.

Everyone agrees, well nearly everyone...that Golman Sachs runs Washington.

The New York Times explained the presence of Goldman Sachs alumni in virtually all of the
top government financial posts is so great that their team is dubbed "Government Sachs"


IGoldman’s stifling presence in the U.S. Treasury Deparment, and around the federal response to the financial crisis is nearly omnipresent.


The Times points out that Goldman alums include:



Former treasury secretary Hank Paulson
Paulson's bailout chief Neel Kashkari
Interim Treasury investment officer Reuben Jeffrey
Key Treasury players Dan Jester, Steve Shafran, Edward C. Forst, and Robert K. Steel
Key New York Federal Reserve players Stephen Friedman (head of the New York Fed board of governors, who sat on Goldman's board and owned a substantial stake in Goldman while he was making official decisions - and see this), William C. Dudley (head of the New York Fed's unit that buys and sells government securities), and E. Gerald Corrigan (charged with convening a group to analyze risk on Wall Street)


Indeed, Goldman's influence reaches abroad, as well. For example, the head of the World Bank, Robert Zoellick, was formerly Goldman's managing director.
en.wikipedia.org...

The New York post also claims that Goldman is gaming the stock market.
www.nypost.com...;jsessionid=D0C3A89F9F6B67249D4B1F1D1891F387

And Rolling Stone has shown that Goldman gamed the oil market as well.
sites.google.com...


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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Wait? Now the entire concept of national debt is a long term conspiracy/"false flag" to create a Congressional commitee? Out of all the debt debates and budget crisises over the past 50 years, this was the time it was all leading up to? All of the commitments made in the debt deal are simply cover art for the hidden agenda of "taking over the country"? By 13 ELECTED people?

just asking...



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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This ``Super Congress`` is simply a means to secure bipartisan support for the programs that U.S citizens need. You ATS people are just being paranoid.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
A council of six Republicans and six Democrats will form a commission to come up with
$1.5 Trillion of cuts with the real congress only being allowed an up or down vote on their recommendations.


Correct. Sounds like a good idea to me.


[Where in The Constituion Of The United States does it allow the The Two Houses of Congress
to establish a third House Of Congress to accomplish its dirty deeds?


It didn't establish anything but a committee to work on how we will reduce spending by the agreed upon amount. If no agreement is made, there are predetemined cuts that go into effect January 2013. Then, the committee is done. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that this is some permanent power.


This new unconstitutional Super Congress will take power from the two Houses of Congress
and give it to this group of 12, adding The President essentially creating a Council of 13.

These elite will now rule on matters such as Carbon Tax, Gun Control.


Nope. Just how to divide the agreed upon spending cuts over the various government programs.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Anoynymoose
Obviously were in for something absolutely unconstitutional and against human rights. Honestly though America is turning into a multicultural nation, any act of violence against human rights is gonna upset a lot more people than just America.

They either want to wage war with the entire world, or they're setting up a scheme so we just start killing each other.


ummm...no. They dont want any such thing. They want you to keep watching television,
go to work, pay your taxes, buy stuff and keep your mouth shut, and work like a slave
while they leech off of you.

I dont see the multicultual connection.

And who is calling for violence?



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy
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All of the commitments made in the debt deal are simply cover art for the hidden agenda of "taking over the country"? By 13 ELECTED people?



This current crisis, lets be realistic. No need for hyperbole.

And yes, the current Administration is out of money so they want yours now.
And a narrow body of members will now have a ruling power on issues such as Pension Plans,
401K legislation, and so on and so forth.

And as an aside, these 12 people will be appointed, NOT elected.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
This ``Super Congress`` is simply a means to secure bipartisan support for the programs that U.S citizens need.


Well certainly both parties have given away trillions of dollars on bailouts, stimulus, hundreds of welfare programs, food stamps and Obama care. It is not a bipartisan move.



You ATS people are just being paranoid.


No. Refer back to the OP.
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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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And yes, the current Administration is out of money so they want yours now.
And a narrow body of members will now have a ruling power on issues such as Pension Plans,
401K legislation, and so on and so forth.

And as an aside, these 12 people will be appointed, NOT elected.


I disagree. This committee was established to deal with exactly what I presented in my other post on this thread. Once those duties have been completed...it will disband. All they are doing is working to determine where to cut to achieve the reduction voted upon in the debt ceiling deal. There was no broad power to do anything other than work to apply the agreed upon spending cuts throughout the government.Not one single law will be changed from this. You are overracting, as I indicated previously.

And as an aside, these 12 people, while being appointed, will be current members of Congress, which were elected by the American people.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Moreover, you are the one who made the claim that this committee would be creating new gun control laws, which is about as far from the truth as it gets.



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Prepare for the squeeze.

They are going to squeeze is for all we are worth. The lobbying will hit a fever pitch.

But it won't matter who the middle class or the poor support....we're going to get screwed.

Eventually the people of this country will hit the breaking point.


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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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I think you may want to go investigate a little further...

Why then are so many people concerned enough to pass new legislation to govern this
appointed body? (agian not elected )




Immediately after voting against the debt limit deal, Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) introduced a bill to require the real time disclosure of campaign contributions to members of the so-called "super Congress."

According to a press release from Vitter's office, the bill would require all contributions over $1,000 made to either the member's campaign committee or their leadership PAC to be disclosed within 48 hours of receipt. www.huffingtonpost.com...


Can you not see the conflict of interest?



posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy



And as an aside, these 12 people, while being appointed, will be current members of Congress, which were elected by the American people.


Good point, however we elected them to be members of the two Houses of Congress, not
a Super Congress with super veto powers.
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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Excellent post burntheships.

There is no doubt in my mind what the

Council of 13



will use their new "authority" to try to do....take our guns. Guns are the only thing left between us and total tyranny.

Remember what our President said...he will accomplish this under the radar.

Happy 50th birthday BO - celebrate, for your mission is almost accomplished.

BTW, how many disciples/apostles did Jesus choose?

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posted on Aug, 3 2011 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
Prepare for the squeeze.

They are going to squeeze is for all we are worth. The lobbying will hit a fever pitch.

But it won't matter who the middle class or the poor support....we're going to get screwed.



Yep, indeed we are. I have looked around and can not find any limitations
placed upong this appointed Super Congress.


the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.

Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process. www.huffingtonpost.com...




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