Mind Control / Satellite Surveilance Claims - Is this true?

Hi again everyone,
In my thread posting mode lately. Here's another.

Wanted to share this with you. A guy by the name of Guy Harel has numerous claims, re mind control, satellite surveilance, harrassment, etc! Anyway, I kept his email in case it were true because usually newsgroups dump their content after a month or so. If these claims are true , this would be very important for you guys to know. Tried to go to his homepage link but it is no longer at GeoCities.

Please read. His claims are very interesting. Is he a loon or on to something? What do you guys think of these claims? I believe it could be VERY possible: I believe we have all kinds of advanced technology that they have kept hidden from us.

Comments appreciated. Here's his post:

Subject: Repost: My personal story about MC mind butchers
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:26:00 GMT
*SNIP*.
Newsgroups: alt.law-enforcement,alt.mindcontrol,soc.rights.human,alt.conspiracy

Quebec, 4 mars 2000

*SNIP*


To anyone concerned about mind-control in the US and Canada,


Here is a brief description of the techniques and methods of harassement used by the
FBI (or its Canadian branch the RCMP) against me since nearly one year now:



Who am I and why are they stalking and harassing me?

============================================

I claim having been an employee of the Department of the National Defence in Canada
as programmer analyst (CS02), Research Establishment of Valcartier, and thereby
put in contact with people and projects categorized then as "secret".

I claim to have been transfered to the National Head Quarter in St-Hubert and
again been put in touch with high ranked officers and generals, several of which
later became retired and accepted high ranked positions in Banks, Computer consulting
compagnie, federal government,...etc.

I claim having been an employee of several computer software related compagnies
(ACT, DMR, CGI, Permabec, Dassault System in Paris, ...etc) and put in touch with people
claiming having access to "information" about the personal lives of people, myself,
my father, and anybody they wish.

I claim having worked with an employee claiming having worked for a police organisation
like the RCMP, and saying that from a single phone call, he could get information
about anybody he wanted, and that this "power" was one of his way to make himself
worth-while for the computer software compagnie (he was a real "dork" as far as
software engineering is concerned). This employee later showed me a "red book", which
is a "dictionnary of people" listing an unbeleivable amount of personal information
about anybody in Quebec, notably, their sexual habits, whealth value, whereabouts,
...,etc, and this for the last 20 years.


I claim that this employee (Martin Richard, of Boucherville) also later explained in
coverted and diagonal terms that "they" were after the developpement of software which
could mimick the functions of the cognitive brain for use in "smart" machines, and that
he was aware of "organisation" that had "mind-reading" equipment.

I claim that following my resignation from this compagnie as a permanent employee
was enough for them to decide that I knew too much about them and their mind-control
business, and that consequently I should be driven out of the system using their
best MC operative and techniques (satellite, harassement till nerval break down,
powerfull suggestive mind control satellite beams directed to your head making
you crave for sex, drug, alcool, violence, depression...etc)

I claim that if you are lucky enough to overcome the life (and reputation) destructive
power of their MC behavior inducing beams and that you call for help from the local
autorities (police, hospital, politicians, journalist), you systematical and wilfully
will become framed as being crazy, psychotic, depressive, potentialy dangerous for
yourself or others, and subsequently suggested to undergo "preventive" detention in
a mental hospital.

I claim what once in the hospital, if they are still feeling that you will be a
threat once you get out, they will use the "assisted suicide" satellite beam
suggestive technique to make you dream of killing yourself and make your life
a night-mare by directing their other kind of beam to your testicles, ass, liver,
hearth, intestine to make you farth,...etc.


Military satellite for the surveillance of citizens

====================================

I claim that the military have had since quite a number of years satellites allowing
themselves to take photograph of tiny objects on the surface of the Earth and this
despite the fact that these objects were situated inside structure of wood, metal,
cement, ..., and that they can also obtain 3D mappings of the inside and out of any
land, cities, town and they buildings/


I claim that the militaries have from this developped technologies (goggles, head-set,
and gloves) allowing them to stage themselves inside a virtual 3D reproduction of such
cities or town or building, for all kind of purposes including combat training and
engagement rehearsal.


I claim that later the military have enhanced their technology to detect, by satellite, the
tiny amount of energy emitted by the brain of any normal human being, and use these
reading to capture an "encephalographic" emprint of an individual (awake or asleap).
This encephalographic signal can later be "re-played" into an head-set used by another
individual whom thereby get to "see, smell, ear, feel" all that the former spyied upon
individual as felt, smelled and hear. The technologie can also detect the inner-voice
of an individual talking to himself in is own conscious mind. All this, of course,
in real time.


I claim that the military has equiped their satellites (ref: the Echelon program)
in order be able to survey thousands of individuals at the same time, anywhere on
the planet (over 100 satellites are deployed under the Echelon program) and that
once "locked" on your head, they can follow you everywhere you go and that you
cannot escape it.

I claim that despite the initial intentions of the Military to deploy these
satellites to conter the KGB and other groups of terrorists, the technology is now
being used to spy on un-aware citizen of all NATO nations, under the self-justification
that "it has cost us a lot of money (ref: Pat Buchanan)" and that he would be
stupid to throw it away because the cold war is over. Instead, I claim that a
decision has been made by the NATO governments (France, Canada, Germany, UK,...)
to use these spying network to try to conter local drug trafficing, ethnic conflicts,
and crime "at large". (And the former employees involved in the development of
these technologies and whom they dont like and could talk too much)


I claim that the military and the police forces which had the responsability
to use these equipment have lost all notions of ethics and morality and are
using now using them to "stalk" and harass anybody they like: people smoking
pot, marginals, anti-military activists, anti-goverment activist...etc


Why not also send narrow beams of energy towards the subject?

========================================

I claim that the satellite technology also allow the army/police corps to
directly interfere with the human body and its brain from above.

I claim that tiny beam of energy can be used to interfere with various organs
of the body: muscle, skin, stomak, lungs, intestines, penis, testicules, anus,
ears, head, hearth,...etc, and this in the goal of inducing undetectable pain,
suffering, discompfort, hillness,..., bringind a subject to an hospital and
preventing him/her to benefit from a normal life, or to provide for him/herself,
ruin the social and sexual life,...etc.

I claim that they can also subsitute the normal imagery of dreams by imagery they
have prepared themselves, using their virtual 3D computers, and are therefor able
to "plant" dreams/thoughts/desires in a subject while asleep (suicide thoughts,
drugs/alcool desires, violence, incestual ideas...etc).


Social decadence of our political "elite" and lost of control

============================================

I claim that the plans and secrets of these technologies have been STOLEN
to the Canadian Army some years ago, with or without them knowing it,
or by sheer incompetence from their part in protecting them.

I claim that the technology (and know-how to use them) has been SOLD
to several commercial compagnies by the retired military personel who stoled
them from the army, and that they are now systematical and widely used by
compagnies such as : IBM, DMR, CGI, Royal Bank, Bell Canada, and by
political organisation like: the Liberal Federal party of Canada, ...etc.

I claim that these satellite are used to gather personal (intimate) information
about the people these compagnies/parties wants to hire, spy upon,...etc, and
to ruin the personal life of the people these compagnies feel like a treat
to their agenda (political, commercial,...etc)

I claim that these technologies are also being used widely by the marketing
compagnies who create adds for Television and who use the intimate psychological
data acquired, by spying on selected and targeted viewer, to find out if such
product is liked or not, or such add is successfull or not.

I claim that all Canadian (Global, CTV, Radio-Canada, CBC, TVA, TQS), US,
British, and France television stations are also beneficiaries of these illegal
mind-reading technologies and therefore will contributes to protect its secrecy.


Sincerely,


*SNIP*

Can anyone debunk his claims?

Thanks in advance!


MOD NOTE AND EDIT:
Removed personal information. Please do not post personal identifying information here.

Sounds plausible to me, after all technology being 50 years ahead of public knowledge, says a LOT in this day and age. Let's hope this guy doesn't suffer an "accident!"

I claim that the militaries have from this developped technologies (goggles, head-set,
and gloves) allowing them to stage themselves inside a virtual 3D reproduction of such
cities or town or building, for all kind of purposes including combat training and
engagement rehearsal.

Wow! The term mind **** comes to mind...literally!

spec

Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
Sounds plausible to me, after all technology being 50 years ahead of public knowledge, says a LOT in this day and age. Let's hope this guy doesn't suffer an "accident!"

I claim that the militaries have from this developped technologies (goggles, head-set,
and gloves) allowing them to stage themselves inside a virtual 3D reproduction of such
cities or town or building, for all kind of purposes including combat training and
engagement rehearsal.

Wow! The term mind **** comes to mind...literally!

spec

edit on 24-6-2011 by speculativeoptimist because: (no reason given)

It's really scary huh! I hope he hasn't already suffered an accident either... this may be why his page is gone now.. who knows?

Thanks for your comment.... Also I'm not trying to scare anyone .. so please know this. I would like to know if this is tRUE.

Thanks again for your replies!.

Thats heavy, I dont doubt one word of it. Dont forget to flag, people need to read this.

The only issue I have with claims like this is how are people not leaking stuff about it. if you were a regular employee how could you sleep at night knowing this kind of stuff is going on?

There is a paranoia "field" - those in the field see through the eyes of the field, anyone outside of the field will appear "different" to thier eyes, and eventually they will pressure those individuals to "join" thier collective.

Thought I would throw this out there and let you form your own opinion...There may be nothing to this AT ALL but I wanted to share this....

I had a ''scare'' last night. Was at a couple of friends house. While sitting on their couch , all of a sudden I got to feeling light headed and faint, I went pale, like all of my blood was running from my body, my stomach hurt and started feeling in a tight knot. I started sweating profusely, and was almost to the point of being lifeless, I felt. Friends had to get a cold washcloth for me, etc. My speech was slurred even. I felt totally drained and nauseated.

This really scared the daylights out of my friends, and they almost called an ambulance for me but I wouldn't let them. I just wanted to get home, lie down, curl up with my stomach and sleep. Friends had to drive me home in my car and someone followed to get my other friend back home. No I WAS NOT drinking or drunk or anything such!.
My first thought was that this episode was like a sugar drop ...but the thing is , is that I had eaten before going to their house. SoOo I am NOT SO SURE what this was... I am doing FINE this morning, I never vomited or anything after getting home. Again thought I should mention it...because.I have no clue what caused this episode.

Cooincidence or not ? Kind of ironic to me since I posted this thing.

Edit to add: Found this link here at ATS that I had overlooked. re Mind Control Subjects Testifying at Presidential Commission. Thought it should be read especially !
You can view it here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by SeekerLou
I had a ''scare'' last night. Was at a couple of friends house. While sitting on their couch , all of a sudden I got to feeling light headed and faint, I went pale, like all of my blood was running from my body, my stomach hurt and started feeling in a tight knot. I started sweating profusely, and was almost to the point of being lifeless, I felt. Friends had to get a cold washcloth for me, etc. My speech was slurred even. I felt totally drained and nauseated.

edit on 26-6-2011 by SeekerLou because: corrections

Sounds to me like it could of been a panic attack.

reply to post by Gazmeister


Appreciate your comment , I can see how one might would think this, however this happened while cutting up with friends, NO PANIC was involved. We had been joking etc. when this hit out of the blue.

Also I am not a diabetic either btw, thought I should mention this..

reply to post by SeekerLou


See my previous replies here on this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

and you might want to check out this site; montalk.net

Because I do not wish to go against the long quoting external texts rule on ATS I highly suggest you read this article: eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.com...

It's called, "Fuk U Shima" and I will give you a simple three paragraphs to get you started,

This agenda is being carried out on every level and in every way conceivable — through nanotechnology, genetic engineering, chem-trail spraying, electronic mind control, mass media propaganda, weather modification, deforestation, killing of the seas and oceans (e.g., think British Petroleum in the Gulf of Mexico), radioactive contamination (think Chernobyl and Fukushima, Japan), and more.

The Fortune 500 companies, the Pentagon, Wall Street, the Big Banks, the USA government and other major governments, espionage and spy agencies, criminal syndicates, the major religions, the formal “educational” system and other large institutions are all an integral part of this Machine and its deadly rampage.
It uses technology and people as its appendages. It is infinitely resourceful and devious and it will not stop coming.

The only way out of this situation for us is to go in. A conventional uprising against tyranny is not sufficient to definitively thwart this Machine. Such uprisings are merely fuel for its agenda of total conquest.

Source and rest of article: eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.com...

Again as previously stated, this all sounds quite mad, insane and demented but than again, I only list this as a possiblity not actual fact because I am willing to admit I cannot prove what is reality and what is fantasy, what is genius and what is insane.

Personally, I believe it is possible (notice I did not say absolutely) that we as a species have been attacked from many different angles by possibly (there is that word again) not just one group from one place, here we're talking like the comedy movie, "Men In Black", beings from other worlds, both 3 dimensional and possibly other dimensions, parallel worlds, multiverses and whatever else is out there or in here we with our 3 dimensional and very limited eyes, ears, noses are limited to.

Mind control through satellite, also try HAARP, frequency waves,micro waves, SSSS tech -it's here and being used to make the entire population on planet earth compliant (possibly)





Very interesting site anyone interested in this thread might want to check out: www.montalk.net...

reply to post by NaziCensorsDropDead


Thanks for the pat on the back *so to speak*..
If I do get knocked off lol,,, (I know it's NOT funny, but tis better to laugh than cry.)
........I know /feel I'll be in a far better place!!

Advise everyone to read that testimonial link previously posted!

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by SeekerLou

 

See my previous replies here on this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

and you might want to check out this site; montalk.net

Because I do not wish to go against the long quoting external texts rule on ATS I highly suggest you read this article: eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.com...

It's called, "Fuk U Shima" and I will give you a simple three paragraphs to get you started,

This agenda is being carried out on every level and in every way conceivable — through nanotechnology, genetic engineering, chem-trail spraying, electronic mind control, mass media propaganda, weather modification, deforestation, killing of the seas and oceans (e.g., think British Petroleum in the Gulf of Mexico), radioactive contamination (think Chernobyl and Fukushima, Japan), and more.

The Fortune 500 companies, the Pentagon, Wall Street, the Big Banks, the USA government and other major governments, espionage and spy agencies, criminal syndicates, the major religions, the formal “educational” system and other large institutions are all an integral part of this Machine and its deadly rampage.
It uses technology and people as its appendages. It is infinitely resourceful and devious and it will not stop coming.

The only way out of this situation for us is to go in. A conventional uprising against tyranny is not sufficient to definitively thwart this Machine. Such uprisings are merely fuel for its agenda of total conquest.

Source and rest of article: eventhorizonchronicle.blogspot.com...

Again as previously stated, this all sounds quite mad, insane and demented but than again, I only list this as a possiblity not actual fact because I am willing to admit I cannot prove what is reality and what is fantasy, what is genius and what is insane.

Personally, I believe it is possible (notice I did not say absolutely) that we as a species have been attacked from many different angles by possibly (there is that word again) not just one group from one place, here we're talking like the comedy movie, "Men In Black", beings from other worlds, both 3 dimensional and possibly other dimensions, parallel worlds, multiverses and whatever else is out there or in here we with our 3 dimensional and very limited eyes, ears, noses are limited to.

Mind control through satellite, also try HAARP, frequency waves,micro waves, SSSS tech -it's here and being used to make the entire population on planet earth compliant (possibly)

Very interesting site anyone interested in this thread might want to check out: www.montalk.net...

edit on 26-6-2011 by ofhumandescent because: added last video

Thanks for your contribution to the thread : Much appreciated!! Will check out those links. I've researched the majority of this stuff and have formed my opinion: It sure seems plausible/most likely to me that this crap IS happening !..

What would be some countermeasures to this type tech anyway or should this be for another thread, (in addition to prayer!) at the risk of going off topic here? I agree, in that there are so many facets to what is going on.

Also to add, I think that the majority of these aliens are demons! May be they tptb have been working with them...

You can view my opinion on this thread if interested re Satan and his agenda: : www.abovetopsecret.com...

I am constantly picking up on thoughts that are not mine. I also note that I will get an odd thought and then somehow I begin to see threads and articles talking about the very subject that ran through my mind.

I have since cut off the TV, stopped all music, and I am very careful not to allow myself too many youtube videos.

Call me paranoid, I really am not, I never had the sense of fear that others have based on the fact that I have always had the ability to see the worst and darkest depths of despair; I attribute this to being a Scorpio, as it is a talent to see Death for what it is.

I no longer drink. I no longer smoke.

Clarity of thought is so important, but it comes with a price!

Originally posted by Greensage
I am constantly picking up on thoughts that are not mine. I also note that I will get an odd thought and then somehow I begin to see threads and articles talking about the very subject that ran through my mind.

I have since cut off the TV, stopped all music, and I am very careful not to allow myself too many youtube videos.

Call me paranoid, I really am not, I never had the sense of fear that others have based on the fact that I have always had the ability to see the worst and darkest depths of despair; I attribute this to being a Scorpio, as it is a talent to see Death for what it is.

I no longer drink. I no longer smoke.

Clarity of thought is so important, but it comes with a price!

Hi Green
Thanks for sharing . Sounds to me like you have made the right choice in turning TV off, etc.. I wouldn't say paranoid at all I say Better safe than sorry!!

I wonder sometime, how would we even know if a thought is actually OUR thought? Sometimes it may would be obvious, but what about all other thoughts? How would one know? For programs are programs! and they can run in the background without one being aware!

reply to post by SeekerLou


Not wanting to be trolled or picked on the wussy that I am, I too agree with and strongly suspect that this frap is also happening.

How to fight it is here:

montalk.net » 30 July 04
This is a summary of what I have learned from my encounters with inner and outer demons. Let this text be food for thought and don’t take my word for anything… but do customize what you read here to fit your own experience.

First, understand that you only experience what you need or choose to experience, and what you need to experience was chosen by you at some other time or level of being. Therefore, you are in some way responsible for all that happens to you, whether you created it or allowed it. The attacks you receive ultimately serve to teach you lessons, and how successfully you defend against these attacks determines how easily you learn your lesson. Learning a lesson before the experience often voids the necessity of having to experience it.

Second, in the absolute sense the Matrix Control System serves to accelerate your spiritual growth, and although its agents see you as the enemy, know that you can utilize them as teachers. You do not need to seek them out, for they will find you as you progress in your learning path. Most importantly, know that you will never be given anything you cannot choose to handle successfully.

Now, the likelihood of an attack depends upon two factors:

a) their desire to attack – the attention you garner
b) their ability to attack – the weakness of your defense

Having strong defenses and lowering your profile as a target reduce the probability of being attacked.

Strong defenses consist of the following:

1) being aware of your internal weaknesses and countering or watching them closely—emotional buttons, ego flaws, lack of knowledge and false assumptions, resentment and envy, bias and prejudice against the bitter truth, emotional dependency upon sources of authority, blindspots in your awareness, etc…

2) being aware of your external weaknesses and countering or watching them closely—people you depend upon or who depend upon you, who can become unwitting tools of attack via their weaknesses being exploited; aspects of your finances and business which can be sabotaged and thus lead to a cascading series of problems; potential health weaknesses you may have which can be flared up in an attack to wear you down; physical and mechanical problems like car accidents and malfunction, slipping and falling on something to hurt yourself, missing appointments due to various odd mishaps delaying you; and if all that doesn’t work, then the people you care for are attacked in these same areas which necessarily gets you involved.

3) being resolute and wise in your decisions—they attack mainly to bias the decisions you haven’t yet made, and to reinforce the wrong decisions you make. This has to do with the Law of Freewill and the STS (negative path) preference to win by their target’s own will to submit. So prior to making the right choice, you may be attacked to keep you from making it. But once you make it, since any further attacks may only confirm for you that you’ve made the right choice, so they tend to stop immediately once that learning plateau has been reached. If you make the wrong choice, they then attack you even harder to make you think you’ve made the right one.

If you are wishy washy, agnostic, and conservative in your decision making, perhaps because you’re afraid of making mistakes or being definitive, you will receive constant attacks because you’re straddling the fence and that is where you’re most easily tipped over to either side by the least amount of force. STS attacks the weakest link at its weakest moment, and being irresolute about your decisions creates just such an opportunity for them. It is better to make a firm decision and be wrong (as then the results show that you have been wrong and you can easily reverse the mistake) than to fear ever being wrong and thus become wishy washy (which makes you uncertain of everything and totally undisciplined in your progress).

Lowering your profile as a target consists of these:

1) stopping whatever you’re doing that makes you a threat—not a good option, as that defeats the very purpose of your existence. Any step forward toward independence for yourself and others will naturally shine the spotlight upon you. To reduce attack, don’t cower in the spotlight and return to your former self, but rather move forward with ever increasing strength of your defenses. Gaining knowledge and applying it naturally ups your defenses – so the very knowledge that makes you a target can protect you against succumbing to attacks. Those who hoard knowledge without taking it seriously enough to apply in life get all the targeting that comes with great knowledge, but possess only half the protection, so they get eliminated pretty quickly.

2) seeking to learn from all you experience—if you are open to learning from your experiences, then the more they try to attack you, the more knowledgeable you become. They take a gamble every time they attack – either they win and you become weak, or they lose and you become stronger. It’s your choice. Being egotistical psychopaths prone to wishful thinking about their skill and prowess, they always attack and usually end up shooting themselves in the foot when they attack a strong target.

3) keeping up a positive emotional frequency—if you are spazzy, frightful, and fearful, you become a reaction machine, one with buttons so sensitive it takes a simple “boo” to get you to splurge all your emotional energy into your etheric environment which STS forces lap up with delight and then use to hack into your reality more easily next time. You become a puppet they can easily control, and they will do their best to use your reactive condition to their advantage.

Additionally, although 4D STS forces can see beyond linear time and analyze our probable futures and pasts, their perception range is limited due to the narrow spectrum of their soul frequencies. Thus they can only see and predict that which resides within their choice to perceive. If you are in a negative mindset or mood, your probable future is within that narrow spectrum, or alternately, you resonate with the sector of hyperdimensional reality that is their territory. In that case, they can more easily screw with you, predict what you’re going to do next, and thus control you. The solution is to stay out of their probability-detection-range by having composure, being active rather than reactive, and generally keeping up a positive emotional state.

So keeping up your emotional frequency isn’t about shielding yourself from the truth (because you can gain knowledge and stay positive if you choose), but rather it’s a necessary tactical method when involved in a hyperdimensional ambush. Consider it donning your metaphysical body armor and camouflage.

4) having foresight, awareness, and knowledge—this makes you less predictable. The more knowledge you have, the more freewill you have, the more choices you can make because you’re aware of those choices, and the harder it is for them to calculate what you will do next. Being unpredictable makes them less efficient in their attack because they must spread their resources to account for a wider range of probable weaknesses.

Some general tips about attacks:

Source and rest of article: montalk.net...

I've contacted Tom, the owner of this site and he appears to be very honest, intellegent and reality based, IMO.

Very good site because he seems to have a very sharp perception of what is going on.

Yes we (I suspect) are at war and have been ever since we climbed or were spilled out of the gene splicer.........but that's another whole thread.

Again, I don't think warfare of the future, with societies or civilizations that are thousands maybe millions of years ahead of us are going to be overt war - too messy and always leaves the vanquished with a "retaliation" minset that is even possibly carried over via genetic memory (like salmon that spawn exactly where their parents did not even knowing their parents).

Some good books to read I highly suggest:

 Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs
 The Threat by David Jacobs
 Slave Species of God by Michael Tellinger
 Tales From The Time Loop, Human Race Get Off Your Knees and Global Conspiracy by David Icke
 Song of the Greys and Grey Aliens and the Harvesting of Human Souls by Nigel Kerner
 Any books by Richard Dolan (There are 3 UFO'S And The Security State I & II and A.D. After Disclosure)
 Forbidden Gates: How Genetics, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence, Synthetic Biology, Nanotechnology, and Human Enhancement Herald The Dawn Of TechnoDimensional Spiritual Warfare - by Thomas & Nina Horn
 Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot
 Hidden In Plain Sight by Richard Sauder
 63 Documents the Government Doesn't Want You to Read by Jesse Ventura

Thank you for this thread. I totally believe what you have posted. I am suspicious of cable TV.... and also even if people don't have cable everything is digital with converter boxes that the government provided.

Am I way out in left field?.....but I also think there is mind control going on with cable TV....and regular TV....and I don't just mean the ads etc.

The reason I believe this is because a few years ago I was in my living room going through some paperwork at my desk and had the TV on....had cable at the time. There was some movie on...then all of a sudden....an image came on of a man sitting in a chair staring directly at me...this was not part of the movie and was not a commercial....and as I moved around in front of the TV his eyes followed me...this went on for about 5 minutes..then the screen returned to normal and the movie came back on.

I know this sounds a bit (out there) but it really did happen.

reply to post by caladonea


That sounds like you "touched base" with a remote viewer; I wonder if he suddenly realized you saw him! I bet he pooped his remote viewing pants! LOL

Awesome thought that now they got a small taste of their own medicine!

reply to post by ofhumandescent


Hey ofhuman,
Thanks for your contribution to the thread! Much appreciated. Have just read the majority of your links and listened to the vids. Very interesting & thought provoking... Hopefully a lot of folks will put on their thinking caps and remove those rose colored glasses. We're "taken" more than one realizes. (Not meaning abducted lol...I'm meaning taken as used, manipulated and deceived !)

Will have to check the book recommendations as well...
Again, thanks again so much!

reply to post by caladonea


Your welcome Cal, and thanks for sharing.
wow I don't doubt your experience at all! My eyes became WIDE open after watching the movie "Enemy of the State" . Delved into this subject matter , so I believe you! I can only imagine how you felt. I've found that it's best to have more than one witness .... but then yet again, folk still won't believe until they have their own experience!

Now I sit in front of my tv. Are they watching me? The paranoia is setting in ..
Nah jk... I have NO FEAR!
...I like to use Cartmans phrase (to them)!

There is always more than meets the eye if one just searches out a matter. The truth will reveal itself eventually.

Agree with green lol! You got to remote view them .Happy they blew their cover !