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As protesters continue to run riot in the streets, economists are warning that the whole of Europe and by extension, the rest of the world could face financial armageddon should Greece default on its debt, in the absence of a second bailout.
Financial experts are warning of a ‘Lehman Moment’ as the European markets are beginning to show signs of unraveling in the wake of the Greek crisis.
Originally posted by stephinrazin
I think there is a bunch of fear mongering going on. The real danger is for the banking elite. What happens if the Greeks overthrow their government, and in doing so stiff the bankers. It will show the world that the people can remove the burden of financial servitude, and the banks can be challenged.
Of course I strongly doubt this will happen. A military coup that would install another ruler sympathetic to the banking cartels is more likely.
If the Greeks do show the World that a people can free themselves the World will literally change overnight.
Originally posted by The Old American
OK, while I like to think sometimes that I know everything, I'm big enough to admit that I don't. Can someone here tell my why Greece matters? Are they relevant in some esoteric way that I'm missing? Is there a shortage of extra-virgin olive oil or something? European economics is not my strong point.
/TOA
Just in time for the end of QE2, when the US needs every possible foreign buyer of US debt to step up to the plate, we get confirmation that yet another major foreign central bank has decided to not only not add to its US debt holdings, but to actively sell US Treasurys. The WSJ reports that "Russia will likely continue lowering its U.S. debt holdings as Washington struggles to contain a budget deficit and bolster a tepid economic recovery, a top aide to President Dmitry Medvedev said Saturday. "The share of our portfolio in U.S. instruments has gone down and probably will go down further," said Arkady Dvorkovich, chief economic aide to the president, told Dow Jones in an interview on the sidelines of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum." Well, with Russia out, at least we have China and Japan continuing to buy US debt.... Oh wait, China is contemplating dumping two thirds of its debt you say? And the biggest buyer of Japanese bonds is now in the process of selling Japanese bonds in the open market for the first time (so not really in the market of US bonds). Well, surely US households will step up to the plate. After all they all have so much "cash on the sidelines" courtesy of the RecoveryTM ©® that they can't wait to dump it all into paper yielding less than 3% a year, and has negative real rates of return. Wait, what's that: according to the Fed, in Q1 US "households" sold $1.1 trillion annualized in Treasurys to the Fed? So, let's get this straight: China, Japan, and now very much openly Russia, the three countries with the largest financial reserves in the world, are threatening, if not already dumping US bonds, just in time for US households to sell their holdings of US paper to Brian Sack. And this is happening 2 weeks before QE2 ends... Um... Are we and Bill Gross (and certainly not Morgan Stanley) the only ones to see a problem with this?
According to the Bank for International Settlements, Spanish banks currently hold $600 million in Greek debt, Italian banks hold $2.6 billion, UK banks hold $3.2 billion, French banks hold $19.8 billion, German banks hold $26.3 billion and other Eurozone countries hold a combined total of around $15.7 billion in Greek debt.
US banks also hold $1.8 billion in Greek debt and Japanese banks hold $500 million in Greek debt.
Originally posted by surrealist
reply to post by The Old American
You might like to have a look at the following link for further information to your query:
What Happens if Greece Defaults?
This parade of horribles does not portend the end of the world. The sun will rise the day in the event Greece defaults. And it will rise the next day, and the next. People will still fall in love, get married, have children, make friends, and find innovative ways to cope with a world that seems a little less safe than it did a few months ago.
Eventually, someone, somewhere, will make a fortune by correctly calling the inevitable economic recovery.
Originally posted by stephinrazin
I think there is a bunch of fear mongering going on. The real danger is for the banking elite. What happens if the Greeks overthrow their government, and in doing so stiff the bankers. It will show the world that the people can remove the burden of financial servitude, and the banks can be challenged.
Of course I strongly doubt this will happen. A military coup that would install another ruler sympathetic to the banking cartels is more likely.
If the Greeks do show the World that a people can free themselves the World will literally change overnight.