weather modifacation does exist...

just watch this video...

Originally posted by baddmove
just watch this video...

No, I wont.
I'm not going to spent ten minutes watching a youtube video if you wont spend 30 seconds typing up some kind of a summary of whats in it.

You are expected to give your opinion of the video, and some information on it. Secondly, noone denies it is possible. Its not a secret. So no star, no flag.

Originally posted by chancemusky
You are expected to give your opinion of the video, and some information on it. Secondly, noone denies it is possible. Its not a secret. So no star, no flag.

Yeah its actually against ATS rules to just post a youtube video, without explaining something about it that is relevant. These videos tend to be a bunch of rehashed and previously debunked nonsense, on the continuous merry go round of video and photos that they post

What a waste of a thread.
Basically "Hey watch this video!" and nothing more.
No feedback, commentary, or anything...

using mobile ats all i see is a one liner. no video atleast on my phone...


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weather modifacation does exist

Welcome back to civilization.

How long did you say you were gone again?

Dont watch it guys, you might Rick Rolled
But the title says it, got to agree with that,

weather modifications is not a dream

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Watched the video, and it was great. Simple to understand,and to the point. thanks for sharing

Well I had nothing to do for 10 minutes so I watched it.

1/ the guts of it amounts to weather modification exists - in the form of cloud seeding, dating back to Operation Cirrus in 1947, through UK & USA operations in 1950's, the operations in Vietnam until 1972 - so statements of the bleedin' obvious.

Also lots of begging the question - the hurricane seeded in 1947 hit land and did a fair bit of damage, some people blamed it on he seeding, so he calls he seeding a disaster - without actually establishing that it caused anything at all.

Insofar as these have been used in warfare (Vietnam), and have been studied by defence departments they constitute "Weather weapons" and "weather warfare" and "denier extremists" deny it all.

Which of course we do not on here at least.

So more-or-less yet another chemmie saying that cloud seeding proves chemtrails

2/ There is also mention at the end of the 1997 US DoD briefing by Cohen saying other can cause earthquakes, modify weather, etc, through use of electromagnetic waves.

Infamously in this instance Cohen said that some countries were researching some strange technology and then went on to say that :"Others can cause...etc"

Debunkers look at the context and say it's a slip of the tongue and there's no other evidence to substantiate it.

Believers say it's proof positive of the effects of HAARP, etc., and yes it was a slip of the tongue......

3/ He spends a couple of minutes on Tesla's earthquake machine, comments on the myth buster episode and says "keep it in mind that this was done 100 years ago - something to keep in mind for the rest of this episode".....and thn doesnt' bother to say anything further about it in the "programme".

4/ He promises to provide all links to relevant info and fails to do so.

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It was a short video that had enough proof ,to simply state that weather modification can and does exist.

If you want to sit there and criticize the info ,and say there isn't enough proof,well..you're just looking for something to debunk.

He obviously didn't use all the resources of info out there....and by adding what Nikola worked on with emv ,over a 100 years ago ,he's basically saying,"what can they do NOW", considering the advancements of technology in the last 100 years.

You really don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that they have the capabilities, and that they have been doing it for some time. There is a lot of info out there on this stuff.

Perhaps there was additional info (like links) that went with it, but wasn't included in that video.

Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

It was a short video that had enough proof ,to simply state that weather modification can and does exist.

If you want to sit there and criticize the info ,and say there isn't enough proof,well..you're just looking for something to debunk.

He obviously didn't use all the resources of info out there....and by adding what Nikola worked on with emv ,over a 100 years ago ,he's basically saying,"what can they do NOW", considering the advancements of technology in the last 100 years.

You really don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that they have the capabilities, and that they have been doing it for some time. There is a lot of info out there on this stuff.

Perhaps there was additional info (like links) that went with it, but wasn't included in that video.

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I don't think there is a single person on this website that would deny the existence of weather modification. You will probably find quite a few that will argue against cloud seeding causing a hurricane though.

If the video claims that the seeding caused the hurricane without offering any evidence it deserves to be questioned.


I thought the motto of this website was 'deny ignorance'. Claiming the cloud seeding caused a hurricane and disaster without backing up those claims seems pretty ignorant to me.

Yes, weather modification exists. Just a selection of recent popular news stories on the subject, from around the world:

China 2011: Artificial rain supplies dry up

Thailand 2010: Gov't to conduct artificial rainmaking operations to ease drought in N Thailand

Philippines 2010: Cloud-seeding over Angat continues

Russia 2010: Russian appeal of 'weather control'

Australia 2009: Hydro's cloud seeding 'ineffective'

China 2009: Beijing's first snow of season 'artificially induced'

USA 2009: Cloud seeding aims to increase Winter Park snowfall

India 2009: Decks cleared for cloud seeding in Marathwada

And from my friend Tom C in 2009: Can we really control the weather?

Big business, widespread, and as secret as the name of the capital city of France.


Edit: there have been suggestions that massive cloud seeding operations might help reduce the ferocity of a hurricane. It's impossibe for it to cause one to form. In the same way that pouring water on a burning bush may put out a fire, but it won't cause the fire to start

since 1961, it became common for planes to seed clouds everywhere here and there, for rain on wildfires, crops, etc.

Makes sense that in 50 yrs, they have become more advanced from creating rain, to creating... Tornados, ie 150 in one day.

Whats next??

Weather modification was used successfully in Viet Nam to hinder and impede the movement of personnel and material from North Vietnam to South Vietnam,

Between 1949 and 1978, China Lake developed concepts, techniques, and hardware that were successfully used in hurricane abatement, fog control, and drought relief. Military application of this technology was demonstrated in 1966 when Project Popeye was conducted to enhance rainfall to help interdict traffic on the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
www.thelivingmoon.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

Old news and covered on ATS before.

If you look at the location on my profile you will see where i know if this from.

From HAARP website

Active ionospheric research facilities like HAARP attempt to produce small temporary changes in a limited region directly over the facility which, in no way, compare to the worldwide events frequently caused by the sun. But the extraordinary suite of sensitive observational instruments installed at observatories like HAARP permit a detailed and comprehensive correlation with the induced effects, resulting in new insights into the ways the ionosphere responds to a much wider variety of natural conditions.

Does anyone else have this idea -- ?

HAARP able to influence the weather over a certain geo-region (lets make a snowstorm in sahara for e.g)
Have a look at its main page, look for "Irregularities", what kind and scope of "irregularities" ?
now thats a big question.

To influence further the effect, the cloud needed to be seeded first, thus the chemtrail.
Once the chemtrail is setup/sprayed, it will become the receptor and HAARP is easy to perform since the receptor (chemtrail) is already there to become as a weather weapon.

HAARP Main Page

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In 1969 we landed on the Moon.

It makes sense that we now all live on other planets and have colonised half the galaxy

On the other hand, try learning about the subject - we may indeed have started trying to seed clouds in the 1950s but even today there is much doubt as to whether it really makes any difference. Back in the 1950s we were driving cars and today we still drive cars. Back in the 1950s we were trying to find a cure for cancer. And today we're still trying to find a cure for cancer. Back in the 1950s we were trying to make it rain. And today we're still trying to make it rain.

As for making tornadoes, they are to rain making what a cup cake is to a hyperspace rocket.

Originally posted by USABadNews

Does anyone else have this idea -- ?

Er, no. And how you get that idea from the text you quoted I will never know.

What has learning about the ionosphere got to do with the weather? Let alone making it snow in the Sahara (which it does do occasionally)? I'm guessing you didn't learn much about the weather (or the atmosphere in general) at school and haven't bothered redressing your ignorance since? Try it. You may learn something useful Meteorology books are usually in the science section at your local library.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
2/ There is also mention at the end of the 1997 US DoD briefing by Cohen saying other can cause earthquakes, modify weather, etc, through use of electromagnetic waves.

Infamously in this instance Cohen said that some countries were researching some strange technology and then went on to say that :"Others can cause...etc"

Debunkers look at the context and say it's a slip of the tongue and there's no other evidence to substantiate it.

Believers say it's proof positive of the effects of HAARP, etc., and yes it was a slip of the tongue......

It was not at the end of a briefing, it was in the middle of an informal Q&A session at a conference at the university of Georgia.

Cohen was talking about the time and resources wasted by false or imaginary terrorist threats, and for examples he listed some speculative threats by Alvin Toffler, a futurist writer.

For full details, see.

metabunk.org...

Weather modification definitely does exist and the corporation I work for employs experts who do this for a living. There's absolutely nothing sinister or secret about what they do which is seeding clouds to enhance rainfall in particular areas when it's needed and when the conditions are just right for it. There's quite a bit of science required in predicting when the right clouds will be at the right altitude at the right temperature and the wind blowing the clouds in the direction of the area in need of rain which means that for a large part of every year there's no point in even attempting it IE it's very seasonal work.