What iF SOME of the people with Capgras Syndrome are Telling the Truth?

Hi everyone,

This may be off the wall to some but I came across an article back in the late 90's on some weird but true news site. It said that an armed man barged in on a news station with a letter, demanding it to be read. He wanted the world to know that people's loved ones were being replaced with replicas. It went on to explain the Capgras Syndrome, which was the first time I had ever heard of it. Very ''crazy'' stuff. Sorry for the pun but...wow. To this day I can not find that article. Does anyone remember this?

Anywho... after reading here at ATS... lol...my paranoia is making me think that maybe that man isn't so crazy afterall.

What if they just ''labeled'' him crazy?

For those not familiar with Capgras Delusion... See wiki's definition: en.wikipedia.org...

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Never heard of this one! But then again I havent looked...

Im on it! What if it is true? What if the person diagnosed with capgras was actually the clone?

Hmmmm

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Then folks are being snatched up and nobody will know until they are ready to attack.
I would know if my wife had been snatched up.

Daaaaaamn, my conspiracy senses are tingling.
What if indeed!

I have always held that people who "suffer" from "schitsophrenia" are able to see/hear into dimensions that the rest of us are blissfully unaware of.
I can only imagine what that would do to you.

So, if you were fully aware that your loved one had been replaced by an exact copy......what in the HELL are you supposed to say???
Who in the HELL are you supposed to confide in???

The reason I would lean more to the side of these people actually being crazy is.......

A sane person that is confronted with an "insane" reality would have the wherewithall to keep his mouth shut
because he knows how insane he would sound.

make sense?

Pretty interesting. I've never heard about it before.

en.wikipedia.org...

neuro.psychiatryonline.org...

bjp.rcpsych.org...

I never saw an article on this, but I have definitely come across some people where I live that are convinced that malevolent ETs are replacing people with replicas. He sounded absolutely frantic, in retrospect. Kept telling me to check out this antenna tower on top of a certain building that he said was being used by the ETs or something...

Well this is a conspiracy website so I think I'll look back in my email records and see if I can find the messages he sent me.

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this is a legitimate and rare occurrence, and has been the impetus of at least 4-5 movies from the 1950s on. the human mind is a very scary place. we should all be thankful for good mental health; a completely different world is just a car accident or trip down the stairs away.

Okay I found the guy. Emailed me 2.5 years ago, I can't believe I still have it. There's a tremendous amount of information here, I hope it's not too ridiculous to post it. I don't have an online article to source, since it's straight from my email. But here goes - this might serve to be some starting ground for us to investigate.

Ok if your in Portland look at the front of the Mark O Hatfield top 1/2 concrete cilinder with metal ring around it now go to 4th and mill sw look back of half cilinder at the same building what do you see [gold panels]on the back its the same as FERMI...
CIA AND NSA INVOLVED IN FEDERAL GRAFT AT DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION IN SAN FRANCISCO
THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND SOME OF IT HAS BEEN REPEATED ALL OF THIS IS SITTING WITH MY ATTORNEYS AND MORE AND MORE INFORMATION IS COMING OUT EVERY DAY, A LOT OF YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW SOME I GUARANTEE YOU DON’T LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE SECTION DESCRIBING A CONSPIRACY HAPPENING AT THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION AND WATCH THE LINKS AFTER ALSO LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOTES ON ALIENS, ALSO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING THAT’S BEEN DONE SINCE 911. SINCERELY KEVIN RUSH
THERE IS A LOT OF INFO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT ALL

Things to look at

This you can not ignore
Try and get a screen shot, jpeg, camera phone image, print it try and copy and send it you wont be able to send it any way electronically or otherwise
Goggle earth and key in the key words Mark O Hatfield building 3RD and Salmon SW Portland Or. look at the top left corner of the roof of the building do you know what that is, Its an ION accelerator just like 3 miles down below at Fermi lab outside Chicago ill, these buildings are in every major city on the planet and do you know why, these buildings are Trojan Horses, there is an alien agenda taking place, You can be replaced, literally replaced, that ION accelerator is a portal "star gate technology" you get kidnapped and replaced and no one knows your missing, you end up in one of 100s of new penitentiaries across the planet and they take on your life. I know about this because the CIA murdered my family.
my guess is that you may know some of this
also look at this

If you have a hard time wrapping your head around this take a look at these

Watch these first then come back and read all of this, sorry for mixture of information it’s a lot all at once I know, and this is extremely personal for me.
Harrp
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Reagan
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Disclosure Project
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Part 1 OUTLINE TO TERMS AND COMMENTS

WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THE CIA WANTED TO SET ME UP TO LOOK LIKE I AM A LEADER OF SOME BOGUS TERRORIST GROUP CALLED THE PROLETARIATS ITS TIME TO TELL THE WORLD
FORWARD THIS INFORMATION TO EVERYONE, THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT ALL OVER THE PLANET THESE BASTARDS CAN REPLICATE EACH AND EVERYONE OF US PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ ALL OF THIS, YOU MAY FIND SOME HARD TO BELIEVE HOWEVER THE CIA AND NSA HAVE RUINED MY LIFE AND IN THE PROCESS I LEARNED ALOT,ENCLOSED IS A LIST OF MANY OF THE BASTARDS FROM THOSE 2 AGENCY’S AND THE PROOF OF AN ALIEN TAKE OVER IS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY BUILT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Included in this document is but not limited to
Aa. Some definitions which will be necessary to understand but not mandatory to get it.


A. An outline of a federal graft conspiracy happening at the Dept of immigration in San Francisco and list of federal officials from the C.I.A. and N.S.A. and Dept. of immigration involved and how these bastards have messed with my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

B. Proof of an alien agenda taking place, is in there infrastructure, agenda and how to tell them from us which will be included in this document.

C. Once you verify the people involved in the federal graft confidence game happening at Department of Immigration and the infrastructure, which has already been built you, will become painfully aware that this information is all true.

Optional ways to verify this information: The text has been formatted so as to add emphasis, and once you look at all of this perhaps you will put it together

I was never into conspiracies or UFOs or any other kind of government cover-ups until the CIA murdered my family in a conspiracy to set up large families for immigration fraud, before 1992 I was an artist and photographer in San Francisco and just minding my own business here’s some of my work

www.creativeconnections2000.com...

Then I got selected for a heinous crime and my whole life changed.
IN THE UNITED STATES WHEN CONVICTED OF IMMIGRATION FRAUD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE EVERYTHING, WHEN THE CIA AND THE NSA WORK IN COLLUSION TO SET UP LARGE AMERICAN FAMILIES AND REPLACES THESE PEOPLE WITH EXTRA-TERESTRIALS THEN ERASES THEM STEALING BILLIONS ITS TIME TO TELL THE WORLD. WHEN THERE IS A HOSTILE TAKE OVER BY AN ALIEN RACE THAT CAN REPLICATE EACH AND EVERYONE OF US ITS TIME TO TAKE IT TO THE STREETS TELL EVERYONE…………………………………………

THIS IS A ROUGH DRAFT HOW EVER THE NAMES OF CIA AND NSA OFFICIALS ARE TRUE AND WHAT THEY DID TO ME IS TRUE AND THE TECHNOLOGY EVERY ONE IS MISSING IS VISIBLE!!!

DID YOU KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL GOV’T, THAT IS TO SAY THE CIA AND THE NSA KNOWS ABOUT 58 DIFFERENT SPECIES OF ALIEN LIFE SPREAD OUT ON OVER 7000 PLANETS 57 RACES OF WHICH ARE FRIENDLY 1 WHICH IS RUTHLESS AND EVIL AND IS HERE NOW. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE PROOF OF THIS IS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN EVERY MAJOR CITY ON THE GLOBE.

DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ALIEN AGENDA AND THAT ALIENS ARE HERE TO DESTROY US.
HOW DO I KNOW THE CIA MURDERED MY FAMILY AND IN THE MIDST OF A CONSPIRACY HAPPENING AT THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION I FOUND OUT THAT WE ARE ALL BEING SET UP.


KEEP IN MIND THAT THE INTERNET WAS DESIGNED BY THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY AND WAS GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC TO OPEN YOUR MAIL
GPS WAS CREATED FOR THE MILITARY AND NOW GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC TO WATCH WHERE YOU GO ITS IN YOUR LAP TOP, CELL PHONE AND, CAR.
DIGITAL TELEVISION IS THE ONE TECHNOLOGY WHERE YOU CAN LOOK BOTH WAYS AS LONG AS THERE IS A INTERNAL CAMERA BUILT INTO YOUR TV, WHICH GUESS WHAT THERE IS!

CHEMICAL TRAILS ARE BEING PUT INTO OUR ATMOSPHERE OVER MAJOR CITIES DAILY AND TRY AND STOP THEM OR FIND OUT ABOUT THEM, GOOD LUCK!

Question: If you knew you had information which would probably get you killed but that you could possibly help to save mankind would you put it out there?



READ THIS FIRST THEN WATCH THE LINKS



STARTING WITH COMMENTS BY PEOPLE WHO ARE DEFINITELY NOT LIKE US LIVING AMONGST US

COMMENTS:

MANY SAID “WE DON’T CARE, NO ONE IS GOING TO BELIEVE YOU”

1 said "Kevin your family is not your family anymore, they have been switched and nobody is going to believe you, and we will turn them against you."

5 people from different walks of life in different locations said “you will be here to the end”,

2 said “that there is one of them for every one of us”,

One said “before long it will seem like even the guy pumping your gas is involved”

STEVE NICHOLS: NSA…………… “IT’S A SECRET SOCIETY”

JOE BARBER : NSA………………… “THERE ARE NO REAL JOURNALISTS LEFT!”

JOHN THOMPSON : NSA………………………”THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOU, YOU KNOW TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

GEORGE YOUNG :NSA……………………….”WHEN THEY GET DONE BUILDING THESE NEW FEDERAL BUILDINGS IN EVERY MAJOR CITY THE NEXT STEP IS TO GET RID OF ALL THE UNDESIRABLES


I made the comment to some of them about the ION accelerators in our new federal buildings and that these buildings were portals and they all got terrified and defensive.
Kevin Flynn at Aqua Riva Restaurant put his head down and mumbled Oh #.


DAVID CARTER.......................................(ET living amongst us) HE TOLD ME THIS IN APRIL THIS YEAR.
“The next step is to crush the global economy and empty the Federal Reserve” all these companies supposedly crashing are really solvent and there Profit and loss statements are being changed to make it look like the international markets are crashing its all A global conspiracy.

THE NEXT STEP IS TO RAISE THE PRICE OF FUEL AND FOOD FROM 300 TO 500 PERCENT GLOBALLY.

AFTER THAT THE NEXT STEP IS TO START WORLD WAR III WITH RUSSIA .
THE NEXT STEP IS MARTIAL LAW TO GET RID OF THE HUMAN RACE.


then I received this from tallcoolone1 at you tube

“hello
It is funny that you seem to have figured us out. It doesn't matter to me. Nobody will believe you and soon you will be with us. Our plants need the protein.”

THEN I RECEIVED THIS FROM RATTLERUSSLERS AT YOU TUBE


I'm glad to have bumped into you.. Don't know where but it's good.

I promise you.. There will be pain and death and happiness all in the same day.
We will not be destroyed.

Some are chosen to know.

Don’t fear.

I live for this purpose and I'm protected....this means I have something to do..........

You are doing good work here I will pass this info on...

Thank you...........

Then I received this from the Watcher Files
Thanks for the e-mail, but this is old news for me. I've already lectured on this subject. We ARE being replaced.

Then I received this from Prankster Demon
Wrong species. 2012, you'll know the truth when it's too late.

Then I received this from-
1MrMoneyMan8
Go # off!!!!!!!!!

“One said we will outlast you or discredit you”

My comments this is a extremely loaded topic and there is a few who are extremely angry at my digging and prying



comments

Start of what I wrote and ending with there infrastructure

Just a few things that the CIA has done to me and continues to do



A. They killed all my relatives 2 years ago,

B. Wiped out my bank account in the amount of about $60,000.00.



C. Constant death threats, threats of being incarcerated, threats of being made permanently crazy, institutionalized and or being placed into a Chechnya prison not knowing who I am, and this is just a summary of what they continue to do daily.



D. They manipulated me into homelessness over and over again this would discredit me and keep me disheveled.

D1. Prevented me from getting decent gainful employment AND MESSED WITH EVERY JOB I GET.





E. They erased many of my records included but not limited to birth records, passport Records were deleted because they made me homeless in both Asia and Europe, high school and college records erased.

e. They broke my shoulder and knocked out my teeth then erased those medical records.
f. They had me believing I had cirrhosis of the liver, yet no cirrhosis then they erased those records.



F. They had things planted in my teeth by Dr. Franco Tarm DDS in San Francisco Ca. at Dr. Michael Hein’s office at 450 Sutter in San Francisco, what was planted in my teeth were partially removed by Dr. Sunberg in Portland Or. A mini microphone to hear everything id say, 2 metal grommets which were radio controlled to cause seizures, I Still have a small explosive and needle of potassium Cyanide and one of the grommets planted in my teeth. Dr Sunberg was paid off with a trip to Qatar to get the teeth away from me.



Murdered friends and killed any one who would get in the way of a Billion dollar federal graft scam happening at INS in San Francisco Ca.

And supposedly I am in two places at once yup two Kevin Rush’s identical in every way, in the process of there con I found out a whole lot more.



What I found out is that there is a secret society of Extra terrestrials living amongst us and they are slowly replacing all of us, so help me god I can prove it.



This letter is designed to scare you into the truth and make you take immediate steps. They can become us, that is to say for each one of us is one of them. You don’t have to take my word for this, as I will give you tangible proof to prove all of this and investigate. The reason I found out about this Alien Agenda is because I was suckered into a conspiracy happening at the Dept. of Immigration in San Francisco . Below is an outline of how the Conspiracy which has been happening at the Department of Immigration was supposed to work and, CIA and N.S.A. officials who were partaking in this con at INS, when I found out the CIA wanted to set me up to look as though I was the leader of some bogus terrorist organization called the proletariats’ I decided to come out with everything I learned and all the other cover ups I found out that they took part in. Most people can blame the CIA for this or for that, I can name them and identify them and prove there involvement in some of the most heinous cover-ups in modern history..


THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT A GLOBAL CONSPIRACY TO WIPE OUT THE HUMAN RACE by a hostile alien race..
IN America if convicted for Immigration Fraud the federal government takes everything, when the C.I.A. and N.S.A. work in collusion with Dept. of Immigration to murder, and they have the ability to replace people then erase these people and use Extra terrestrials who have the ability to become us to do this con, its time to tell the world, when I found out that millions have been replaced its time to take assertive action,


The proof is in the infrastructure already created, this infrastructure consists of:



A.100s of new penitentiaries’ being operated by the Dept. of homeland security,THESE PENETENTARIES ARE SUPPOSEDLY EMPTY BUT ARE filling up with 10s of thousands of kidnapped people not missing because there being replaced by an alien race, sounds crazy except I know what I am talking about please read on..



B. Fema camps i.e. DEATH CAMPS built like NAZI style concentration camps, these camps have 2 rows of chain link and razor wire fences 14 feet high, compounds and large incinerators built into them. They are located on rail lines and Halliburton and Halliburton subsidiaries’ constructed 300,000 rail cars with shackles built into them. You tube is one of the only places not yet censored take a look at this report by a civilian on the fema camps see you tube





C.The one piece of the puzzle is that on the tops of our new government buildings like the Mark o Hatfield in Portland Or. And 7th and Market in San Francisco have alien technology built into them. In the form of ION accelerators built on them, ION accelerators create mini black holes!!! PORTALS these buildings are Alien Processing Centers! These buildings are all over the planet in every major city ON THE PLANET!!!!!!!! SEE BELOW IN TO REGARDS TO ZOCOLO SQUARE .
The component can be identified by the half vertical CILINDRICIAL concrete item with the horizontal metal ring on the tops of these buildings exactly like Fermi lab outside of Chicago , Star gate technology exists. On the backs of these components is alien technology. THESE ARE ION ACCELERATORS, CAN BE IDENTIFIED BY MULTI STORY GLASS GOVT. BUILDINGS SIMILAR IN EVERY MAJOR CITY ON THE PLANET BUILT IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.

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THE CONSPIRACY TO SET UP LARGE FAMILIES AND ERASE 1000'S OF PEOPLE AT A TIME.

People directly involved in Federal graft in San Francisco at INS are but not limited to from the C.I.A.and N.S.A.

Everyone of these people are senior members of the C.I.A. and NSA, everyone of them are heroes and decorated and everyone of them are dirty for taking part in Federal Graft and collusion to set up and erase 1000s of people and have there properties stolen through bogus fraud cases at INS between 1988 and 1993 they erased 3000 people that I know of using the following formula and potentially a lot more.



1st a list of all a NSA and CIA bastards who have messed with my life

Veterans taxi in San Francisco CA. and Disc. Mufflers on 11 and Harrison were cover companies used by the CIA and NSA for money laundering and to set up US citizens and there families for fraud through INS.


LIST OF OFFICIALS FROM THE C.I.A.



Wayne Kirstein…………………………………………………Ret. CIA and Ret. Air force Col. And intelligence. Posed as my supposed x wife’s employer at Bobby Rabino’s in San Francisco in Fisherman’s wharf in 1993 and kept tabs on me when I worked at Original Joes in San Francisco, Wayne’s claim to fame was that he flew SR71 black bird and direct involvement at area 51 and was locked up with Sen. Mc Cain in the Hanoi Hilton during the Viet Nam war, He was also blown up in a car bomb in Beirut Lebanon posing as a priest. He and I would have long conversations regarding his involvement with the CIA, these people love talking about themselves, he’s retired now and lives in San Leandro Ca. He also convinced me not to go after the CIA for messing with my life from ‘92 to ‘94. You can verify his existence and connection with the C.I.A. area 51 involvement with setting up US citizens for fraud can be verified when the books at INS in San Francisco and General Accounting Office from 1988 to 93 they erased 3000 people using the following formula.

Bill Rafferty………………………………………………………..Still at the CIA in San Francisco, bill posed as a cab driver at veterans taxi in SF in 1992 and chased me to Thailand in 1994 along with Bruce Weiner Sr. Manipulated me into homelessness i.e. couldn’t get a flight no matter what I tried and then they erased any record that I was ever in Thailand yet I spent over 2 years over there.

Bruce Weiner Sr.…………………………………………………..Ret. CIA in San Francisco, Bruce chased me to Thailand and helped manipulate me into homelessness in Asia in 1994 he was also at Veterans TAXI in San Francisco.

Bruce Weiner Jr.…………………………………………………..Ret CIA was at veterans’ Taxi in SF in 92 and is now in Portland Or.

Arthur Cooper……………………………………………………Still at the CIA Arthur was part of the first crew that messed with my life in Thailand in 1994.

Dan Estes………………………………………………………....Still at the CIA ..Dan Estes was part of the first crew who messed with my life in Thailand in 1994 . He was in the Philippines running the CIA s connection with Philippines faction of al-Qaida posing as a schoolteacher it was his job to locate me in Bangkok and help me to lose it over there; these bastards have been messing with my life for a long time.



Rodney Cohen……………………………………………………Still at the CIA , he started the ball rolling by interviewing me at Veterans Taxi in San Francisco and found out that I met the CIA’s criteria to set large families up for fraud at Department of Immigration.

Phil Laclair………………………………………………………..Ret. CIA, Phil ran the show at Veterans’ Taxi in San Francisco a cover company and money laundering component for the CIA. He is still dispatching there. Bobby Harp and Maryanne Harp handled the distribution of stolen funds to people involved in Federal Graft happening at INS in SF as I watched them both make payouts to others involved in a con they had just completed in 1993 right before the FBI and local law enforcement agents raided Veterans Taxi and Discount mufflers and Breaks.

Larry Mitchell ……………………………………………………..Larry Mitchell ret. CIA is still at Veterans’ or Arrow cab and made sure that I met miss Roberta Mihaila Fetzeanu the key component of the fraud scam she was the ringer the one who would set up there intended victim.

Phil Feruchi,............................................................................................Ret CIA. Phil Feruchi was at veterans’ Taxi in San Francisco , Phil’s claim to fame is that he infiltrated the S.L.A., “Symbionese Liberation Army”during the Patty Hurst situation under the direction of the CIA Self Admitted CIA. Phil worked as a dispatcher at Veterans Taxi in 92 to 94 and just like one big club manipulated me in many ways.

Kim Banta…………………………………………………………..Ret CIA Mr. Kim Banta was at the Kent Hotel in Portland Or and is probably still there. He worked with Bill Rafferty during the Viet Nam conflict under Rafferty he ran troops illegally into Cambodia and tried over and over to make me loose it, plus Kim Banta knew all of the people directly involved in setting up US citizens at I.N.S.,Self admitted CIA.

Mike Shonefeld ……………………………………………………Ret CIA When I brought up the Rand think tanks Harrp program and Ammonium Carbon hydrate which can be used to change the weather and create Storms, and all the other uses for HARRP See here video.google.com... He got terrified and pissed off at the fact that I could not be gotten to, And that I could link him to the rest of these CIA bastards involved in Federal Graft at I.N.S , Not only screwing up there con that I have the potential to get all there books opened Mike Shonefeld was at Veterans Taxi in 1992 he can be found at the Stewart Hotel in Portland.

Frank Booth Boyce………………………………………………….Ret. CIA Frank was a labor leader who infiltrated and got close to M.L.K. during the sixty’s and helped set up Martin Luther King frank admitted there involvement ,CIA took King out because his following would become too strong and at the time, the CIA had also infiltrated the Black Panther Party.

Hunt………………………………………………………………….Ret. CIA This decrepit old man retired from the CIA now runs around giving lectures on the CIA and was posing as a cab driver at Veterans’ taxi in San Francisco CA. in 1992 also keeping tabs on me in Portland Or.

Frank Mullahey,…………………………………………..Ret. CIA messed with my life here in Portland Or. And gave me many death threats he also gave up the truth about Kennedy assignation and Robert Greer’s direct involvement in his assignation and the reason he was killed he was an absolute wealth of knowledge and you will see examples.



He also gave up the truth about MK Naomi, MK Naomi was started in 1968 a microbe put into the environment to reduce world population created at the center for disease control by Dr. GALLO www.virusmyth.com...

, that microbe was HIV given to Africa on the backs of polio vaccines and New York and San Francisco on the backs of Hepatitis Vaccines. Don’t believe that the federal govt. could do this, look at the Tuskegee experiment which they eventually admitted to but shows that govt. is capable of anything. See here

en.wikipedia.org...







The Kennedy assassination has everything to do with what’s happening today

What I found out about John F. Kennedy from Frank Xavier Mullahey ret. CIA.

JFK was killed by 3 shooters lee Harvey Oswald in the book depositary one in the grassy knoll and the thirds name was Robert Greer he was driving Kennedy’s car the reason Kennedy was killed was he wanted to introduce an Alien Race to the Human Race and they weren’t having it, you can see Robert Greer turn and shoot Kennedy in the Zap ruder film. Oswald and Robert Greer worked directly with the CIA. Unknown to most Americans is part 2 that Jack Ruby did not kill Lee Harvey Oswald his grave is empty, don’t believe it.








PROOF THE CIA IS COVERING UP THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION IS IN THIS FILM

The reason they killed Kennedy has everything to do with what’s happening today

watch a movie aired on OPB and PBS called the Ghost of Oswald by Robert Stone that version aired on PBS of the Zapruter film the window front and side were tinted so you can not see the action taking place in the front seats which is plain as day in the original version of the Zapruter film. You can see Greer turn and shoot Kennedy. This version should not to be confused with Oswald’s Ghost the public version of the same film. William Milton Cooper Ret. Navy Intelligence wrote about Robert Greer in his book behold a pale horse. Cooper was murdered for his continued messing with the CIA.



Confirmed By Frank Mullahey Retired C.I..A.

A. He gave up that Saddam Hussein is alive and well in US and his death and saber waving was all a con for the American people.

B. That Osama Bin Laden worked for the C.I.A and still does. and all of this crap is the direct con to set up the American people for an alien based new world order. Some thoughts from Pakistani citizens. www.youtube.com... and on the words of conspiracy as a topic www.youtube.com... .

C. Also gave up the fact that there are ION ACCELERATORS ON THE TOPS OF THESE BUILDINGS. And that these buildings are portals.

D. The real reason for gulf war 1 was that our military lease was up with Kuwait and they told us to get out, George Bush Sr. called Sad am and said invade it’s why we did not chase him!

E. The real reason the for the Oklahoma fed building being blown up is that it held all paper records for gulf war 1.

Frank Mullahey can be found in Portland Or. at the Stewart Hotel a dive hotel at Broadway and Burnside room 206. Frank Mullahey was also at veterans’ taxi in 1992 and had direct involvement in setting up US citizens for fraud.




John Hoffman …………………………………………………… Ret CIA, Naval Inelegance, and Naval Pilot is posing as a homeless man here in Portland Or. And knew all of the people listed above part of the “lets get Kevin to freak out Club” Then he said that he was here to check on me and report back.

James Rickman III…………………………………………………Self admitted Ret. C.I.A. was at Veterans taxi in San Francisco in 92 and can now be found at the Stewart hotel in Portland Or. also part of the “lets get Kevin to freak out Club He can be found at the Stewart Hotel here in Portland and is guilty as hell of this conspiracy to set up citizens for fraud.

Ron Morse ………………………………………………………Ron has been keeping tabs on me for about 1 month here in Portland posing as a homeless individual …………………………..Ron Morse’s background can be traced to the CIA

Rafo Boban………………………………………………………….Rafo Boban ironically told me about this con 3 years before I met Roberta and this nightmare started and unfortunately I did not believe anything he said yet it was all true he bragged about portraying himself as my wife’s uncle in court and made $20,000 for a days work back in 1988, later I realized he was talking about my family when Rafo told me about this con he said Norman Young worked NSA, CIA, INS and that Norman Young was married to a federal judge for INS and that they were using Extra Terrestrials to do cons to wipe out large families for Immigration Fraud, I did not believe it at all, and it was all true, He can be found in San Mateo CA .



From the N.S.A.

Who are the N..S.A. THEY ARE THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY BETTER KNOWN AS NO SUCH AGENCY and what do they do, they manage Harrp for one thing and whats Harrp?

Supposedly a weather monitoring service Harrp actually is used for

A. manipulation of weather

B. Force field around our planet: why? Because there is an interstellar war going on.

C. magnetically creating earthquakes. Proof is in Sichuan China .

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D. MIND control COMES NEXT



THE NSA ALSO CREATED THE INTERNET AND ARE MONITORING ALL TRANSMITIONS

ONE OF MANY EXPLANATIONS OF HARRP

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Clintin tells about mind control

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FROM THE N.S.A. INVOLVED IN FEDERAL GRAFT AND ERASING 1000s OF PEOPLE “PROPERTIES STOLEN THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION.



Joe Barber…………………………………………………………Self admitted ret. from the NSA Joe was at MSC south a homeless shelter in San Francisco CA. where they attempted to break me down this took place from 2005 to 06 Joe can probably be found on his Yacht it was parked at Pier ONE in San Francisco in Aug. of 2006.

George Young………………………………………………………..Ret. NSA George portrayed himself as a friend he was at MSC south 2 years ago and he was also at Veterans taxi in 92, George told me the truth about the new fed buildings. He can be found in San Francisco posing as a concierge at MACYS.

Steve Nichols………………………………………………………….Ret NSA, Steve Nichols was at Veterans taxi in 1992 then later at Jakes crawfish in Portland on a almost daily basis for the last two years, Steve gave up the fact that it was a secret society and also said who are you going to go to we already control everything, in fact the entire staff at Jakes crawfish was part of this secret society, all of them showed there involvement in this secret society in one way or another.

John Thompson ……………………………………………………….NSA John was at Veterans Taxi in 92 and 93 and gave me so many death threats and played so many mind games that until I realized that they needed me to flip out in order for there con to work my life became not worth living, once I figured that out It basically had no affect yet what’s the point there infrastructure is already done.

Diane Valentine, Nathan Lawson, Raz Haile Ferguson and Safallo Mayfield all have affiliation with the N.S.A.………………………these folks all worked at M.S.C. south in San Francisco and were instrumental in manipulating me into homelessness except for Diane she worked for a homeless advocacy program, which mediates between shelters, and people who have issues regarding problems with the shelters. Just to name a few, these people worked hard to keep me homeless and disheveled. They all received payments at Veterans Taxi in San Francisco in 1993. Shortly there after Feds raided Veterans and disc Mufflers and Breaks, how do I know they work for the NSA well what were not supposed to know about the NSA is that they are not from here the general public wouldn’t be able to handle it, Aliens don’t age like we do they stay the same all these people received payments at Veterans taxi in 1993 shortly there after feds raided Veterans’ taxi in SF and Disc. Mufflers and Breaks in regards to 1000s of people being erased.

Others



Federal Justice for INS Kathryn O’shay,……………………………………………………..She was portraying herself as a nun in M.S.C. south in San Francisco, the intended idea was that I would recognize her when they put there bogus fraud case in at INS and she would then deny she was at M.S.C. south to again try and make me appear crazy, imperative to make the con work, But that’s not all just about all they have done to me, I can prove and they can’t and wont be able to deny that they have been erasing people for years and there properties all seized illegally at INS





Ties to organized crime include Norman Young owner of Discount Mufflers and breaks in San Francisco and the staff of Veterans Cab in San Francisco .



Roberta Mihaila Fetzeanu…………………………………………………………………………………She is the one who suckered the victims, the real black widow, the interesting thing about this woman is that she is timeless, she doesn’t age she will always look 19 and I can prove it though unknown to me at the time she made porn’s and 20 years apart these porn’s and porno applications list her as being 19, always 19 when I met her she was born on Dec. 25 1973. Last, I checked she was busy setting up yet another family for fraud. She can probably be found at Discount Mufflers and Breaks in San Francisco or she occasionally works at Market Street Cinema, HER STATUS IS HIDING UNDER POLITICAL ASYLUM AT THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION. See information on Extra terrestrials

Relu Raduescu ……………………………………………He portrayed himself as Roberta’s uncle and is the evilest man I have ever met. THESE LAST 2 are directly responsible for erasing over 3000 people HIS STATUS IS HIDING UNDER POLITICAL ASYLUM AT THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION, The properties and funds that these people set up and stole are listed under properties seized thru Dept of Immigration in the General Accounting office in Washington D.C.. AND DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION however the NSA probably sealed these documents so that no one can look at them.

Attorney Jill Stanton…………………………………………………………Attorney Jill Stanton wrote a bogus restraining order which was to be used in there bogus fraud case which would be used in court to make me look as though I was a pedophile in there bogus fraud case against my family. Attorney Jill Stanton can be found at her office in San Francisco CA .
Others who were at Veterans Taxi in San Francisco CA and now in Portland OR . 16 years later, Paul Hutchinson, David McCloud ,Edmundo Cardenas, Nicholas Littman, Harley Gibbons, Olli Strand just to name a few.





After confirming the validity of the names and the direct correlation to these federal agencies, you will come to realize the validity of everything in this document, this is going to be hard to believe but you have to investigate be its all true damn it., the way the con would work is they would murder and replace 500 to 1000 people, replace these people with Extra terrestrials people who have the ability to replicate us yes they do exist and I will prove it.. build there equity to 1 billion dollars U.S., place there bogus fraud case with INS then the replacements, Extra terrestrials would move into non-existence INS would seize these properties and the N.S.A. would then erase these US citizens making it look as if they were never here and the reason I know about this is that they targeted my family, 2 years ago I was told my family wasn’t my family anymore and that they had been switched, after watching one of them Shape Shift, he hunched over his neck went out of joint his head changed shape, arms and legs flayed to the sides and his mouth went into an O shape, and realizing I had seen something extremely unique, I realized that I had seen people with different facial expressions over the years, different then we have and realized that the reason I was receiving 100s of death threats was that there is a lot more going on then just some graft at INS and a bogus war on terror, we are being hood winked into Armageddon, please read all of this document because its all true. The way the con was supposed work was that they would drive me crazy and then force me to act out next they would set me up for Acts of terror, lock me up, then they would place there bogus fraud case in with INS, INS would seize the properties, the extra terrestrials would move into non-existence and the N.S.A would erase them and make it look as though they were never here.


A.THIS IS AN OUT LINE OF HOW THE CONSPIRACY FOR SETTING UP US FAMILIES FOR FRAUD WORKED, USING THIS FORMULA THEY ERASED 1000 PEOPLE IN 1988 AND 2000 IN SEPT. 1992 BASED ON 2 BOGUS CASES THEY STOLE 3000+ PROPERTIES, THE LISTS OF PROPERTIES THEY STOLE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION IS AT THE GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE AND THE DEPT. OF IMMIGRATION SEALED BY TH E NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
Stage One: of how you set a family up for immigration fraud, and erase them 500 to 2000 people at a time

Find and Evaluate victim, this was done at Veterans’ Taxi in San Francisco Both Veterans’ taxi and Discount mufflers and breaks in San Francisco CA. were used for staging the con. There agenda was to find someone with a large family and met certain criteria, I was interviewed for the part 1st by Rodney Cohen of the CIA then by Roberta Mihaila Fetzeanu then by her uncle Relu Raduescu

Questions asked . This stage was done at Discount Mufflers and Breaks and Veterans taxi in San Francisco where I might add that in the fall of 92 I witnessed the FBI and Local Law enforcement raid both business on the same day.

A. Are you a US citizen………………………………………….Was the first thing out of Roberta Mihaila Fetzeanu Mihealescu mouth when I picked her up while driving for Veterans Taxi in Sept. 1992 in San Francisco.

Followed by.

A1. Are you an only child? ……..reason necessary to tie all the families properties to one person later show conspiracy for fraud at INS yet it was the CIA who was doing the conspiracy.. Which will become painfully evident when there names and parts they played become public.

B. When your father dies do you inherit everything?

C. Do you have a large family with properties everywhere? ……….reason How big of a target is your family

D. Is there any schizophrenia in your family? …………….reason Can we drive you to look crazy?, this was done by placing people out of context i.e. People who were at veterans taxi in SF in 1992 were placed here in Portland Or. I was supposed see these people recognize them, they would deny any involvement however I would then be labeled schizophrenic unfortunately for them I never flipped out and seeing as how they were stealing 1 billion dollars, 18 years isn’t a long time for people who do not age. (see notes on extra-terrestrials’) I will explain later. In an effort to drive me nuts they wiped out my bank account, manipulated me into homeless again and constant death threats.

E. I qualified for there con, my mother who I barely know was diagnosed with schizophrenia and I am an only child, when my father dies I do inherit everything and I did have a large family with properties everywhere.

Stage two

Manipulate a marriage which would later be erased to Miss. Roberta Mihaila Fetzeanu with the help of her supposed uncle Relu Raduescu this was done by disheveling my life until I gave in to them, manipulate me into homelessness and only later to realize was one massive nightmare ,both using the con name of Mihailescu, which I found out later is a mix of there two names something common in Romania when 2 people get married, manipulated me to sign a document at Immigration stating I was bringing someone into the country to live at my families house, a document which would later be copied and applied to all my families properties, Roberta would then move her status to political asylum to hide her identity BACK AND FORTH FROM MARITAL STATUS TO POLITICAL ASYLUM AND BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN each time hanging another family out to be set up for fraud.

Stage three

Wait 12 years, who would wait 12 years to complete a con these people are timeless and have as much as they want.



Then they would gather bogus video evidence this was done at MSC South a homeless shelter in San Francisco I was manipulated to stay in and under the auspicious of a dental exam they placed me in front of a blue screen getting up to date images to correlate bogus images to be used in there con to set up US citizens for fraud using extra terrestrials.

Then they would put in there bogus fraud con and unfortunately I kind of screwed this section up, because I was supposed to freak out and lose it, hell they wiped out my bank account, murdered my family and manipulated me into homelessness and DURING THIS STAGE OF THE GAME I FOUND OUT EVERY THING ELSE, they were supposed to raise the equity and then follow through on there con take the properties the extraterrestrials would move into non-existence, the NSA would erase the entire family and make it look as though they were never here, I was supposed to be locked up and be made to look crazy and then murdered in Jail instead I kind of screwed things up a lot.





This has to be interjected here……………….

Things which changed the way I looked at the world completely



A. Before I left San Francisco 2 years ago one of these bastards said, “Kevin your families not your family anymore they have been switched, nobody’s going to believe you and we will turn them against you!

B. When I got to Portland Or. I started to get literally hundreds of death threats, from average people of all walks of life literally 100s of people how could there be so many people involved it didn’t make sense.

C. My bank account and inheritance was wiped out. To the tune of about 60,000 not all at once they had me so freaked out toying with me every single day and constant mind games and death threats, I got to the point I was afraid to go to any government agency or police or even the bank . They thought they could get me to lose it by making me homeless and wiping out my bank account instead I just rub it in there faces

D. I approached my mother’s boyfriend of 40 years Jan Von Provick and I saw something that would forever change me. I confronted him on the fact that my bank account and records were being tampered with he became flustered and what I witnessed next changed the way I look at the world forever, he hunched over his neck went out of joint, his jaw got longer, his face flattened out and his arms and legs flayed to the sides His mouth went into an O shape and his teeth got sharper. It took me 2 days to realize what I had seen he shape shifted he became a different kind of human.

E. When I told a server at Aqua Riva restaurant where I was working at the time named Jenny Kathryn her head slung back, her mouth went in the same O shape expression and she demanded to know if anybody else saw it. Then I got it, how so many people could be involved, there is an alien agenda and they can become us as unique as we are they can become us in fact the entire staff of Aqua Riva restaurant and jakes crawfish all had these facial expressions and attributes along with there signature passive aggressive manipulative nature.

Once I figured out what they were I started picking there brains for information.

INFRASTRUCTURE REPEATED

1. There agenda is to set up Armageddon to get rid of us, to start world war 3 and use Harrp www.youtube.com... to create storms and earthquakes to wipe us out.

2. There infrastructure consists of hundreds of new Penitentiaries which are quickly filling up with people who have been replaced these penitentiaries are outside major cities and are supposedly empty THESE PENITENTIARIES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

2a.New Fed. Buildings with ION accelerators built onto the tops of them. Can be found at 7th and Market in San Francisco and 3rd and Salmon in Portland Or. These buildings are ALL OVER THE PLANET

3. The laser is Alien technology, and they can copy us, our very essence who we are, I found out that they have been gathering our essence, conscience, thoughts thru cat scans and lasik surgery for 30 years, laser is there technology and what we are not supposed to know is that the synopsis of your brain can be copied .

4. All they need is your DNA taken from us they can add it to there own, they can become us.

5. They consider us as cattle, to be used as a slave race and for a food source regardless how difficult this may be to accept the proof of there agenda lies in the infrastructure.



There next step is to cause a huge panic by crushing our financial institutions and create major disasters and bring the war home to the American people in the US then the majority of people will be removed to these new death camps FEMA CAMPS = NAZI STYLE DEATH CAMPS.

It will happen like this they will tell you “no city is safe we are relocating you for your own safety” and then it will be to late





Steve Nichols of the NSA said………………………………. “who are you going to go to we already run everything, the Senate, Congress, Dept of Homeland Security,Fema”! And guess what there replacing all of us so they probably do.


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What would an alien invasion look like


What would an alien invasion look like, it would be subtle and non descript they would turn us against each other by manipulation of our political system(manipulate wars and terror) and economic structure (crash our economy), they would create wars to plant the seeds of social unrest, they would change our laws to suit there needs, they would dominate our political offices and destroy us globally and locally, they would create diseases designed to wipe us out, they would tamper with our weather and manipulate and create hardship. They would have technologies which would be given as gifts however these technologies would later be used against us. They would come here as friends create a secret society living amongst us they would get the upper hand and then divide and conquer, militarily you would take out the heads of governments and executive offices and control from the top. They would keep themselves a secret and use our media to create an air of mysticism an air of disbelief and create propaganda, they would exhibit there technologies as fiction in our media and keep the real truth to them selves. They would use any method necessary to destroy us and they would make it seem as though we were responsible for it. They would crash our financial institutions and they would work on our vices and manipulate us in every way imaginable. They would stall all of our relief agencies and cause debacles’ all around and blame it on poor planning. They would create Armageddon and time it around the Mayan Calendar, they would advertise what they can do and give up there abilities in a fictional capacity ever increasing the illusion of there nonexistence using terms like shape shifter or replicans. They would create an infrastructure to arrive and not be noticed and a way to get rid of us, and they have.

(NOTES ON ALIENS)

To tell the difference from Aliens and Humans they have different facial expressions then us and they don’t change they can stay the same for years.




1. A red pill used for detecting plack content will detect a different reaction, Aliens teeth will go phosphorescent, human teeth will go grey. That pill was produced by a company called Red Cote and distributed to every 1st grader in the country from 1968 to 1984 as a selection process not only in the US all over the world.

A. What you did not know Prior to this selection process 100s of women were abducted by aliens and had 4 basic things in common,

a. They lost time did not know where they had been.

b. They were chipped.

c. When they went to the F.B.I. they were given death threats.

d. And they were impregnated..,



B. 6 years later, when alien children were found in schools across the US they were kidnapped and raised in group homes there images were placed on the backs of milk cartons never to be seen again but later they went back into mainstream America and started the take over.



2. They have a Triple Helix DNA unlike our DNA which is a double Helix, they can hold our information and there own. They gave up this information after I pressed them for it.

3. They are extremely passive aggressive in nature and will manipulate you any way that they can. Finding your weaknesses they will play on your fears, anxiety, any other emotion they are vampire by nature. They look at us as though we are bugs under rocks and they are extremely arrogant.

4. and the most horrifying thing is that they can become us, you can be replaced.

5. They have different facial expressions then us, only to be detected when confronted. Where these descriptions may seem ridiculous they do have subtle difference, there eye lids will fall just across there pupil, or they will raise there left nostril in an exaggerated expression of disgust,

6. They don’t age they can look the same for years





Joe Barber of the NSA told me 2 years ago that there weren’t any more real journalists and after seeing and detecting a number of extra terrestrials living amongst us I got the full meaning of that comment they had been replaced, which explains why not one journalist is going after the 911 commission and there bogus cover up of 911 and this administrations culpability. Example building 7 wasn’t mentioned in the 911 commissions report and the BBC and Aaron Brown of CNN reported it going down 30 minutes before it fell, there reports were scripted!, see www.youtube.com...

It’s no coincidence that the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY can not be investigated by the Senate, Congress or any other government agency and get a blank check, also the NSA oversees all extra terrestrial and UFO sightings, One of the greatest government cover ups is that they are not from here. It’s the real reason the CIA killed John F. Kennedy ,Bobby Kennedy John Kennedy Jr. Daniel Pearl, William Milton Cooper author of Behold a pale horse and countless others.



ON NASA AND NASA LIES

NASA has lied to the American people for 50 years about what they found on the moon there is an Alien City, A pyramid and a Sphinx and many other artifacts and many astronauts’ are now coming forward to expose these lies, commander Aldren,Cooper,Ed White, James McDivitt,Armstrong,Gordon Cooper and many others are now coming forward ,, including author Richard Hoagland in his book Dark Mission. There ships have been seen 5 times over the US in the last year and kept out of the press these ships are 1 mile long and hold 100,000 new beings the flood gates are open and no one is aware there here because they can become us. www.dailymail.co.uk...









Sincerely,

Kevin Rush
Sincerely,

Kevin Rush

These are just some of the people who were replaced 2 years ago, they will be erased after Dept. Of Immigration puts in there bogus fraud case

PS a year from now there will be no record of any of these people, and there properties will illegally seized by DEPT. of Immigration. Marilyn and Doug Irving, Kelso Wa . Chad Melville Cathlamat WA. Kim Pike Issaquah WA , Stephen Rush and Sonya Rush, Bellevue Wa . Mark, Laura and Robin Fuller Tucson Az. Richard and Marilynn Rush, Ken and Melody Rush San Jose Ca. Bill and Joy Rush, Craig Peifer Ontario Ca.Dale Pittenger Clairmont CA. Carolyn And Ralph Cotton, Fairfax Ca. and about another 450 people. A year from now there wont be any trace of these people they were replaced 2 years ago

home.earthlink.net...



Cross reference the above CIA and NSA names and you will have a starting point check on my family in a year or so and you will find no record of them.

A year from now there wont be any trace of these people they were replaced 2 years ago

home.earthlink.net...



Enough of the Death Threats and the systematic thrashing of my life forward all this information and do it by mail because all electric transmit ions are being monitored and deleted when needed were all being sensored!!!!!!!!!!!!

reply to post by Son of Will


ATS winner for biggest wall of text post...wow

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Yeah this guy was a piece of work.
He said taking pictures won't work, but look on Google earth...
Then he says they erase everything, but you have this email.
Dude prolly needs meds.

The sad thing is, I've heard stuff like this before.

From a man who I once saw buy the entire stock of jell-o powder at the local grocery store "to go fishing". And who was later arrested for shooting out cable boxes all over town to keep the CIA from spying on him.

He ended up institutionalized.

The loooooooooooooooooooooooooong email above sounds like someone not quite in his right mind.

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we have no idea how many homeless go missing every year many are mentaly ill ..they have been declared harmless so the state turns them loose on the streets

I am not too sure how others are, but I am completely incapable of recognizing certain ethnicity groups as individuals. I am equally as bad with names. I know people that I have known for years and I do not know their names. If a person tells me their name within seconds I have lost it entirely.

I find that people look at me oddly in public as if they know me but are waiting for me to respond; I don't know them so I don't respond, I can feel confusion from others most often.

I find that when I finally do recognize someone I am not able to recall their name even if it is someone that I know; often times the name will pop up in my mind after the fact. I really get frustrated with that.

When I was in the Air Force, the moment everyone's hair was cut off in Basic Training, I was no longer able to identify anyone.

My eyesight is very different than most peoples, I know this and I have accepted this; I see things that other people do not, and often I feel things as an expression of what I see. I have been living at this address since November, and just the other day my neighbor was at the gate and I ran up to talk to him because to be honest, I did not know what he looked like. I am not too sure he is very attractive but if I had to describe him I can say he is Caucasian, I do not remember his hair (might have had a hat on), his body was in shape for his age but he dressed oddly; if he should come up to me in the store (outside of the gate area where I know him) I will not recognize him.

Voices are easier for me but on the telephone everyone sounds the same, so if you call me the first thing I am going to say to you is, "who is this?" even if you have been talking for a bit.

As for my own spouse of 24 years, I have accused him of having a Demon, being without Spirit, and Straight; of course I am still on the fence over it.

When I was a child it was horrible for me, I would panic if I had to write about another person because their name would not stay with me. I had difficulty finding my classrooms. I could not pay attention in class and remembering the teacher's name if they did not put it on the chalk-board was almost impossible for weeks.

Now I am an old hippie and I can just say, "Hey Man", and people find it acceptable, of course I try not to engage anyone anyways.

Now don't get me wrong, I am always seeing faces I think I know, I just cannot remember who they are! Sometimes it comes to me later, and I often find they are people I used to know from years back, from jobs, or from other such things. I did recognize a boy I knew when I was child and it wasn't his face I remembered, it was the way he walked and held his shoulders, I immediately asked him and he was who I thought he was; I looked deeply into his face but it changed so much over 30 years.

I have to admit, I do not recognize myself in the mirror. I sometimes see my mom, rarely do I see my father but he does show sometimes, and often I see my brother. I am not around my family any longer and it has been several years; I am not allowed to contact them any more, my choice of course; they apparently think that I do not want to be included in family affairs, so they don't, and when I found out I sort of flipped out on them! LOL It is for the best!

I think my father was similar in this fashion because one time I ran into his sister (accidentally online) while researching family, and we became friends, so I showed him her picture but he didn't recognize her; it had been over 30 years for him at the time (I think I was about 30 then). I had never actually met his sister and she has since passed away. I think I sort of remember what she looks like; I lost her picture on a crashed computer and did not have any back-up to support my files. Sad, because I had a ton of childhood pictures that I had digitally transferred and the originals are with my family.

I have since changed my name Legally, so I am not longer who I used to be, so maybe I am the "Impostor"! There have been conversations regarding "step-in's" and that often the "step-in" accepts the memories of the person they have taken over, maybe not wholly and maybe not with clarity!

Interesting thread, I really have never heard of this syndrome; I thought they called it, "we dropped the baby on its head" syndrome! LOL

Originally posted by amongus
reply to post by SeekerLou

 

Never heard of this one! But then again I havent looked...

Im on it! What if it is true? What if the person diagnosed with capgras was actually the clone?

Hmmmm

Hi amongus! Thanks for the reply. Capgras Delusion really got my wheels to turning.. We can let our imaginations run rampant with this topic. Lol may be they are among us, amongus ::

Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by SeekerLou

 

Then folks are being snatched up and nobody will know until they are ready to attack.
I would know if my wife had been snatched up.

Hi and thanks for the reply g146541.
Yeah . lol.Sometimes I wonder if my spouse is an ALF (alien life form) ::

Originally posted by Screwed
Daaaaaamn, my conspiracy senses are tingling.
What if indeed!

I have always held that people who "suffer" from "schitsophrenia" are able to see/hear into dimensions that the rest of us are blissfully unaware of.
I can only imagine what that would do to you.

So, if you were fully aware that your loved one had been replaced by an exact copy......what in the HELL are you supposed to say???
Who in the HELL are you supposed to confide in???

The reason I would lean more to the side of these people actually being crazy is.......

A sane person that is confronted with an "insane" reality would have the wherewithall to keep his mouth shut
because he knows how insane he would sound.

make sense?

Hi Screwed.. boy are we, and in more ways than one!
That would be an awful feeling to think your loved ones were imposters. Hard enough for sane folk to trust people as it is.!.
But then again, as a sane person, I wouldn't be able to keep it to myself - and would want to warn others!

You post made perfect sense to me! Thanks for the reply.

Originally posted by drock905
Pretty interesting. I've never heard about it before.

en.wikipedia.org...

neuro.psychiatryonline.org...

bjp.rcpsych.org...

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Hi drock. Thanks for the links. I will be sure to check them out.

Learned a bit about Capgras Delusion back in the 90's and really wish I could find that website which brought this to my attention. Actually, in the article it used ''imposters'' instead of replicas. Not sure if it was a news or radio station, but the man held a gun on the announcer and demanded this letter be read live on the air. It's been so many years ago, wish I could find that link.
Again thanks for those links!

Originally posted by LargeFries
reply to post by SeekerLou

 

this is a legitimate and rare occurrence, and has been the impetus of at least 4-5 movies from the 1950s on. the human mind is a very scary place. we should all be thankful for good mental health; a completely different world is just a car accident or trip down the stairs away.

Hi LargeFries and thanks for the reply.
Did not know that about the movies. Yes, agreed, the human mind can be very scary.
I am VERY thankful : God keeps me with a sound mind.
Have known some folk that have had accidents and it is sad to see them lose it.

Originally posted by Son of Will
I never saw an article on this, but I have definitely come across some people where I live that are convinced that malevolent ETs are replacing people with replicas. He sounded absolutely frantic, in retrospect. Kept telling me to check out this antenna tower on top of a certain building that he said was being used by the ETs or something...

Well this is a conspiracy website so I think I'll look back in my email records and see if I can find the messages he sent me.

That right there reminds me of that old movie, "They Live". Which is eerliy happening all over, the elites were basically aliens in human form, they were controlling the masses with satillite TV. Only a few people who had special glasses could see them for what they were. Very chilling movie!

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Hi Son of Will and thank you for your contribution to the thread..
Nothing is too ridiculous to post on ATS! & Wow! Glad you found that email: What are the odds after 2 years? Wow again! Not sure what to think of Kevin. A little truth mixed with delusion OR reality? Hmmmm.... now that's some scary stuff he must have been feeling. Is he alive today, ya think? Was Kevin the one who actually sent this... or did someone else send it to you re: Kevin?

Man that was a lot of INTERESTING reading. Yeah as one poster said ... an award winner: Thanks again!