turning smokers into cash cows (and how to fight back)

Have a look at this vid. Here in canada we pay $100 for approx 200 cigarettes. So check out what I pay for them for, legally.

The government loves smokers, as much as it pretends it doesn't. First the governmet mandates the addition (or potential addition) of a multitude of chemicals --> disgusting and dangerous to your health (especially that fire retardant, which is not necessary with REAL tobacco, I can't explain why government regulated smokes burn so much faster, I think some chemicals act as accelerants possibly, there's more than just moisture content in them).

I got real disgusted by how the government ensures that we get low quality product, loaded with chemicals, and charges us up the ass for it. In fact, it is a scheme to make 25% of us into total economic slaves. Just think of how many dollars your average smoker has left over after their habit, rent and food (literally nothing!).

Now consider that I can roll 12 or so cartons out of this stuff easily, that's 2400 smokes, all for the low price of $130.

If there are any canadians out there, and you want to fight the system back, give this a try! And just in case, pickup some virginia tobacco seeds (and maybe another strain for flavour to make a blend, possibly burly, I like 75% or better virginia mixed in personally, just to give you all an idea how that works, though tastes can vary).

I am not rewarding this system for it's stupidity any further. Smokers save the system 25% on health care costs, plus, I don't want your socialized health care I would rather take my chances, keep my habit affordable and get opportunity in life instead of letting the govenment continue to rob me of it. Wouldn't you?

So I've setup a website here: /sm0kers and I am definitely going to be handing the mooches out a sample with that url. Ever smoker that switches sends this stupid government a clear message and I would like to see all of us growing it ourselves, and sharing it with the community. This will also turn into a food drive, with homeless on the street you jerks are busy watering and trimming your useless lawns when there could be REAL FOOD growing there, reducing your bills, and gift the excess and tell me who the heck would go hungry if everyone did this? Grow it and gift it. Do this for beer and wine, it is only illegal if you are selling it for profit, so GIFT it. This is how real socialism should work, things should get cheaper (and not the other way around like how it works in a rigged socialist society, where you are doing nothing but constantly paying off the middleman!).

Hope I save you guys a few bucks.

Cheers!

Why not just quit the habit?

Originally posted by danielsil18
Why not just quit the habit?

If only it was that easy hehe

Yeah, I started rolling my own cigarettes quite a while back but have never tried to grow tobacco. What I do like however are your thoughts about growing food rather than grass. I have a small garden (family of 2) which at the moment has tomatoes, green bell peppers, orange bell peppers, cucumbers, summer squash, butternut squash, onions, okra, and strawberries. We also grow our own herbs and spices such as rosemary, oregano, etc., and all of this is grown without pesticides or chemicals. We have chickens which produce not only eggs, but natural fertilizer. We plan on expanding quite a bit this year because of the economy. Most of the seeds for my garden came from store-bought vegetables and fruits, so basically we got them for free. A garden is a serious investment, as far as I'm concerned, as I have never been one to eat grass.... Cows must like it though, because they eat it all day and say uuummm, uuuummm....
We also planted two fig trees years ago, which now are huge and produce two crops per year. I also have pecan trees, pear trees, blackberrys and blueberries which were here when we inherited our property.
Thanks Mom and Dad!!!!!

Originally posted by TheLastStand
Here in canada we pay $100 for approx 200 cigarettes.

PFFFFT..... I pay $30 for 200 smokes in Canada, I guess it all depends on where you shop...

Obviously smokers are cash cows, why do you think most of the big tobacco companies put harmful, addictive chemicals in them? If they didn't put any of those chemicals and it was just straight tobacco, I'm not even sure if they would be addicting, but with all of the stuff they put into them, people just keep coming back for more even though they know it's bad for their health.

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i pay $17.00 US for 16oz of tobacco,, 3.00 a pack of "tubes" and stuff (roll) my tubes all month,,

16oz lasts 2 people a whole month.. $17.00
2 packs of 300 filters 3 bucks each $6.00

and I thought Washington had high prices..

Soory my friends to the north..

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You've set up a website? I think your link is down or incomplete or something because I don't / can't see it or did I miss something?

I've completely switched to e-cigs now. I give zero dollars to the government or big tobacco. I spend less money, and I don't inhale nasty chemicals. Win-win situation!

I remember the days when a pack cost me 3.95 and now its 11-13 per pack. Once the first price increases started happening frequently I go to the reserve and pay 12 bucks for 200 cigs. Its an awful habit which alot of people profit on. To my fellow canadians, just go with reserve tobacco or cigarettes, its worth a bit of a drive (take the scenic route on a nice sunday its a nice drive). I live 45 minutes from one so im lucky, not everyone has that luxury, but if I cant go I can usually find one of my friends to pick some up for me.

I've never seen what all the hubbub is about cigarettes. You smoke them, and that's it. They don't even get you buzzed depending on how often you smoke, so what's the point? I mean for somebody that smokes only a couple a month, I get pretty buzzed off of a cigarette so I could understand if they were like that, but to all of the everyday smokers I've talked to they tell me they don't even get buzzed anymore. I prefer to save that money and spend it on a plant that actually does something other than damages my lungs.

reply to post by Jubes


yeah the black market is great, I just love those corn filled native smokes that cost $10-$30 a carton depending on how greedy the source is. Seriously I can't stand smoking those anymore. Or your buddy's back yard, but still.

I just rolled myself a package of smokes, for $1.50. Not bad. That's $12 a carton. If you're paying $30 you're still paying too much conidering you probably have no clue what is actually in them. Lots of things can be used as filler.

Originally posted by TheLastStand
reply to post by Jubes

 

yeah the black market is great, I just love those corn filled native smokes that cost $10-$30 a carton depending on how greedy the source is. Seriously I can't stand smoking those anymore. Or your buddy's back yard, but still.

I just rolled myself a package of smokes, for $1.50. Not bad. That's $12 a carton. If you're paying $30 you're still paying too much conidering you probably have no clue what is actually in them. Lots of things can be used as filler.

Reserves also sell cheap name brand smokes like players or dumaurier at 30.00 a carton.

Originally posted by James1982
I've completely switched to e-cigs now. I give zero dollars to the government or big tobacco. I spend less money, and I don't inhale nasty chemicals. Win-win situation!

hehe there was a bill proposal I googled not too long ago where they wanted to address tax on the e-cig. What I find retarded is, the government doesn't deserve this money in the first place. The point isn't that this behaviour is unhealthy, sure it is, but look at what following the government has done for north america, can you just see how many fat assed people are out there, all because they've been screwing with our food supply. Seriously america is obese because we let the government usurp control of our food, and that they did, while totally adulterating it, for profit.

Our government is dangerous, it can stop stealing from us anytime soon, but what I'd like to see is if anybody saves money this way, that they let people know when they bum a smoke where this came from and how they can save money. Instead of saying no to the homeless, give them instructions on how to procure cheap tobacco for themselves, maybe it will uplift them so they aren't pissing their money on smokes all the time.

This is about choice, and opportunity. Nature never intended for this plant to rob people of so much opportunity, and our society has burdened us with this unnatural imbalance for long enough. This is a huge amount of money these crooks are swindling from us! I say in my case --> keep your healh care system, I don't like it anyways, and smoking their poison added smokes ain't helping at that price. The next bum that wants a smoke will get one instead of the usual "no". They'll get a card too. I'll have to work on the web presence aspect of this however I think it's a great idea to deal with some of this government bloat. Check out all of the temp agency workers who'd just love to get a leg up on life. Government is here to help, not to cripple and hinder like it does.

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I've tried those name brand smokes. They aren't the same. They are still frequently better than canadian government endorsed tobacco I'll tell you. Had some random dude sell me a pack of dumariers for $5 and they were damn tasty smokes (probably clones though).

In fact I bought some clone dumariers again from another person in town and they were totally different, kinda harsh and I wasn't very impressed with them.

Plus all that dust and stalk usally gets ground up and them glued together, then recut into tobacco-like filler, to stretch things out --> do you seriously want to be smoking that?

I'm shocked that more smokers will worry about food health than what they are putting into their lungs.

In fact I'd picked up 2 cartons of native smokes in ontario. Those disappeared quick, I tend to chuck them at 2/3rds done because they aren't a pleasant smoke.


OF course, I'd definitely want to see just what other people think of them. Perhaps I'll record people who mooch smokes of me and get their opinions then? I'm willing to bet that'd speak volumes enough. I get bothered often enough so I suppose this time around I can spread some awareness out there. I've got a black berry I'll just charge it up and head out with some gifts. I hated saying no to people anyways at least this way I get community points for being assertive.

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I figure, all i really want out of the cigarette is the nicotine, and its such a bad habit I shouldnt be looking for the most pleasant experience and wont spend extra doing it. I wish after 7 years on reserve tobacco that the stalks and harsh smoke would boost my will power some more to quit it lol
I think it depends on your addiction as well, ive seen homeless alcoholics drink listerine when they couldnt afford a mickey.


PS
Yeah i hand out a smoke to those who ask, and love the expression like "wtf, i guess ill smoke it". Shoudl be an interesting experiment lol

Originally posted by James1982
I've completely switched to e-cigs now. I give zero dollars to the government or big tobacco. I spend less money, and I don't inhale nasty chemicals. Win-win situation!

The best part about smoking is lighting them up and flicking them out when your done, E-cig=FAIL.

By the way anyone else has smokers fingers (stained nails etc)? Quick fix, Brush your fingers with toothpaste. This always works for me, You're nails will be clean in no time.

reply to post by Serizawa


some people do the bleach trick. I think I'll try the toothpaste, though how does this work with the unfloridated stuff?

reply to post by TheLastStand


I use topor toothpaste (the smokers polish), or anything that does whitening. Peroxides in some whitening tootpastes will help the stains.