Obama admin. claims right to censor 'unclassified' materials

Originally posted by bsbray11
That's cool because I claim my own rights all the time no matter what the law says.

What better role model for my behavior than "our" own "leaders"?

If we follow the example set by corrupt politicians we are no better than they. The populace needs to hold fast to the constitution and say in one voice that they've had enough.

reply to post by dwmjr1985


Well, it is something that is recycled a lot, the differences between marxism, fascism, and communism/stalinism..

But they all tie together in many ways..

people have written books about how obama's policies mirror stalins, and marx's, and Chairman Mao, and even George Bush..

It isn't difficult to see that Obama is applying all of these to his brand of leadership, I think you could even say that Obama is a "mutt" of communist, socialist,marxist,stalinist, Maoist ideals..

Those are all his heroes..

One of the methods of the KGB type communists was to do all of these things and then ridicule anyone as lunatics and conspiracy theorists...

What we are seeing obama doing now is similar and even his media friends, (the ones that really love him), are parroting these blasts at anyone questioning or disagreeing with the white house and they are lambasting conspiracy theorists, which to them, are anyone doing the above (questioning or disagreeing with them)..

This was done by Mao and Marx and Stalin and even Hitler did this exact same thing...

Those methods worked great back then, and they are working awesome now!

Originally posted by ShAuNmAn-X
reply to post by UcDat

 

Like I said, who's gonna stand up to them? They have the power to imprison people without just cause in the name of "homeland security"

yep living the fascist dream sigh its sad to see america brought to its knees without even a whimper...
well other than here on ats and the likes.

reply to post by alienreality


Well one of the main differences between Lenin/Stalin, and Obama is that neither of them gave bailouts to Private Companies with taxpayer money, and then said oh pay it back when you feel like it with no interest at all. He also didn't give many private mega corporations so much tax breaks that they don't pay a dime in taxes. But our discussion of this could go on Endlessly. I will agree with you on a similarity of Communism in the soviet union, and our current politics going on now. We have an Oligarchy like they had. I would say we have a Neo-Feudal system right now and its only becoming more ingrained into our society.

Originally posted by beezzer

All Hail The Boy King!

*apologies, the sarcasm function on my computer got stuck.

Boy? Sarcasm? Really?

Calling a 50 year-old man boy is sarcasm?


In addition, I'm sure this headline could have been better put together. Censoring? Really? Classifying information was a HUGE topic under both administrations prior to the current one. Maybe dig a little before assigning blame to strictly this administration.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Pick nits much? *sigh* Common knowledge speaks to "The Boy King" as King Tut, or someone who is thrust into a sphere of responsibility that he is not qualified for.
QED

he could legally place the constitution in a vault and make it illegal for anyone to have possession of a copy
this type of censorship is a direct assault on our freedom and people better get the picture sooner than later and stop this madman before it gets too far out of hand

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by ~Lucidity

 

Pick nits much? *sigh* Common knowledge speaks to "The Boy King" as King Tut, or someone who is thrust into a sphere of responsibility that he is not qualified for.
QED

A nit? I see. King Tut was indeed a boy. Your comment borders on racism...intentional or not. We don't need that crap here.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity


In addition, I'm sure this headline could have been better put together. Censoring? Really? Classifying information was a HUGE topic under both administrations prior to the current one. Maybe dig a little before assigning blame to strictly this administration.

edit on 5/14/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)

Indeed, it is not only this administration that has been pulling such acts. These types of things have been going on for a long time.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by ~Lucidity

 

Pick nits much? *sigh* Common knowledge speaks to "The Boy King" as King Tut, or someone who is thrust into a sphere of responsibility that he is not qualified for.
QED

A nit? I see. King Tut was indeed a boy. Your comment borders on racism...intentional or not. We don't need that crap here.

edit on 5/14/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)

False. Read my post in entirety. Have we become that friggin' sensitive?
Examples of articles using The Boy King in defining Obama
themoderatevoice.com...
wonkette.com...
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...
bunkerville.wordpress.com...
pulsemedia.org...
www.amusedcynic.com...
videocafe.crooksandliars.com...
maxkeiser.com...
www.freerepublic.com...
stumbleinn.net...

ad nauseum.
*yawn*
Sorry, race cards are not accepted here. Please try again.

Originally posted by ShAuNmAn-X

Our so-called Democracy was weakening for a long time before this. Like it or not American Liberty died with the advent of the Patriot Act. We live in a police state, everyone just hasn't "gotten the memo" yet.

Some people have the memo and they are just too stupid to understand what it says, too.

Some people have the memo, understand what it says, but because its a "liberal" president doing it, they think surely it must be okay.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by ~Lucidity

 

Pick nits much? *sigh* Common knowledge speaks to "The Boy King" as King Tut, or someone who is thrust into a sphere of responsibility that he is not qualified for.
QED

A nit? I see. King Tut was indeed a boy. Your comment borders on racism...intentional or not. We don't need that crap here.

edit on 5/14/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)

DING DING DING!!!!!! We have a winner!!! I was wondering when the ole racism card would get pulled.
It was funny and hit the traget dead center on what is happening.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Boy? Sarcasm? Really?

Calling a 50 year-old man boy is sarcasm?

Honestly Lucidity, YOU are sounding like the racist here. It was pretty clear Beezer wasnt using "boy" in the southern sense of the word, and was using it in the "not yet mature" sense of the word.

And the MSM began to push Obama as the liberal messiah way back in 2000, 2001 after some stupid speech. When he was 40? He was a freshman senator, with little experience, aside from being the MSM choice for president since before he even did anything.

I think its fair to call him "the boy king." He was not put into position because of his accomplishments. He had virtually none. He was put in place because of his charm and charisma, his fresh faced boyish optimism, and his appeal to liberals.

reply to post by SpeachM1litant


You know, the really frightening thing is since the press is obama's own cheer leading squad this will never make to the major news outlets. "Can't be saying anything bad about obama, now can we?"
What do you suppose the press would do if this were any other President? Scarry, the press (or at least I used to always think years ago) were supposed to be The Peoples watch dog against government. Silly me.

Thinly veiled racism is still racism. That's how it struck me when I read it. There's nothing more or less to it. Before I read this here I never even knew anyone else had used this term to describe him, but after I posted, I looked. I see where it comes from and who's used this term, so it's a bit clearer now. So talking point defenses aside, it still struck me as strange and borderline. Why even go there at all when you know people are sensitive about it?

And Illusions? How on earth could mentioning this possibility make me the racist? Get a grip. And yes, I live in the south, and like it or not, many people call the president worse than this. And this breeds the opposite reaction too. Racism lives in America. Deny it wall you want. It's here. I made a comment, Beezer defended his initial statement, and it's done. We are of two opinions.

Sorry to go off topic. This president was hardly the first to do this and probably won't be the last. Using this as yet another topic to call him and underscore a personal dislike of him as an individual is not the point here at all. This is your government, and the issue is far larger than one person.

They should not be able to send 'memos' to the court. How much closer do you get until you have the Executive giving orders to the courts on which way to rule? Especially on cases concerning themselves...

Any evidence or interpretation of the law should be given to the judge in the court room, when the defendant is ready to defend themselves against it or counter the argument...

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Thinly veiled racism is still racism. That's how it struck me when I read it.

That says more about YOU than it does about Beezer. YOU must think "boy" as being associated with a certain race. Not all of us do.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Why even go there at all when you know people are sensitive about it?

Because if you arent racist, and you really arent thinking of the word as having an association with some particular race, what would motivate you to avoid it? Why should people form their minds into racist thought patterns to accommodate those who minds are already formed that way?

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
And Illusions? How on earth could mentioning this possibility make me the racist? Get a grip.

Because you were the one to make an association between the word "boy" and his race. I sure didnt. Beezer certainly didnt. Which means somewhere in your brain you have a link between black men and the term as a derogatory and that is the first place the word took you, bypassing the fact that the vast majority of the time "boy" is used to denote a young inexperienced male.

You went straight to race. You did not pass go, you did not collect $200, which means you are the one carrying the racist programming.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander

I see. I'm the only one in the country aware of this use.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


I knew that beezer wasn't using "Boy" as a racist term, however there is some actual history behind the word being used as a racist term.

Historically, in countries such as the U.S. and South Africa, "boy" was not only a 'neutral' term for domestics but also used as a disparaging racist insult towards men of colour (especially of African descent), recalling their subservient status even after the 20th century legal emancipation (from slavery, evolved to race segregation, viz. Apartheid) and alleged infantility, and many still consider it offensive in that context to this day since it denotes that men of colour (especially of African descent) are less than men or no better than an animal. For example a simple command for a dog would be, "Come here boy!"

Boy used as a Racial Insult

This isn't the first time these "rights" have been claimed by a US president.

We just KEEP putting up with it, reinforcing the idea that it's okay.