Could this power your house FREE and get you off the grid!

reply to post by FoxfilesMulder


What I was trying to do was help you out and save me a bunch of linking and effort...the info. has already been presented...I own what your talking about, and yes it's in multiple threads...

But in short...if you have 4-6 small survival "miltary type" folding shovels"water wheel drivers" a set of step pulleys, a bit of engineering background, a good alternater, best to get like a 200 amp RV one.. "12 volt" use the water wheel to spin the alternater...using step pulleys to over spin it.."I took mine..pulleys.. off an old lawn mower deck" then run that power back to a 12 volt battery system...then use an inverter, for the stuff you can't get in 12 volt.. "bought from a local truck stop" I use 1500 watt inverter "$99" inverter can be used in multi room apps by switching it from room to room, and two 12 volt batteries per room...once batts are charged switch to another set and you can charge the entire house in 8 hours..depending on power usage...
My PC has not been shut off in over 2 years...free power!
that will get you started..

No dams required....its portable...

And for the large electrical issues ....save them up.... and use corn mashins to run a big generator, and take care of them all at the same time...I say big I have an 8 HP 10k watt for emergencies such as air compressor and power tools.

reply to post by Doc Holiday


Awesome Ideas!

I really liked the step pulleys to over spin the wheel idea also, that would work brilliant!

I wonder if water + step pulley + a magnetic attraction pull + directed air and whatever else could all be introduced to cause the wheel to spin at the required rate of speed needed to generate the amount of energy needed to power a house.

All of these things could only help I would imagine.

I didn't think to look in the survival forum. I did see it but thought it was about what plants to eat in the bush etc hah.

Have you any other ideas?

reply to post by FoxfilesMulder


I copied all that info on his site form that video. After looking at all the plans so far, I had a feeling that the Tesla coils were the most promising.

Want to get the kids involved in this, and maybe even a group for building generators and having fun!

reply to post by FoxfilesMulder


Your not getting it, I already power my house this way......

You could ask a local big truck or RV mechanic for advice, on how to make Ac from DC ..
The rest is basic mechanical ability....no one makes these "ready to use" well for alternative uses that is, thats the reason I chased the car alternater area for making power"its the alternater I'm over spinning" not the wheel, its easier to follow something already made, and change the practical apps than it is go all willy nilly and think over unity, can work and some big invention is needed..
One key is to get and old style tractor alternater or real generator still 12 volt "pre 1970's era....due to the modern cars alternaters having "internal regulators" which don't kick on, until you reach 1200-2000 RPM's...
But then agian you would need a mechanics advice, and need to install an outside regulater to keep from overcharging and possibly melting or bursting your batteries...

reply to post by Unity_99


Do you mean the telsa free energy generator plans?

I actually have those plans, but from the research I did on this generator It would seem it doesn't power a house as the people who sell the plans claim. I think it works with small things but not on the larger scale.

I went to all the energy forums to read what other people have said about it and the feedback was not good.

You may be able to find something further that could make it work better but apart from all this, it sure would be a fantastic project for your kids to build. I wish my dad got me interested in things like that but sadly the three stooges took priority.

reply to post by Doc Holiday

Your not getting it, I already power my house this way.

Sounds like a great setup then Doc!

Thanks for the input, I must look into this further.

Do you also use any solar panels for anything and does your setup take you off the grid completely, or do you still have it on as a backup?

reply to post by FoxfilesMulder


I need to say this is not my only residence...its my lake house...no power lines at all!

Now I do not have a 7500 watt electric water heater...or a big electric cooking oven....I only use this for the thing "I can't do without" such as lights, PC, TV, charges boat batteries, and cordless drills, run deep freeze etc..etc..
This is not what many ppl would say is comfortable to them....sorry I should have said that sooner..
My water heater is a 55 gallon "black" barrel on the roof, in a wind block, my cooking stove is an old antique wood fueled one.

reply to post by Doc Holiday


If I could power my 3D HDTV, my PC and my PS3 with your setup, I would be a happy man.

A fridge for the beer would be nice also, but I'm not greedy.

Sounds like you are set to go when the NWO comes or the other cataclysmic events happen.

You just need a bunker now, but I suppose you have that also haha.

reply to post by FoxfilesMulder


I know I've been studying various ones for some time, which ones to start playing with.


Free Energy? See Perendev Motor-Power Motor

or the Tesla. The coils seem to be the portable ones, and the video showing the Russians demonstrating in the room a portable device that they have taped up so you cant see the inside running tv or lights, looks to me like a version of the Tesla. I'm sure it used coils.

The one above, the creator wanted money, and anyway he is in jail. But there are many attempts to duplicate it and he didn't leave the magnet layout. However I read the debunking of this, and the guy who debunked it , PROVED IT.

He said that it worked. That proved it. Then he said that it used rare earth magnets, that are not Rare at all and readily available.

In fact, I'd like to learn how to create magnets. Batteries and magnets.

He said the problem wasn't that it worked but that it would wear down over time, but I'm going to see if I can find it, the debunking was debunked basically, because the magnets ARE used in conventional motors and they have to be cared for and last very well then.

This is a very poor debunking.
www.nuscam.com...

I have seen first-hand three magnetic motors running and have written
cost feasibility and reproducibility reports on all three. Two of them
I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several
working replicas. We also went and saw, first-hand, the Perendev
device.

All three designs used "Rare Earth" magnets (Neodymium, or more
correctly stated, Neodymium Iron Boron or NdFeB) and our various
reproductions used NdFeB, SmCo and Ferrite magnets. We did not attempt
to reproduce the Perendev device because of its design proximity to one
of the other two.

The results were always the same: they all run down. Under load, they
run down very quickly. It doesn't take very long for magnets to lose
their magnetism when they are constantly being put in opposition to one
another.

They work!

and then here:

www.freeenergynews.com...

Counter Point: Magnets Don't Demagnetize When Kept Within Their Rating

People know that in a car, you don't run the engine rpm's up into the red line, and certainly you don't go above the read line without risking your engine, not just for that moment, but henceforth. You damage the engine.

Same thing holds true of magnets. If you stress them, they will demagnetize. This has been shown in the laboratory. Magnet specialists know what a magnet's capabilities are, and know what the magnet's limits are.

If a magnetic motor is designed to stay within the magnet's tolerances, then conceivably, demagnetization should not occur.
Holds True in Electro-Magnetic Motors[//quote]

I have a feeling between this and the coils, there may be some chance of getting somehwere.

I was wondering though if the field generated by the coils, the many wires coiled together needed less strong magnets?

Then there is the other fun thing:

Tesla Hairpin Circuit - scalar waves

Scalar waves / Ruhmkorff coil / Part 5

Scalar waves / Design rules / Part 1

Pure fun, but it is alarming too as it calls the human body a free energy device. I have read we have enough static electricity to power a locomotive.

reply to post by FoxfilesMulder


As far as the things you could have...look at what is available for RV's and big rigs...a frig...easy...TV and games easily...I do that now..
Good tip is to also see if you can remain on a 12 volt sytem, many things are available for 12 volt power supplies, converting it, only loses power for you...
Laptops and most gaming machines are DC powered...thats what the big black box on the power cord does it is a transformer/deverter to take AC power back to DC, cell phones=DC, my frig 12v dc, tv 12v dc..
Indoor lighting is 12v LED big truck interior lighting....very very low power draw.

ETA I'm not a big NWO type or police state person....I jusat like having these things and not needing to be reliant on a power company.

www.free-energy-info.co.uk...

There is a lot of info on here. Patents would be good, they have tesla's here, you have to have a working model. But I wouldn't patent anything that worked, just get it out. I think people need to learn how to make their own energy both conventional methods: wind, water, sun, and experiment with magnets. And they should be having groups locally, all over the world, teaching youths, in third world countries how to build generators and donating as much as they can.

One model for survival we overlook is, how do we help the third world? For people who really care. We should be focusing on their survival and by using the same methods, our own.

Energy allows hydroponics and increase of food production year round, it is the difference between survival or not.

If a real disaster happens, they're going to be waiting for the die off and then come out of their dumbs with a super army. They may first round many up in fema and then take them underground. Don't go. But I'm also worried that sitting still on your land or property over time isn't safe, if disasters truly begin to happen. People may have to get portable at a certain point. And they'll have to find portable solutions. Also portable greenhouses.

Vehicles, that use biofuel/diesel, or even alchohol and hand built distillieries, debris all over the forests. And for purifying desalting water.

Heritage organic seeds.

Yurts that can be erected quickly and are shaped right to withstand big storms.

For energy I am between the Greenpowerscience information, that is very useful, and the magnetic ones.

reply to post by Unity_99


Great links again Unity!

With all these magnetic generators being invented all over the place, I wish somebody would just commercially release one already and give the people the free energy which should be a basic right of every person in this day and age. We aren't primitive anymore, its 2011!

Where I live the price of power has more than doubled in the last couple of years and will do again very shortly.

Stupid governments raping the earth to keep the money rolling in.

reply to post by FoxfilesMulder


We could all use our own mini nuke power plant, feeding in battery like isotopes to power our houses, but then osma bin laden would have a field day. hydrogen fuel power sources would be a better idea, especialy if you have a stream by the side of your house!

its a great idea, and as far as putting it on a house that isnt near a stream of some sort maybe a small pump powered either by battery or the wheel itself to bring water up to the top and dump it onto the wheel to move it. this would be great if you had a couple solar pannels on you're roof or in the yard, you would never have to pay for electricity!!

reply to post by FreedomFighter420


Would be good if someone could come up with the idea of how to flow enough continuous water onto the wheel to keep it spinning but it looks like magnets are the only things that can bypass the laws of physics for lack of a better term and output more energy than what was input into it.

Someone on this thread came up with a good idea of using a windmill to draw up the water, this could definitely work....if the wind keeps blowing.

There are some fantastic inventions on you tube for free energy using magnets.

This also looks very promising which is kind of what Doc Holiday was talking about above I think.

Gravity wheel

Here is a list of the 20th century’s brightest physicists and scientists.

20th


And yet none of them even suggested free energy machines were possible. Let alone attempted to build one.

Wouldn’t you think that Fermi, Einstein, Heisenberg, Oppenheimer, Weiner, Feynman, Hawking or Weinberg would have mentioned “Yea you take a couple magnets and hook em up to….”? But nooo, instead you have some hick in back woods country putting out Youtube videos.

Why do people continue to believe this crap?

Then there’s the argument that the big bad gubment or big oil snatches the idea and locks it away never to be seen again. Well ask yourself how well suppressing ideas has worked in Egypt and Libya lately?

Get it through you heads that free energy is impossible. No Billybob hasn’t discovered unknown energy source.

I am reading a great thread on Tesla and this post is interesting:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Might be something to it. The author of the thread said he had a collector type device and was powering his washer and dryer with it.

reply to post by samkent


This thread should tip you over the edge and make you snap then.

Free Energy Machine

If Doc Holidays setup mentioned further above in the replies was the only good thing to come out of this thread, then it was well worth it.

i was also studying cold fusion as a possible power source for a home.that or a fusion reactor.but those things call for high end scientific know how.but they do look pretty cool.i once read about a kid in high school who built his own fusion reactor.it looks like a small glowing blue star in a glass tube.it should have enough wattage to power a home full time.

Originally posted by FoxfilesMulder
Ok but seriously now....

Who can tell me if the basic principle of this alternator would work or not.

Instead of a water wheel you have a magnetic wheel.

You take a water wheel and layer each top side of the paddles with a powerful attracting magnet.

On the bottom side of each paddle you again layer it with the non-attracting magnet.

Above the wheel at a 45 degree angle you have the most powerful L shaped magnet you could find which on the bottom side of the L would have the attracting magnet and the vertical side of the L the non attracting one.

With this method, could the wheel be pulled up and then pushed away to keep the wheel spinning, or would it become stuck in limbo?

edit on 26-2-2011 by FoxfilesMulder because: (no reason given)

That would be Perpetual motion and you would be rich and would not care about energy savings.

Perpetual motion describes hypothetical machines that operate or produce useful work indefinitely and, more generally, hypothetical machines that produce more work or energy than they consume, whether they might operate indefinitely or not.

There is undisputed scientific consensus that perpetual motion would violate either the first law of thermodynamics, the second law of thermodynamics, or both. Machines which comply with both laws of thermodynamics but access energy from obscure sources are sometimes referred to as perpetual motion machines, although they do not meet the standard criteria for the name.

Despite the fact that successful perpetual motion devices are physically impossible in terms of our current understanding of the laws of physics, the pursuit of perpetual motion remains popular.

A more obscure category is a perpetual motion machine of the third kind, usually (but not always)[3] defined as one that completely eliminates friction and other dissipative forces, to maintain motion forever (due to its mass inertia). Third in this case refers solely to the position in the above classification scheme, not the third law of thermodynamics. Although it is impossible to make such a machine,[4][5] as dissipation can never be 100% eliminated in a mechanical system, it is nevertheless possible to get very close to this ideal (see examples in the Low Friction section). Such a machine would not serve as a source of energy but would have utility as a perpetual energy storage device.
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