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posted on Feb, 20 2011 @ 06:30 PM
Since I joined these forums (and over the time before when I simply lurked them) there has been a very obvious and exceptional stance taken toward the
skeptical point of view of the ET Hypothesis. Namely that we, as skeptics, are an adversary to thwart in the grand scheme of bringing the reality of
extraterrestrial visitation to light for the rest of the world. It’s become something of a war, and done terrible things to the UFO (and even this
specific) community, to the point that many skeptics are just abandoning the search for truth altogether and leaving the topic to get muddled by its
own inherent fantastical drivings.
I wrote this as a quick overview of my own skeptical mind, in the hopes that it will shed a little light on how I as a skeptic function. I’m not
speaking for all skeptics, as not every person who whole-heartedly believes in the reality of the ETH is speaking for every believer, but I think many
will agree with what I put down here.
I wrote this as a FAQ, and plan to extend it as needed if there are more questions.
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Do you believe aliens exist?
Yes, I believe there is a lot of potential for alien life to exist in the universe, but I will not default to the definite position of “Aliens
absolutely exist in the universe” until it is proven by science.
Do you believe in UFOs?
Yes, but not in the way that is generally inferred. UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object, not Alien Flying Saucer. Of course I believe that
there are things in the sky that people can’t identify. 90% of the videos and pictures on this site alone are of UFOs, because they’re
featureless blobs of light that are impossible to identify.
As for the real question: I do not see any correlation between (the general idea behind) Unidentified Flying Objects and Extraterrestrials.
There’s been no satisfactory evidence linking those two, and there are countless different explanations that are less far-fetched and more
terrestrial.
Why don’t skeptics just be quiet and let people believe what they believe?
Speaking for myself: I like truth. I like reality. I like knowing how the world and universe really works. So much of actual reality and actual
science is incredible, that I don’t understand why people need to augment their reality with fanciful beliefs about things like aliens, ghosts,
fairies, unicorns, and so on. Yes, before you ask, I’m an atheist as well.
So when I see a discussion spiraling downward into pure fantasy and faith, I feel that I need to interject and steer it back toward reality. Consider
that we as a species still don’t rightfully know if we’re alone in the universe. We anticipate that we’re not, but we don’t actually
know. How is it, then, that we’ve already gotten to the point that we can count how many dozens of hyper-intelligent alien species are
visiting this planet, what type of propellant they’re using for their crafts, and what planet or dimension they’re originally from? Not to
mention what their societies are like, how they communicate, what they look like, what they want from us, and so on?
We need to start at the beginning before we fill in all the details, otherwise we’re going to be completely flummoxed if we ever actually do find
out we’re being visited, and the aliens are nothing like what we’re expecting because of all the fabricated stories.
Opinions are opinions, everyone’s entitled to them. The problem comes in when there are two differing opinions, and only one is actually the truth.
Either we are, or we are not being visited by extraterrestrials. There is no in between, and there is no way for both sides of the argument to be
“right”. So in this instance, I take the stance that we don’t know, and therefore can’t project that we do know. When enough evidence comes
through to prove me wrong, I’ll happily admit that I was wrong.
Will there ever be enough evidence to prove that aliens are visiting Earth?
Of course, if it’s truly happening. There’s always a turning point in science when a hypothesis becomes a theory and is then useable as general
knowledge (while still being tested and updated as time goes on). Alien visitation is still a hypothesis.
What about the “mountains of evidence” that is already available for the ET Hypothesis?
I’ll go through the most often bits of evidence that we see on this forum and explain my viewpoints behind them:
Video: Video evidence is good, as long as it’s clear, focused, within a range that details can be made out, and of a length that you get as
much information as possible out of whatever it is that’s being viewed. A 20 second video of a light in the sky is nothing, because there’s
absolutely zero information that can be obtained from it, terrestrial or otherwise.
A video that shows an actual craft, hovering or doing what we would consider physically impossible maneuvers, including enough focused details, and
what the craft is doing (how it moves, how it departs, how it’s shaped, what markings it may have, etc) is good, but remember that even that holy
grail of a shot doesn’t prove anything about extraterrestrials, it just shows that there are actual manufactured craft in our skies doing those
types of things.
Overall, video will never prove anything. Video will be the substantiated evidence when something real happens. A mass sighting with multiple angle
videos is also exponentially better than a single shot, but again, the videos are not the real evidence in that case, the mass sighting itself is.
Video is also very easy to hoax nowadays, and with the plethora of simple youtube videos these forums get, we’re barraged daily with them.
Photographic: See Video. The same problems persist, only tenfold with photographs. We get no idea of motion or activity, only a single
moment of time. This also makes pictures much easier to hoax. Pictures, like videos, are only additional evidence when a real breakthrough
occurrence happens. If an alien spaceship hovered above the White House and projected a Greetings! message into a million people’s heads, the video
and pictorial evidence would only be to accentuate the anecdotal story by the million people.
Anecdotal: Anecdotes, or personal reports, are very very low on the evidence scale. You cannot prove a scientific hypothesis by personal
claim, it has to be able to be studied, reproduced, and examined, and you can’t do that with someone’s story.
Physical: This is what we’re all looking for. There are many types of physical evidence, and most is backed up only by anecdotes (Someone
saw a ship land, and after it left there were burn marks on the ground). That makes the anecdote much more worthwhile for study, but it’s unlikely
it will ever get anywhere other than remaining a mystery. And in the case of the example, again, there’s no evidence that anything about the ship
itself was extraterrestrial.
We need real, physical evidence of an alien species. An alien body with its craft would be just the ticket.
Unfortunately, the “mountains of evidence” phrase that gets tossed about these forums often isn’t as strong as one would hope when it comes to
actually proving something real, and connecting it to the ET Hypothesis.
But how will we ever get that kind of evidence when the Government/Military/Illuminati/insert-your-favorite-flavor-of-cover-up-conspiracy-here is
hoarding all the real evidence?
I don’t believe there is a mass cover-up of evidence (for the same reason I don’t yet accept that there are aliens visiting the Earth, lack of
real evidence and an overabundance of fabricated stories). However, if I were wrong and there were a mass cover-up by people who are so powerful that
they could silence the literally thousands upon thousands of people that would have to be knowledgeable of the truth, then what could we do? We’d
be at their whim.
Seems bleak, I know. Mostly, I don’t think that’s the case because people just can’t keep those types of things secret for that long. We’re
looking at decades upon decades of secrecy, spanning generations of people doing the job of keeping those things secret. I don’t think that we
should scapegoat the fact that we’re missing evidence onto yet another likely fictional entity to cover for the fact that we just don’t have
enough evidence to clearly prove the ET Hypothesis a reality.
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That’s enough for now. If there are more questions that any of you believe should be added to this, please ask them and I’ll answer as I feel fit
(or others can answer in the thread itself and I’ll add their answers as well). I can’t promise an answer to every question, but I’ll be
watching this thread closely.
I also encourage any and all who are on the “other side of the fence” to do their own version of this thread as a separate topic. I’d be
genuinely interested to read an overview of a believer’s frame of thought concerning this topic.