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Sun Myung Moon, UN Sec.Gen. Ban Ki Moon, The Korean Situation and The Messiah Complex.

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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:25 PM
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Let's Play Connect The Dots:


Everyone remember who the Secretary General of the U.N. is?

Ban Ki-moon
en.wikipedia.org...

Anyone ever wonder if he's related to Sun Myung Moon, the founder of the Unification Church, otherwise known as the Moonies.

Anyone remember that Sun Myung Moon claims to be the Messiah?

Anyone remember how Moon was "coronated" in a private meeting by certain U.S. Senators?

The Rev. Moon Honored at Hill Reception
www.washingtonpost.com...
edit on 12/21/2010 by this_is_who_we_are because: typo

edit on 12/21/2010 by this_is_who_we_are because: secretary general



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:26 PM
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What's my point. Do I really need to spell it out?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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yes please spell it out.

you have thrown facts up, but i cant see what you think the connection is?

i am quite interested in your idea....



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by okamitengu
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yes please spell it out.

you have thrown facts up, but i cant see what you think the connection is?

i am quite interested in your idea....


Sun Myung Moon owns and has his hands in a wide array of front organisations, everything from the innocuous ILWHA Ginsing Tea Company to The Washington Times Newspaper in addition to involvement in countless political front organisations:

MOON POLITICAL FRONTS:

American Bicentennial God Bless America Committee #

American Committee for the Human Rights of Japanese Wives of North Korean Repatriates # Members fasted for 7 days in front of the UN during a vote on whether to remove

troops from S. Korea for human rights violations, October, 1974.

American Constitution Committee * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Suite 300 Falls Church, VA

American Council for Free Asia * Washington, D.C.

American Council for World Freedom *

American Freedom Coalition * Headquarters - 800 "K" St., NW, Suite 830, Washington, D.C. 20001, 202-371-030. Offices in all fifty states.

American Freedom Foundation, Inc. * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Suite 314N, Falls Church, VA 22043. The 1993 IRS Form 990 shows the organization had less than $25,000 in gross receipts and elected to file a report without financial data.

American Parents Association *

American Youth for a Just Peace #

Asian Ecumenical Inter-Faith Council * Philippines Causa branch.

Assn. Pro Unidad Latinoamericano, 393 5th Ave., NYC 10016

Captive Nations *

Causa International Minority Alliance: 393 5th Ave., NYC 212-213-5280

Causa International # 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016 212-684-6122

Causa U.S.A. # 481 8th Ave., Rm 718, NYC 10001 212-764-7238

Causa Veterans' Assn., 393 5th Ave., 4th Fl., NYC 10016

Coalition for a Free World *

Committee for Responsible Dialogue

Committee to Defend the U.S. Constitution #

Communist Research Group

Free Asia Foundation * Washington, D.C.

Freedom Leadership Foundation #

Global Economic Action Institute # 535 5th Ave., NYC 10017 & 1010 Vermont Ave., NW, #1002 Washington, D.C. 20005. This office is no longer open.

God and Freedom Rally, 4301 Harewood Rd., NE WDC, 20017

International Federation for the Victory Over Communism *

Korean International Foundation for World Peace *

International Security Council, 393 5th Ave., NYC 10016

Inter-Religious Federation for World Peace * A project of the International Religious Foundation, Inc.

Korean Causa of N.Y., 401 5th Ave., 7th Floor, 10016

Korean-American Political Assn * (KAPA)

Korean Professors World Peace Academy * New York City

Middle East Association # Washington, D.C.

National Prayer and Fast for the Watergate Crisis #

Professors Academy for World Peace *

Professors World Peace Academy * 38 W. 32nd St., NYC 10001 Controls the University of Bridgeport.

Project Unity #

The Summit Club International, Inc., 1333 New Hampshire, NW, Washington, DC, 20036; 202-293-9393 (incorporated 12/18/81 under "Supreme Council of Heads of State & Government, name changed less than 1 month later)

Washington Institute for Values in Public Policy *

Washington Institute Press *

Women's Federation for World Peace * Moon's wife, Hak Ja Han Moon is the President.

World Anti-Communist League * (W.A.C.L.)

World Freedom Movement *

World Freedom Institute *


MOON MEDIA FRONTS:

Atlantic Video, Inc., 150 S. Gordon, Alexandria, VA; founded 1984

Belleville Press, 401 5th Ave., NYC & 91 Terry St. & 480 Washington Ave., Belleville, NJ (201-759-2334 (owned by News World Communications)

CARP Monthly

Causa Report # 4301 Harewood Rd., NE Wash., DC 20017

Epoch Maker Magazine #

Free Press International, Inc., 401 5th Ave., NY 212-532-8300 #

Global Affairs, 905 16th St. NW, #401, Washington, DC 20006

Global Insight

Harlem Weekly, 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016; 212-532-8300

HeartWing * 12715 NE 7th Place, Vancouver, WA 98684, 206-944-7278.

Heaven & Earth newsletter

Insight Magazine

International Exchange Press *

Manhattan Magazine

Manhattan Television Center * -- 311 W. 34th St., NY, NY

New Era Books, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212-695-7562

New Future Films * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212-947-2780

New Hope News -- members only

News World Communications, 3600 New York Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20006; 202-636-4836 (holding company that publishes all of the different newspapers owned by church -- The Washington Times is printed at this location) also: 38-38 9th St., LI City, NY 11101; 718-786-3200 (church owned building in Queens where all of NYC newspapers are printed; building houses many other church businesses as well)

Noticias Del Mundos * 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016; 212-576-0350

One Way Productions # 10889 Wilshire Blvd., L.A., CA. INCHON -- $46 million film starring Laurence Olivier, Jackie Bisset, Ben Gazzara -- about Douglas MacArthur in Korea.

Paragon House Publishers * 866 2nd Ave., NYC; 212-223-6433 (owned by Paragon Book Reprint Co., which is owned by International Cultural Foundation; also at 481 8th Ave., 212-239-7422

Principle life

Queens Magazine

Renaissance for Resources (project volunteer)

Rising Tide # D.C. -- paper of the Freedom Leadership Foundation

Rose of Sharon Press, Inc. * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001

Sae Gae Times * 38 W. 32nd St., Rm. 1508, NY 10001; 212-947-4770

Sae Gae Times * 5816 N. Lincoln Ave., Chicago, IL 60659

Segye Times * Korean newspaper, publishes Cosmo Woman

Sekai Nippo * 401 5th Ave., NYC 10016, 212-532-7638

Spring of Life -- nutritional journal (IFABM)

Sunrise -- newsletter

The New York Tribune * No longer published.

The Pacific Student Times * -- 625 Front St., San Francisco, CA

The Washington Times * 3600 New York Ave., NW, WDC 20006

The Weekly Religion

Tong-Il Seigel monthly - members only

Ultimas Noticias *

Unification News, 4 W. 43rd St., NYC 10036; 212-869-8847

Unification Thought Quarterly

Unified World # (New World Forum)

Universal Voice # (International Re-education Foundation)

Visual Arts Society * c/o Joe Willett, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001

Washington Golf Monthly * Published by News World Communications, Inc.

Washington Television Center * 650 Mass. Ave., NW WDC.

Washington Times Foundation * Washington, D.C.

Way of the World - monthly

World & I Magazine, 450 5th St., NW Washington, DC 20001

World Media Association * 2550 M St., NW #405, WDC 20037

World Media Conference * Sponsored by World Media Association

World University Times * (CARP newsletter) 481 8th Ave., NYC


MOON CULTURAL AND SOCIAL FRONTS:

These are often used to recruit as well

Advisory Council to the Unification Movement (ACUMI) - joint project of International Cultural Foundation and International Religious Foundation, holds seminars for scholars involved in ICF & IRF to learn about Moon's teachings; Dr. Frederick Sontag, Chairman.

African Institute for the Study of Humanistic Values *

American Blessed Family Assoc. (for members only)

American Community Union * -- 160 W.72nd St., NY

American Space Culture Foundation * Washington, D.C.

Artists Association for World Peace * New York City, Organization founded at the direction of True Parents on Parents Day 1995. Initial headquarters are at the office of the New

York City Synphony.

Artists Association International, Kevin Pickard, Exec. V-P

Big Apple Harvest # (NY)

Boston Area Council for Church and Social Action, Inc.

Canaan Foundation, Inc. 481 8th Ave., NY 10001; 212-279-6255. Non-profit organization which funds the International Cultural Foundation.

Capital Gardens Childrens' Center # 4301 Harewood Rd., NE, WDC

Center for Educational Media * P.O. Box 37, Emerson, NJ 07630. Richard Panzer is the president. This organization works with Free Teens and the World Medical Health Foundation to promote an abstinence based sex education program to school districts. They work closely with conservative Christian organizations that have similar agendas.

Center for Ethical Management & Planning * Berkeley, CA

Council on the Unified Research of Science *

Creative Community Project, Inc. * 1153 Bush St., San Francisco

D.C. Striders Track Club.

Family Federation for World Peace *

Family Federation for Unification and World Peace *

Free Teens * NJ, Project of the World Medical Health Foundation promoting an abstinence based high school curriculum.

Freedom Foundation of NJ, Inc. * 395 Pleasant Valley Way, West Orange, NJ 07052 201-325-0634. This address is the American Freedom Coalition office staffed by UC members. Organization promotes drugs and AIDS materials to schools.

Global Education Research and Development Fund, Inc. * Barrytown

Good Neighbors, Inc. * 2600 Baynard Blvd., Wilmington, DE

Hahnemann Medical Center * a/k/a World Medical Health Foundation

Harlem Council for the Church and Community Change *

Heung Jin Moon Memorial Foundation, Inc. * Washington, D.C.

Homeopathic Counsel for Research * New York City HSA Bulletin Board (computer bulletin board) 415-968-7481 *

International Chinese Assn., 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212-714-401; Board of Directors: Edwin K Eng, Lova Eng Wilson, John Kung, Attorney: W. Farley Jones (all are members of UC)

International Conference of World Peace *

International Conference Center * Seoul, Korea

International Conference for the Unity of the Sciences * (ICUS) 481 8th Ave., Rm 747, NYC 10001; 212-947-1756 (funded by International Cultural Foundation)

International Conference of Professors and Scholars *

International Conference on Law & Individual Freedom *

International Cultural Foundation * (I.C.F.) 1667 K St., NW, Washington, DC 20006; 202-293-9393; also 4 W. 43rd St., NYC 10036; 212-947-1756 (funds many church projects, especially International Conference on Unity of Sciences; sole shareholder of Paragon House Publishers) Neil Albert Salonen, President (former President of the Unification Church of America, 1971-80)

International Education Foundation

International Folk Ballet

International Healing Foundation * P.O. Box 901, Bowie, MD 20718-0901 Phone 301-341-1258. Group promotes the belief homosexuality can be cured through prayer.

International Highway Construction Corporation *

International Highway Research Center *

International Middle East Alliance *

International Peace Foundation * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA 22043.

International Relief Friendship Foundation, 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212-563-3296 (funds overseas projects in Philippines & South America) Dr. Thomas Walsh, Director.

International Relief Foundation * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212-714-1033 (funds missionaries: Philippines & South America)

International Religious Federation for World Peace *

Japanese Cultural Foundation *

Korean Cultural & Freedom Foundation * (KCFF) Washington, DC

Little Angels Korean Folk Ballet *

Madison Institute * Dr. John Cooper, Director

Marriage and Family Institute of America * Founded in 1994 by David S.C. Kim.

Minority Alliance International *

Multicultural Media Association, Inc. #

National Parents Day Foundation * 7777 Leesburg Pike, Suite 314N, Falls Church, VA 22043, 703-790-8700. The organization is run out of the offices of the American Freedom Coalition.

New Age Players -- theatrical company -- * NY

New Age Orchestra -- San Francisco

New Family Foundation, Inc. * Maryland

New Hope Farms-Deer Park, NY (on Delaware River at juncture of NY, NJ & PA; multi-million dollar equestrian center. Purpose: training site for Olympians; a modern pentathlon event center; a breeding & equestrian research facility; competition center for polo, rodeo & horse racing. Possible recruitment as well.

New Hope Singers International

New Society Social Services

New Society Social Services #

New World Players

New World Forum * -- 300 E. 56th St., NY

New World Festival

New York City Symphony, 311 W. 34th St., NYC 10001; 212-971-9150 (funded almost entirely by International Cultural Foundation), David Eaton, UC member is the conductor.

Pacific Cultural Foundation

Prince of Peace School (Principe de la Paz) * Funded by IRFF

Professors World Peace Academy, 481 8th Ave., NYC 212-947-1756

Project Volunteer *

Radio Free Asia (ROFA) #

Religious Youth Service * Project of the International religious Foundation, Inc.

Research Institute on World Affairs, Inc. 38 W. 32nd St. Rm 1508, NYC 10001; 212-947-4770, Directors: Chung Hwan Kwak, Il Pyung Kim & Hugh Spurgin, shares offices w/Sae Gae Times and Soul of Russia Group, 10 Dock Rd., Barrytown, NY 12507 914-758-6881 (awareness group by Erin Bouma)

Society for the Scientific Study of Religion

Society for Common Insights

Society for Common Insights, Inc.

Striders International, Inc., 17501 Sabrina Terrace, Rockville, MD 20855

Unification Educational Foundation * Hyattsville, MD.

United to Serve America (USA) * 3600 New York Ave. NE 3rd Fl. Washington, D.C. 20002, 202-636-8910, 202-636-8909 FAX. Started as a cooperative project of the American Freedom Foundation and the American Freedom Coalition. This address is that of the Washington Times.

Universal Ballet Academy * Washington, DC

Washington Church for Social Action *

Washington Institute for Values in Public Policy, 1333 New Hampshire Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20036

World Alliance for Civil Rights *

World Family Movement

World Medical Health Foundation, 1 Penn Plaza, #100, NYC 10019

World Ocean Foundation

World Relief Friendship Foundation * 481 8th Ave., NYC


MOON RELIGIOUS FRONTS

Ad Hoc Committee for Religious Freedom *

American Conference on Religious Movements * UC funded cult apologist organization.

Corporate address: The Catholic University of America, Washington, D.C.

Assembly of Worlds Religions * 481 8th Ave., NYC 212-695-0446 A project of the International Religious Foundations, Inc.

Causa Ministerial Alliance, 1153 Bush St., San Francisco, CA

Causa Ministerial Alliance, 1120 Ave. of the Americas, NYC 10026

Chinese Evangelical Assn., 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001; 212-714-9401

Council for the World's Religions * 481 8th Ave., NYC 10001 This is a project of the

International Religious Foundation, Inc.

Ecumenical Foundation for Community Development * -- NY

First Amendment Research Institute * Washington, D.C.

Global Congress of the World's Religions *

Inter Religious Federation for World Peace *

Interdenominational Conference of Clergy, 481 8th Ave., NYC,

International Conference Center * Seoul, Korea

www.tlem.net...

This is a sampling of over 1200 front groups.

Central to his "teaching" is a one world religion and a reunified N. and S. Korea. brought about by him - as World Messiah, and who better to pave the way for this illegitimate agenda than a legitimate UN Secretary General (possibly a brainwashed high level Unification Church cult member)

Get it now?



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 10:09 PM
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Messiah Moon? Give me a break. Do you still not see the connections, the implications, the relevance? This is just too bizarre to be swept under the proverbial rug.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/37567f23f338.jpg[/atsimg]
dir.salon.com...



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 10:18 PM
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Yikes...I hope you are wrong...but I can see this happening.

*EDIT*

I was thinking...
Could this be the false messiah [antichrist?] the Bible predicts?
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posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by freedish
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Yikes...I hope you are wrong...but I can see this happening.

*EDIT*

I was thinking...
Could this be the false messiah [antichrist?] the Bible predicts?
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edit on 21-12-2010 by freedish because: (no reason given)


That's what I was thinking as well. People will listen to the Secretary General of the UN. If he's in league with S.Y. Moon, then look out. Things are already strange enough. Maybe the seemingly purposeful South Korean baiting of North Korea has been planned all along. To further "The Plan", whatever it may be. Within a certain timetable.

Some of us can acutely feel the immediacy of this timetable. Others cannot. I'm on the edge of my seat...



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 11:16 PM
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YIKES....is right...
i remember when he first became famous...this sounds about right for these days, too huh!!! dahanggg dude...i see it plain as day...and you know what?....we should watch and do what we can but it has to go down this way, or else prophecy won't fulfill...this kind of stuff has to happen.
that brings us to the next step...we'll be spared from the crap at some point in time... did you know that
Jesus is quoted to state that...himself, from his own words, not just Pauls corinthians and thessalonians

dang Moon mutha......



posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 11:37 PM
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The family name/surname of Ban Ki Moon is "Ban." The family name/surname of Sun Myung Moon is "Moon." Sun Myung Moon apparently flipped the order of his name around to the Western style of presenting the surname after the personal name perhaps because he was dealing with Westerns through his cult and business dealings. Ban Ki Moon has kept his traditional Korean/Eastern ordering of his name.

If you are trying to go by the fact that both have "Moon" as a part of their names for saying they might be related, then that would be like saying that the famous Beatles producer George Martin and comedian Martin Lawrence are maybe related because they both have "Martin" as a part of their names.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 01:10 AM
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Thanks for clarifying that, foreigners always play silly buggers with their names, lol.

However the OP makes an excellent point, here are 2 Koreans, apparently working together with a lot of influence to ... their own ends. Whether or not they are blood is irrelevant, they are both Korean, and both have power and agendas. They are fully supported by the system, both of them.

That is a very dangerous thing i think.

OP: You have a funny style of presentation, but there's a lot of info here, thanks!



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by harryhaller
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Thanks for clarifying that, foreigners always play silly buggers with their names, lol.

However the OP makes an excellent point, here are 2 Koreans, apparently working together with a lot of influence to ... their own ends. Whether or not they are blood is irrelevant, they are both Korean, and both have power and agendas. They are fully supported by the system, both of them.

That is a very dangerous thing i think.

OP: You have a funny style of presentation, but there's a lot of info here, thanks!


Sometimes it takes a little bit of theatre to get people's attention. And this is a very good point. Even if they are not related Sun Myung Moon definitely has an agenda and who better to help him pull it off than the head of the UN? Who just happens to be from South Korea.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 01:29 AM
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The true Messiah owns no companys and is just like the regular person and acts as one!

They know who it is and its not Moon!



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by LifeInDeath
The family name/surname of Ban Ki Moon is "Ban." The family name/surname of Sun Myung Moon is "Moon." Sun Myung Moon apparently flipped the order of his name around to the Western style of presenting the surname after the personal name perhaps because he was dealing with Westerns through his cult and business dealings. Ban Ki Moon has kept his traditional Korean/Eastern ordering of his name.

If you are trying to go by the fact that both have "Moon" as a part of their names for saying they might be related, then that would be like saying that the famous Beatles producer George Martin and comedian Martin Lawrence are maybe related because they both have "Martin" as a part of their names.


By the way: Did you know that "Sun Myung Moon" isn't his original name? His original name was "Yong Myung Moon. Yong can be tranlated from the Korean to mean DRAGON. Myung translated from the Korean can mean "bright or "shining".

Who else do we recognize as a "light bearer" as well as a "dragon"? That's a rhetorical question of course.

"Father’s [Moon's] original name was Yong Myung Moon. Yong means dragon."
Father's Speech on 48th Foundation Day
www.tparents.org...
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The site is called "tparents.org" because his followers think of Moon and his wife quite literally as the "TRUE PARENTS" of humanity. Our saviors.

Why do they believe this? Well, aside from years of programming, they believe that Jesus' mission on earth was not to be a sufficient sacrifice for our sins, but rather to marry and bring the kingdom of heaven on earth through biological offspring. In effect, they believe that his mission failed because he died on the cross.

Just thought I'd let you know.
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posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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For those who may have missed this last night. If anyone else can add to this and help me make a little more sense to it, please do. The coincidences are telling. Where there's smoke there's fire. Chime right in!



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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You're just expeiencing an epitheny... an awakening. The dots are connecting in your mind. The only problem here is he will not be the messiah as the messiah has to fill certain criteria before he can be accepted by the Jews and other religious denomination.... without getting into the facts ill just add this guy, no matter how much he owns, is not the messiah.

The true messiah is brought to life "only" by the people... the masses in their time of need... and they will not follow someone whos trail leads to money. Trust me, i have done my home work.

Interesting thread none the less.



posted on Dec, 22 2010 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by nakiannunaki
You're just expeiencing an epitheny... an awakening. The dots are connecting in your mind. The only problem here is he will not be the messiah as the messiah has to fill certain criteria before he can be accepted by the Jews and other religious denomination.... without getting into the facts ill just add this guy, no matter how much he owns, is not the messiah.

The true messiah is brought to life "only" by the people... the masses in their time of need... and they will not follow someone whos trail leads to money. Trust me, i have done my home work.

Interesting thread none the less.


The masses are asleep and are easily led by those behind the curtain. Exposing those behind that curtain is all I'm trying to do with this thread. People will put their faith in Brand X, not knowing that Brand X is actually a product of brand Y.

It's misdirection. The old bait and switch. Take a look and see just how deep the Sung Myung Moon rabbit hole goes, and you'll see it leads straight into the heart of the U.S. Intelligence community. Coincidence? Or the well laid plans of someone our short sighted memories should dust off. And keep a close eye on...



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by harryhaller
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However the OP makes an excellent point, here are 2 Koreans, apparently working together with a lot of influence to ... their own ends. Whether or not they are blood is irrelevant, they are both Korean, and both have power and agendas. They are fully supported by the system, both of them.

Where does the OP or anyone else make any sort of connection between these two men other than the fact that they are both Korean? Did I miss something? How are they working together? There are almost 49 million South Koreans and 24 million North Koreans, not to mention the probably several million others of Korean descent living in other countries.


Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
Sometimes it takes a little bit of theatre to get people's attention. And this is a very good point. Even if they are not related Sun Myung Moon definitely has an agenda and who better to help him pull it off than the head of the UN? Who just happens to be from South Korea.

Again, two people from a country of almost 50 million people is the only connection you can make between them? That hardly suggests a conspiracy to me.
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posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by LifeInDeath

Where does the OP or anyone else make any sort of connection between these two men other than the fact that they are both Korean? Did I miss something?


Here is one of many places where other people have made the connection:

Ban Ki-moon: Is He Or Isn't He A Moonie?
By Wayne Madsen
onlinejournal.com...


(WMR) -- WMR was the first to report on UN Secretary General-designate Ban Ki-moon's possible connections to the Unification Church of Sun Myung Moon, an enigmatic South Korean power broker and billionaire whose funding originally came from the Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA).

Unification Church adherents believe Sun Myung Moon is their "god," and Sun Myung Moon has been working over the years to infiltrate the UN and he has already been successful in receiving UN non-governmental organization (NGO) recognition and consultative status for his front organizations: the Women's Federation for World Peace (Economic and Social Council - ECOSOC - recognition), the Family Federation for World Peace, and World Association of Non-Governmental Organizations (WANGO). In 2001, Moon held a mass wedding in a UN conference room and he is on record as stating that "our movement and the UN are completely connected."


And yes. You missed something.


Before you dismiss this source as merely a blog post, note that I haven't dismissed your comments merely because they appear in, for all intents and purposes, a blog post.

Do the research. There are many more sources that confirm this.
It's just been "overlooked" by the mainstream press. Or consigned to the backpages. Or purposefully downplayed.

Conversely, it is common knowledge to those who research cult groups. Like myself.
edit on 12/23/2010 by this_is_who_we_are because: typos



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 08:39 AM
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North Korea '"Ready For Sacred War" With The South
by Freedom_is_Slavery
started on 12/23/2010 @ 08:43 AM
www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=10181168#pid10181168

www.bbc.co.uk...


This is exactly the premise behind Sun Myung Moon's political ideology. A "sacred' war to reunite the Koreas and the ushering in of a "new heaven on earth", with him at the helm. Twisted isn't it. And here it is.



posted on Dec, 23 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
Here is one of many places where other people have made the connection:

Ban Ki-moon: Is He Or Isn't He A Moonie?
By Wayne Madsen
onlinejournal.com...


(WMR) -- WMR was the first to report on UN Secretary General-designate Ban Ki-moon's possible connections to the Unification Church of Sun Myung Moon, an enigmatic South Korean power broker and billionaire whose funding originally came from the Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA).

Unification Church adherents believe Sun Myung Moon is their "god," and Sun Myung Moon has been working over the years to infiltrate the UN and he has already been successful in receiving UN non-governmental organization (NGO) recognition and consultative status for his front organizations: the Women's Federation for World Peace (Economic and Social Council - ECOSOC - recognition), the Family Federation for World Peace, and World Association of Non-Governmental Organizations (WANGO). In 2001, Moon held a mass wedding in a UN conference room and he is on record as stating that "our movement and the UN are completely connected."

Well, now you've actually begun to present something, at least. Nothing in your prior posts were even approaching evidence of anything connecting the two that I could see.



And yes. You missed something.

What did I miss, please?


Do the research. There are many more sources that confirm this.
It's just been "overlooked" by the mainstream press. Or consigned to the backpages. Or purposefully downplayed.

Um, no. There are a hundred or more threads on ATS alone that are started every day, never mind everything else I need to read in a day. It's really incumbent upon the original poster to present a well articulated and well sourced case for their assertions. Near as I could tell, the only connections you made in your original post between the two men was the similarities in their names and the fact that they are both Korean - connections which I think I did a pretty good job of shooting down.

Now, if what that one article says about Moon-run NGOs getting UN sanction is correct, then that's something to look into, but again it's not enough to say that they have "infiltrated" the UN, especially since NGOs work with the UN and are not a part of it and also because there are literally thousands of NGOs affiliated with the UN, and knowing what I know about how these things work, it's quite likely many of these were never even well vetted before they got their UN association status.

(from my link in the prior paragraph)

There are 137 organizations in general consultative status, 2,071 in special consultative status and 975 on the roster. The year in which organizations were granted their current status with the Council is given in parentheses, after the organization’s name.



Conversely, it is common knowledge to those who research cult groups. Like myself.
edit on 12/23/2010 by this_is_who_we_are because: typos

Okay, present some of this research. I am very interested in seeing it. Links, sources, etc. There has to be something in your possession if you research cult groups.


Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
North Korea '"Ready For Sacred War" With The South
by Freedom_is_Slavery
started on 12/23/2010 @ 08:43 AM
www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=10181168#pid10181168

www.bbc.co.uk...


This is exactly the premise behind Sun Myung Moon's political ideology. A "sacred' war to reunite the Koreas and the ushering in of a "new heaven on earth", with him at the helm. Twisted isn't it. And here it is.

Well, both Sun Myung Moon and Kim Il-Sung are essentially nutter cult leaders - one heads up a scary, multi-national organization/corporation the other a scary nation-state with a big army. It's not at all surprising to me that they are both using not dissimilar language in their description of such a war. Most every cult leader I've ever heard of - especially escatalogical cultists - use just this sort of language about "sacred wars," "crusades," "jihads" and such (and you can add many "mainstream" religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam to that list as well). It all sort of goes with the territory.



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