So who runs the world?

I've been thinking that the true rulers globally, are the Bilderbergs. Just the title alone ( if you've done your reading ) suggests that they are the elite of the elite.

Bilderberg Group ORGANIZATION Founded in 1954, the Bilderberg Group holds "by invitation only" annual meetings of the rich and powerful. About two-thirds of the attendees are European, the rest American. Informally named for the site of the group's first meeting, the Hotel de Bilderberg in Oosterbeek, Netherlands. Founding Date:

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reply to post by shakennotstirred
do not stop your on to it, think, think think what has the most to lose most to gain, on a wold wide scale.

reply to post by Whereweheaded
yes but who was the founding fathers of this group, and were did they get there power from, and what has sprung out of them.

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Originally posted by DeltaChaos

Originally posted by shakennotstirred
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I would quite like the truth.

Which of the many theories do you offer?

Uhh... come again?

Originally posted by DeltaChaos
Do you want the truth, or the theory?

I thought you were claiming to know the truth and was interested what you had to say.

I was also joking about the many conspiracy theories there are as to who really rules the world.

The truth is out there somewhere but there is so much disinformation out there it is hard to know the real truth.

The Devil runs the world via religion, banking, politics, education and media. He's got his children (call them aliens if you wish) throughout all of society, sabotaging slandering and generally trouble making. We've all met them.

reply to post by shakennotstirred
no it is not, they TPTB want you to think so, this is just too big for one man person to find i am being cryptic for a reason if you must know.

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I personally think its not one group of people....

bankers control our money
politicians control our freedoms
media controls our minds

I forgot the Media.

According to the U.S. Congressional Record February 9, 1917, page 2947 J. P. Morgan asked experts to pick out what newspapers he needed to own to control generally the policy of the daily press in the United States....

He bought out the 25% indicated.

And today it hasn't changed:

JP Morgan: Our next big media player?
If U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Kevin Carey today approves Tribune Co.'s reorganization plan, enabling it to emerge from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, New York-based banking giant JP Morgan Chase will become a significant media player, owning more television stations than any major network and becoming America's second largest newspaper publisher.

JP Morgan Chase was one of Sam Zell's leading banks, helping fund the real estate baron's $8.2 billion buyout in December 2007 to take Chicago-based Tribune from a publicly held company to one that's private....

If it takes control of Tribune today, JP Morgan will now oversee 54 U.S. daily newspapers, the largest being the Los Angeles Times, making it the country's second largest daily newspaper publisher after Gannett.

JP Morgan will also own 31 television stations, surpassing the number of TV stations owned by CBS and News Corp....

The media is basically dominated by five major companies they are:
Time Warner
VIACOM
Vivendi Universal
Walt Disney
News Corp
Those 5 companies own 95% of all the media that we get every day. They own the major entertainment theme parks, entertainment movie studios, television and radio broadcast networks and programing, video news and sports entertainment.
Source: hubpages.com...

You did not mention this but here is another goody:

New York Times: LEVERAGED BUYOUTS: AMERICAN PAYS THE PRICE January 29, 1989

"....These days, corporations seem to exist for the investment bankers.... In fact, investment banks are replacing the publicly held industrial corporations as the largest and most powerful economic institutions in America....

THERE ARE SIGNS THAT A VICIOUS spiral has begun, as each corporate player seeks to improve its standard of living at the expense of another's. Corporate raiders transfer to themselves, and other shareholders, part of the income of employees by forcing the latter to agree to lower wages.

Founding Date: 1954 Name Occupation Birth Death Known for Josef Ackermann Business 7-Feb-1948 CEO of Deutsche Bank Umberto Agnelli Business 1-Nov-1934 27-May-2004 Chairman of Fiat, 2003-04 Fouad Ajami Author 9-Sep-1945 Director of Middle East Studies, SAIS Keith B. Alexander Military 1952 Director, National Security Agency Paul Allaire Business 21-Jul-1938 Twice CEO of Xerox Graham T. Allison Scholar 23-Mar-1940 Kennedy School of Government Joaquin Almunia Politician 17-Jun-1948 EU Economic Affairs Commissioner Roger C. Altman Business c. 1945 CEO of Evercore Partners Ed Balls Politician 25-Feb-1967 British MP, Normanton Robert L. Bartley Editor 12-Oct-1937 10-Dec-2003 Editor of the Wall Street Journal, 1979-2003 Evan Bayh Politician 26-Dec-1955 US Senator from Indiana Queen Beatrix I Royalty 31-Jan-1938 Queen of the Netherlands Ben Bernanke Economist 13-Dec-1953 Federal Reserve Chairman Prince Bernhard Royalty 29-Jun-1911 1-Dec-2004 Prince of the Netherlands Carl Bildt Head of State 15-Jul-1949 Foreign Minister of Sweden Conrad Black Business 25-Aug-1944 Rapacious newspaper mogul Charles G. Boyd Military 15-Apr-1938 Retired General, US Air Force John Browne Business 20-Feb-1948 CEO of British Petroleum, 1995-2007 John H. Bryan Business 5-Oct-1936 CEO of Sara Lee, 1975-2000 William F. Buckley Columnist 24-Nov-1925 27-Feb-2008 National Review William Bundy Government 24-Sep-1917 6-Oct-2000 Cold War advisor to JFK, LBJ Peter Carington Government 6-Jun-1919 UK Foreign Secretary, 1979-82 Henri de Castries Business c. 1954 CEO of AXA Ahmed Chalabi Government 30-Oct-1944 Prominent on the Iraqi Provisional Council Raymond Chrétien Diplomat 20-May-1942 Canadian Ambassador to the US, 1995-2000 W. Edmund Clark Business c. 1947 CEO of Toronto Dominion Bank Kenneth Clarke Politician 2-Jul-1940 Chancellor of the Exchequer, 1993-97 Bill Clinton Head of State 19-Aug-1946 42nd US President, 1993-2001 Marshall A. Cohen Business c. 1935 CEO of Molson, 1988-96 Timothy C. Collins Business c. 1956 Private equity, Ripplewood Holdings Bertrand P. Collomb Business c. 1943 CEO of Lafarge SA, 1987-2003 Jon Corzine Politician 1-Jan-1947 Governor of New Jersey Chester A. Crocker Government 29-Oct-1941 Asst. Secy. State, African Affairs, 1981-89 Claes Dahlbäck Business c. 1948 CEO of Investor AB, 1978-99 Tom Daschle Politician 9-Dec-1947 US Senator from South Dakota, 1987-2005 Paul G. Desmarais, Jr. Business 3-Jul-1954 Co-CEO of Power Corporation of Canada John Deutch Government 27-Jul-1938 CIA Director, 1995-96 Chris Dodd Politician 27-May-1944 US Senator from Connecticut Thomas E. Donilon Attorney c. 1955 O'Melveny and Myers Esther Dyson Business 14-Jul-1951 EDventure Holdings, former ICANN director Murray Edwards Business c. 1959 Canadian Natural Resources Martha J. Farah Psychologist c. 1955 Center for Cognitive Neuroscience, UPenn Dianne Feinstein Politician 22-Jun-1933 US Senator from California Martin Feldstein Economist 25-Nov-1939 Reagan economist Anthony S. Fell Business c. 1941 Chairman, RBC Capital Markets Harold Ford Politician 11-May-1970 Congressman from Tennessee, 1997-2007 Stephen Friedman Business 21-Dec-1937 Former Partner, Goldman Sachs Thomas Friedman Journalist 20-Jul-1953 New York Times Melinda Gates Philanthropist 15-Aug-1964 Married to Bill Gates Timothy F. Geithner Government 18-Aug-1961 US Secretary of the Treasury David Gergen Columnist 9-May-1942 Advisor to Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Clinton Paul Gigot Columnist 1955 Wall Street Journal columnist Donald E. Graham Journalist 22-Apr-1945 Washington Post CEO Katharine Graham Publisher 16-Jun-1917 17-Jul-2001 Washington Post publisher, 1966-79 Richard Haass Government 1951 President, Council on Foreign Relations Chuck Hagel Politician 4-Oct-1946 US Senator from Nebraska, 1997-2009 Richard C. Holbrooke Diplomat 24-Apr-1941 US Envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan Allan Hubbard Economist 8-Sep-1947 George W. Bush economist Kenneth Jacobs Business c. 1958 CEO of Lazard North America Merit E. Janow Educator 13-May-1958 Professor of Int'l Affairs, Columbia University Peter Jennings Journalist 29-Jul-1938 7-Aug-2005 Former anchor, ABC World News Tonight James A. Johnson Business 24-Dec-1943 CEO of Fannie Mae, 1991-98 J. Bennett Johnston Politician 10-Jun-1932 US Senator from Louisiana, 1972-97 Vernon Jordan Business 15-Aug-1935 Advisor to Bill Clinton Muhtar Kent Business c. 1952 CEO of Coca-Cola Henry Kissinger Government 27-May-1923 US Secretary of State, 1973-77 Klaus Kleinfeld Business 6-Nov-1957 President and COO of Alcoa Andrew S. B. Knight Journalist 1-Nov-1939 Editor of The Economist, 1974-86 Henry Kravis Business 6-Jan-1944 Kohlberg Kravis Roberts Marie-Josée Kravis Economist 11-Sep-1949 President of MoMA Bill Kristol Columnist 23-Dec-1952 Editor of The Weekly Standard Neelie Kroes Government 19-Jul-1941 EU Commissioner of Competition Jan Leschly Business ? CEO of SmithKline Beecham, 1994-2000 William J. Luti Military c. 1952 NSC Defense Policy Adviser Peter Mandelson Politician 21-Oct-1953 EU Commissioner for Trade Jessica Tuchman Mathews Government 1946 Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Charles Mathias Politician 24-Jul-1922 25-Jan-2010 US Senator from Maryland, 1969-87 Charlie McCreevy Politician 30-Sep-1948 EU Commissioner, Internal Market and Services William J. McDonough Business c. 1934 President of New York Fed, 1993-2003 Frank J. McKenna Politician 19-Jan-1948 Canadian Ambassador to the US, 2005-06 Tom McKillop Business 19-Mar-1943 Chairman, Royal Bank of Scotland George J. Mitchell Politician 20-Aug-1933 US Middle East Envoy Bill Moyers Journalist 6-Jun-1934 NOW with Bill Moyers Craig Mundie Business c. 1949 CTO of Microsoft George Pataki Politician 24-Jun-1945 Governor of New York, 1995-2006 Henry M. Paulson Business 28-Mar-1946 US Secretary of the Treasury, 2006-09 Frank H. Pearl Business c. 1943 CEO of Perseus LLC Richard Perle Government 16-Sep-1941 Prince of Darkness Fredrik Reinfeldt Head of State 4-Aug-1965 Prime Minister of Sweden Bill Richardson Politician 15-Nov-1947 Governor of New Mexico Rozanne L. Ridgway Diplomat 22-Aug-1935 Asst. Secy. of State for Europe, 1985-89 Don Riegle Politician 4-Feb-1938 US Senator from Michigan, 1976-95 David Rockefeller Business 12-Jun-1915 Founder of the Trilateral Commission Charlie Rose Talk Show Host 5-Jan-1942 Charlie Rose Show Dennis B. Ross Diplomat c. 1949 US Middle East Envoy, 1992-2000 Lynn Forester de Rothschild Business 2-Jul-1954 Telecom executive Barnett R. Rubin Educator c. 1950 The Fragmentation of Afghanistan Mark Sanford Politician 28-May-1960 Governor of South Carolina Jaap de Hoop Scheffer Politician 3-Apr-1948 NATO Secretary General, 2004-09 Eric Schmidt Business 27-Apr-1955 CEO of Google Kathleen Sebelius Politician 15-May-1948 US Secretary of HHS John Shad Government 27-Jun-1923 Jul-1994 SEC Chairman, 1981-87 Robert B. Shapiro Business 4-Aug-1938 CEO of Monsanto, 1995-2000 George Shultz Government 13-Dec-1920 US Secretary of State, 1982-89 George Soros Business 12-Aug-1930 Hungarian financial speculator Lesley Stahl Journalist 16-Dec-1941 60 Minutes James B. Steinberg Government 7-May-1953 Deputy Secretary of State Dennis Stevenson Business 19-Jul-1945 Chairman of HBOS Lawrence H. Summers Economist 30-Nov-1954 US Treasury Secretary, 1999-2001 Peter Sutherland Government 25-Apr-1946 First Director General of the WTO Peter Thiel Business 1967 Co-Founder of PayPal Jean-Claude Trichet Business 20-Dec-1942 President, European Central Bank Sanam Vakil Educator ? Mideast Scholar, SAIS John Vinocur Journalist ? International Herald Tribune correspondent Vin Weber Politician 24-Jul-1952 Congressman from Minnesota, 1981-93 John C. Whitehead Business 1922 US Deputy Secretary of State, 1985-89 Michael H. Wilson Politician 4-Nov-1937 Canadian Ambassador to the US James Wolfensohn Business 1-Dec-1933 World Bank president, 1995-2005 Paul Wolfowitz Government 22-Dec-1943 President of the World Bank, 2005-07 Daniel Yergin Author 6-Feb-1947 The Prize Robert Zoellick Government 25-Jul-1953 World Bank president

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source; www.nndb.com...

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Originally posted by bekod
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do not stop your on to it, think, think think what has the most to lose most to gain, on a wold wide scale.

Most to gain from what though?

The near destruction of humanity? (I mentioned this as their only option in an earlier post)

If you mean that then you mean the finanicially elite. Those whose wealth and power transcends national boundaries and whose goal is secure a one world government. Specifically as someone mentioned earlier (possibly yourself) the people who own the International Banks. Who are, and correct me if I am wrong, supposedly the 13 bloodline families of the Illuminati at the head of which is the council of 7. It said that these 7 people are they who control the world.

As I have stated in earlier posts I have not concluded if any theory is correct I am merely trying to find out about as much as I can in order to develop the biggest clearest picture I can. There is so much disinfo it can be hard to believe in anything.

One of my favourite quotes however is:

"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - Henri Poincare

Can anyone tell me how I can add that to my signature I am being a dunce.

I guess you gotta ask certain dark forces ops who report and do HER DEEDS.
2ND

Originally posted by bekod
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no it is not, they TPTB want you to think so, this is just too big for one man person to find i am being cryptic for a reason if you must know.

Fair enough, I didn't stop to think about why someone would be cryptic.

I just have a real thirst for understanding.

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Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.

Along with his pre- present- and postwar II frends

Edit: Don't underestimate the Dutch!

How about someone clarify what they mean by "runs the world"? If there was any kind of small group in control, don't you think there would be a lot less problems??

How many people do you think are in this "group" that runs the world?????

reply to post by Whereweheaded
and just think that is not the current ones nor the founding ones, add in the IMF NATO, NORAD WHO WB WTO IMF UN Bilderberg and the Bohemian not to for get the the pillars of the US gov and the EU UK then you still have not all involved, so how do you stop them from controlling you your nation or world, see how big the wig of Medusa is, we the people of the world wold have to be as one to stop them. and that is no joke,for only a mirror, did stop Medusa.

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Most to gain from what though?

The near destruction of humanity?

I put on my tinfoil hat and came up with this theory as to WHY things have happened in the last forty years. That is why the elite are moving out of the EU, Astralia, Canada and the USA. The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory!


As added evidence Brazil's economy is BOOMING! www.dailymarkets.com...

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There were different factions at work before, during and after WW1 and WW2.

At the start of WW1 the British Empire held most of the cards, by the end of it the United States and its Federal Reserve were sitting pretty.

The BIS was set up after the war to facilitate war reparations, the reparations in turn were used to pay debts to the US/ Federal Reserve.

World War 2 broke the British Empire and Europe. Roosevelt and the American Banks had the entire world at their feet. The BIS was supposed to be liquidated and its assets to become part of Bretton Woods which was dominated by the IMF and World Bank Group.

Roosevelt died though and Truman suspended liquidation of the BIS due to British influence.

The BIS sat in the background while Bretton Woods dominated until 1971, when Nixon killed Bretton Woods. Nixon accomplished what Kennedy failed to do, which was weaken the Federal Reserve.

Shortly afterwards, the BIS was instrumental in setting up the foundations for the Euro.

With the fall of the Soviet Union 1991, another faction was eliminated from the table.
The US Federal Reserve finally took its seat, after 64 years, at the Board of the BIS in 1994.

By the 2000s, the BIS had come to dominate what was left of Bretton Woods, like the IMF and World Bank.
The economic crisis that began in 2008 gave even greater power to the BIS. The G-20 began to supplant the United Nations and in 2009, the BIS set up the Financial Stability Board which essentially oversaw the G-20. They are also pushing for the end of the US dollar as the global reserve currency, which would be replaced by Special Drawing Rights. The BIS itself stopped using the Gold Franc in 2003 replacing it with SDRs.

There is one significant faction still outside the direct influence of the BIS. The Islamic world, which doesn't allow ursury. This creates friction between the Islamic central banks and the BIS. They and North Korea are the last of the factions resisting the BIS.

When North Korea and the Islamic world falls, for good or bad, their domination will be complete.

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The alledged group of people of steer world events in their favour. For instance by instigating wars and then financing both sides making a literal killing. Crippling the countries involved in the wars and using the situation to then further agenda.

That kind of thing...

First think Pyramid - only the top point is relevant. Notice how the capstone is separated from many pyramids you see?

Protoplasmictraveler has pointed out the top of the pyramid has but 8 people who are in charge - they are on the earth plane.

The eight answer to the unseen, not on the earth plane - the separated capstone. Who they are is not relevant, but they are not physical.

You will never meet any of them and you will not influence any of them. The unseen are beyond nearly everyone's ability to comprehend at all, the eight are simply hidden from all and will never reveal themselves.

Everyone below the top is middle management. Everyone. They are all subject to dismissal at anytime, for any reason. The names you know, the groups you have heard about, are not in charge, they are implementors of policy handed to them.

The middle management are the ones with ego, believing they are powerful but one fact remains - the have sold out their own people for power and cannot be trusted, as such they are the first to go in any change.

When the Old pre- war influence of the noble families, had to make way for "democraty" they fled into the diplomatic world.. and there they still are.

Diplomats:
- Do not get choosen, appointed.
- Do not bare responsibility ( The "government" does)
- Do not have airport control
- Have ALL expensive paid jobs, houses and living ( Salaries can just go untouched on a bankaccount eeh strike that, gold bars;-)
- Have immunity against almost any kind of prosecution
- Whisper in and listen out of every place on earth
- Most are not publicly known
- Have Major influence on policies
- Operates in a silenced world (before Wiki leaks ;-)
- etc.

It may not be all the power, and not always be united, but they do have a great worldwide network and influence.

reply to post by shakennotstirred
yes it is a painful process to understand the pillars of who runs the world, i have been at it for 25 years and counting it would be some much easier to say that one man one nation runs it all, but then would he?