Some things I know about the afterlife...

I thought I'd share a few things I know to be true about the afterlife, don't ask me how I know these things because I'm not too sure myself, could just be me re-remembering, but I know in my soul these things to be true.

1. You can choose to forget the life you just lived, you can even choose to wipe the entire slate clean, by this I mean all incarnations or even just some. However this only works in a linear way, you cannot pick and choose certain lifes. This is done by going into a deep sleep that lasts hundreds or even thousands of years depending on how much you want erased, although over there it will feel like it happened almost in an instant. It works similar to the way a coma patient loses more of his memory the longer they are in the coma.

2. Telepathy is real and I will explain how it works. Usually you would only communicate with 1 person directly, like if you wanted to say something to them privately, although it can be used to send out a general message to a group of people. It only works when you want it to work, when you want to speak something out loud, but telepathically. The intention has to be there, and the intention directs it, intention is something that is easily controllable over there, and it is intention on a soul level so your soul knows if you really desire/need it or not. All your thoughts that you want to keep private are kept private unless you intend for them to be heard. Telepathy is quite common mainly because of its ease of use over actual talking. Telepathically communicating ideas or images is a little more complex and usually requires the other person to 'tune in' and be ready for the transmission. You cannot read someone elses mind without their permission/approval/willfull desire. Also, distance does not effect telepathy so you can communicate with someone no matter where they are on the otherside.

3. Teleportaion is real, and quite easy to explain. You can teleport as far as you want, and anywhere you want just by thinking about it. You picture where you would like to be and will it to happen and your there. You can also lock in on energy signatures (everyone has their own unique energy signature) and teleport straight to the person you would like to see.

Well thats it for now, if I re-remember some more things in the weeks/months to come I shall post them.

Where did you get these ideas from?

Really nice thread, a really positive outlook on life after death.
I imagine that you picked up this information during the transition from your previous to current existence?
Also it must be hard remembering all that, i bet you could go on for hours trying to explain an event that is so brillaint it cant be explained in words good man anyway, I give you a shiny blue star!

reply to post by Eonnn


I believe that nobody can be certain on whether on not there is an afterlife, but then again I feel nobody ever be certain of anything in life. I am sitting on a chair right now but we don't even know for sure why gravity is keeping me there. By this I mean that we don't have to understand something in order to experience it. I thank you for your post because it has raised many questions for me to sit and ponder (one of the reasons I enjoy ATS).
Your description seems amazing and I feel that if there was an afterlife I would wish it was similar to what you describe.

I'm glad you guys enjoyed the post. Your right Ted I could go on for hours explaining something so brilliant that could not be put into words (like something I remember from before I was born).

As for how I gleened this information, Its hard to say. Its like going to sleep one night and waking up in the morning with a new memory buried deep inside my mind. I have no idea how it got there but it rings true in my soul. There is plenty of other information I could post but I didn't want to confuse the information with things I think are true as opposed to things I know are true.

There is also something I forgot to include in my original post:

4. Once a soul reaches a high-enough level of advancement they can choose to unify themselves with God/The Source, effectively blending their energy back into where it once came from, like a drop of water going back into the ocean.

I believe I may have actually done this in my last incarnation, and somehow re-realised my individuality and started a new incarnation. If I try to explain this anymore than that I would be telling the story of what I remember before I was born.

reply to post by Eonnn


Interesting outlook on the Afterlife. A few questions for you though, if you'd be so kind:

(1) Why is telepathy necessary in the Afterlife? If we become spirit-stuff then communication surely occurs on a sub-atomic level. After all, the human flesh has learned to communicate in ways and means beyond words and sounds. Telepathy, to me, would be a regression in our ability.

(2) If teleportation is possible, how do you explain ghosts and spirits which remain locked in one place re-living events, or consistently haunting a single location? If everyone/everything can utilize teleportation and be anywhere, at anytime, just by willing it: why do revenants, and other spirits in loops exist?

You do present an unique view of the Afterlife though. Not as complete or complex as the Afterlife I am familiar with, but hearing about teleportation and telepathy is interesting. Have your re-rememberings enlightened you about the planes, the plates, the borderlands, or the mirror? Have you re-remembered anything about reincarnation, the Hosts, or Harvesters?

I would like to hear more about your re-rememberings. I do hope you continue to post about them on this thread. S&F for you.

~ Wandering Scribe

Are you from K-PAX?

Second line.

you should check out the book 'the end of materialism' by charles t tart. his science seems to back up much of what you say.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Really i have to back Eonnn up on this, its a bit hard to explain, thats why many people dont evn try.
There will not be any specific answers to specific questions you ask, because you wont be able to comprehend unless you go through the phenomenon.

reply to post by TedHodgson


You're assuming that I have not been privy to some part of the Afterlife, or, the Afterworld, in this reply. Which is a mistake on your part. I mentioned specific things that I know about the Afterworld to see if Eonn had re-remembered any bits about them, or if he was still exploring the early just-post-death aspects of Afterlife. Please don't assume that I am some skeptic here trying to lay traps. I am asking questions to see how far in he has been able to probe the Afterworld.

Hi mate, hope you don't mind if I have a go at answering these questions based on my own experiences in some of my work of many years.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by Eonnn

 

(1) Why is telepathy necessary in the Afterlife? If we become spirit-stuff then communication surely occurs on a sub-atomic level. After all, the human flesh has learned to communicate in ways and means beyond words and sounds. Telepathy, to me, would be a regression in our ability.

What we call Telepathy is the the way communications occur in the non-physical realms. It is we humans with our audible grunts and groans that are "regressed"... for want of a better way to describe our current experience of communications. Electronic communications are likewise "regressed" when compared to simple sharing of thought.. Telepathy.

This isn't to say that we humans cannot learn simple methods to be Telepathic. An example is my old mentor, who communicates via telepathy with a government employee who is sent on sensitive missions. It does not matter where in the world he is at the time, they know each others FEEL.. their signature.. and so can easily communicate over vast distances.

We can experiment with Telepathy on our animals. Cats are great at this although they choose if they will respond to your input. I do this by "sending" the target animal a short movie of what I desire them to do. Most times they will follow the thought and do it.

I also experimented with my daughter when she was about 7 years old, by using the same procedure but sending it directly into her physical brain and to her Tongue...within 30 seconds she told me the answer the audible question I asked.. the answer which was sent telepathically.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
(2) If teleportation is possible, how do you explain ghosts and spirits which remain locked in one place re-living events, or consistently haunting a single location? If everyone/everything can utilize teleportation and be anywhere, at anytime, just by willing it: why do revenants, and other spirits in loops exist?

Teleportation as yet is impossible in our physical realm due to the issues of the breakdown and recombining of sub-atomic particles at both the sending and destination areas.

But in a sense we can use the word Teleportation to describe our ability to move freely through the Awareness Stream that is part of everything in existence.. is the core of everything in existence.

'Ghosts' remain locked into their own Creations. Creations based on their Belief-System, their Desires and choices as well as in the not knowing that they are physically dead.. although not all are in the last category. Many are unable to perceive the physical reality around them and are thus "living" in the world they remember and are simply creating themselves through being blocked in Awareness and understanding.

The same thing occurs in the 'astral' layers of Awareness in a space now called The Belief Territories, where you will find the dead creating their own illusions based on their Beliefs about everything, their worth, their choices in life, etc. Not until they become aware of their Creating and thus become aware that the physical body is long gone can they move out of their self-creations and into what is called The Light.. where we find the Akasha and many other things in a "Heavenly state"... and where the dead finally Wake Up from the Dream that is Life in the World.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by Eonnn

 

Interesting outlook on the Afterlife. A few questions for you though, if you'd be so kind:

(1) Why is telepathy necessary in the Afterlife? If we become spirit-stuff then communication surely occurs on a sub-atomic level. After all, the human flesh has learned to communicate in ways and means beyond words and sounds. Telepathy, to me, would be a regression in our ability.

(2) If teleportation is possible, how do you explain ghosts and spirits which remain locked in one place re-living events, or consistently haunting a single location? If everyone/everything can utilize teleportation and be anywhere, at anytime, just by willing it: why do revenants, and other spirits in loops exist?

You do present an unique view of the Afterlife though. Not as complete or complex as the Afterlife I am familiar with, but hearing about teleportation and telepathy is interesting. Have your re-rememberings enlightened you about the planes, the plates, the borderlands, or the mirror? Have you re-remembered anything about reincarnation, the Hosts, or Harvesters?

I would like to hear more about your re-rememberings. I do hope you continue to post about them on this thread. S&F for you.

~ Wandering Scribe

I will try to answer your questions but I will have to combine my unproven facts in order to do this.

1.) When we are on the otherside we still take on a humanoid form. Mainly because it is the most efficient, optimal and easiest way to function. We still speak verbally because it is the easiest way to communicate and understand. Don't forget that all our previous incarnations we have had a mouth to speak with so we're more accustomed to that way of communicating.

2.) Before one can join the spirit realm they must enter the tunnel of light to take them through to the otherside. If you die an unexpected, accidental or terrifying death it can leave you lost and confused or so emotionally overwhelmed that you choose not to go through the tunnel. The tunnel will appear again when they are ready, or when an outside party intervenes to help. In all honesty they probably could teleport but just dont realise it, they have yet to enter the spiritual realm and regain their divinity.

As for the other stuff you mentioned. I'm not familiar with it. If you could enlighten us on what your outlook is that would be nice. Never know, it might trigger me to remember something else.

reply to post by Eonnn


Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions (you too, Tayesin, I didn't miss your response above this one). I want to preface this by stating that I do believe everything you've said here is true, in one form or another. However, I must also point out that I see cultural and religious lenses bleeding through as well. I hope I'm not offending by offering my own experiences, or explanations of the Afterworld; that is not my intent, so apologies beforehand if that is what happens.

When we are on the otherside we still take on a humanoid form. Mainly because it is the most efficient, optimal and easiest way to function

I have seen human ghosts, but I have also seen ancestral ghosts transformed into animal spirits, elemental, and other things. I believe that it is the depth with which the deceased is willing to dive that determines the form which they assume post-death. For instance, a Buddhist has no need for a body, or a soul, etc. Such is a tenet of their faith. Upon death they bypass Yama and the Wheel of Reincarnation to sublimate immediately into the aethyr of the Universe.

On the opposite side of the coin, an atheist has no Afterlife or Afterworld belief. So, when they cross the veil they simply become the dust and debris they have always believed themselves to be. This is not a slander against atheism, not in the slightest. Even becoming the physical matter sustaining our Universe is an honorable road to take.

Likewise, if one believes they will become the Great Eagle, then they will transform themselves into the ethereal Eagle upon their death. Or they will remain a Hungry Ghost if exile shames their aura from life. They may become a looped-ghost if they are unwilling to release their hold on this world, etc.

Concluding, I agree it is the most comfortable, and familiar form which we assume post-death. I do not believe that form must always be human though.

We still speak verbally because it is the easiest way to communicate and understand. Don't forget that all our previous incarnations we have had a mouth to speak with so we're more accustomed to that way of communicating

I do agree that communication remains intact among many of the forms we may adorn post-death. I do not necessarily agree with your reasoning though. Here is my understanding of these things:

First, a "mouth" has not been a part of every incarnation. Those of us who believe we have come from the basest minerals and elements of the Earth never had a mouth in our atomic, mineral, algae, or plant forms. We developed a "mouth" eventually, and long after developing one we learned to use it for communication.

It is because of this that I don't believe speech—physical or telepathic—is the highest form of communication. Consider the "hive mind" of certain insects, or the "whale song" of whales; both of these forms of communication are mysteries to us, as they do not elicit speech, but are able to connect entire species together, and cause entire species to perform fantastic functions without audible language.

I think that "speech", or more rightly "communication" continues to evolve and devolve as your pierce the realms beyond life. Some things may speak, others may rap and beat, while more may use telepathy. Still other things will embody hive minds, diurnal noises, or rhythmic vibrations, and much, much more we have probably never even considered before.

That was the main reason for asking about telepathy. I see it as a low form of communication when compared to all the manner of communication available to living things already.

Before one can join the spirit realm they must enter the tunnel of light to take them through to the otherside

I see some cultural lenses shining through in this instance. I do believe for some people there is a tunnel, with a bright light waiting at the end. It's a very Christian concept, and permeates the media. I also believe their are other roads to the Afterworld though. For instance:

In Mesopotamia it is not a tunnel filled with light, instead it is a tunnel of darkness, 12 leagues of darkness which completely erase the physical body from existence as one travels through them. Upon emerging, you are either reborn into physical life, or carried over into the Afterlife.

In Egypt there is first a powerful Gate, consisting of 12 locks (often called Hours) which may only be opened by the knowledgeable deceased. Once permitted to enter, the deceased then enters the Hall of Amenti, or the Hall of Truth and may only be permitted to the Afterworld if he/she can account for their Earthly actions, as well as identify certain things.

In Greece, a very popular one, there is the river Styx, with it's ferryman Charon, who will escort you across for a price. Once Styx has been crossed your admittance is determined by your stance and actions in life. There are islands, and pits, and halls, and kingdoms you may be admitted to based on the aforementioned things.

The world is filled with many more "doorways" into the Afterworld. All of them most likely work. They just empty you out into a different part of the Afterworld. Much like taking a different airplane out of the same airport. One drops you in China, one in Europe, one in America. But all of them take you somewhere in the world.

The Tunnel of Light is simply one airplane.

If you die an unexpected, accidental or terrifying death it can leave you lost and confused or so emotionally overwhelmed that you choose not to go through the tunnel

I agree. Though this applies to all the doors. Unequipped to pass, not emotionally ready, or just don't care to go through: all of these will deny you admittance to the Afterworld. I don't believe the door comes back when you're ready though. I believe it is you who returns to the door when you are ready.

they have yet to enter the spiritual realm and regain their divinity

This is an interesting phrase. My understanding is that "divinity" does not exist at low levels (frequencies, etc) of the Afterworld. My experience has been that revnants, and ghosts, and spirits exist in the lower realms, and that the deeper/higher/more sublimated you become in the Afterworld, the more divine the beings become. Perhaps this is just my experience though. Maybe gods are running around on the low frequencies.

As for the other stuff you mentioned. I'm not familiar with it. If you could enlighten us on what your outlook is that would be nice. Never know, it might trigger me to remember something else

This message is already very long, but I will give a small overview of my understanding, certainly.

How to get into the Afterworld

1. The doors are all over the world, as I explained with the Leagues, Hours, and river Styx.
2. The destinations are various, like a plane leaving a crowded airport and landing elsewhere.
3. You may choose what you will become: humanoid, animal, elemental, etc based on your beliefs.

What the Afterworld looks like

1. There are "planes" of existence: like the Astral, Assiah, the 4 Worlds of the Hopi, etc.
2. Each of these "planes" sits upon a "plate", the "plate" is what we call the Universe
3. These "plates" are stacked, creating multiple, parallel and perpendicular and abstract Universes
4. The early "plates" look just like Earth: Valhalla, Heaven, Greek afterlife, etc.
5. The more "plates" you travel through the more the world breaks down: Buddhist, atheist afterlife, etc.
6. The less-formed "plates" are where God, gods, and deities reign.
7. The divinities have created the more complete "plates" (hence Creation myths, etc)
8. You are not forced to remain on the "plate" your "airplane" lands on, but may travel if you wish

That's a small introduction to my understanding of the Afterlife and the Afterworld. Were it not already 2:30 am, and if I didn't work tomorrow morning I would make this reply even longer for you. As it stands, I will leave it where it is and let you take a look at it, I look forward to hearing what you think.

~ Wandering Scribe

reply to post by Eonnn

don't ask me how I know these things because I'm not too sure myself,

As much fun as it is to make up your own nifty pseudospiritual ideas about the afterlife please don't pretend that you KNOW anything about it. You know how many psychics, occultists, priests, practitioners, and shaman have claimed to know about the afterlife? You know most of them would disagree with you? What makes your view more valid that theirs exactly?

Well thats it for now, if I re-remember some more things in the weeks/months to come I shall post them.

I know that this sort of thing can be fun, heck I had a fun time coming up with my past lives too, I was even a Samurai in the 1600s, but at least I didn't pretend it was all actually true. These are cool fun ideas but please just don't pretend their true unless you can provide evidence of some kind.

~ Wandering Scribe

Thats a very interesting view of the afterlife, you certainly have done a lot of research into this. I would like to state that I am not religious, but rather just a believer in the spiritual and paranormal. The views I stated are most likely culturally influenced. Mostly influenced by NDE accounts, the whole tunnel of light thing is a very common theme in most NDE accounts, and while in this day and age we may just perceive a tunnel of light, or describe it that way, in the eqyptian days or greek days they may have just been perceiving the same thing differently. Either way, they are transported to a spiritual realm. Buddhists are different because they work towards number 4 their entire life (being absorbed into the source energy/god).

I apologise if I mislead you but I was saying we usualy take on a humanoid form, but you can take on any form you desire. I believe at some stage we have all been a tree, a rock, an animal, possibly even a form of life from another planet. I have heard that the majority of alien life out there is humanoid in form. There is also a theory which I'm not sure is correct, that states there are different levels of soul advancement, so for example: there is a plant-life kingdom, an animal-life kingdom, a humanoid-life kingdom - these are really just groupings of the soul-level that we progress through in a linear fashion as we advance. If this theory was/is correct then it would mean a plant could not take on the form of an animal, but an animal could take on the form of a plant. So if you were a human in your last incarnation you could take on any previous form that you have been. I also believe that when we are over there we take on the form we liked the best, but when it comes to meeting a newly deceased relative we temporarily take on the form they would remember as not to confuse them. I dont believe athiests just turn into ethereal dust, I'm more of the opinion that we have something akin to a RSI (Residual Self Image (like in the movie "The Matrix")) that is like a default image we take apon first crossing over.

As for the telepathy, if you refer to the theory about the different kingdoms, then animals like whales might still communicate in this fashion until they reach the humanoid level of advancement. This also means when we were all in the early forms of life we weren't yet at the level of advancement for speech. Another way of looking at it is that the way cells communicate is written in the code or laws of the universe, Its something we operate on like programs running on windows - that level of communication is reserved for god only. To try and communicate on that level would be like trying to run Windows and a MAC OS on the same computer at the same time. But I believe we do communicate in this fashion if we merge with god like in number 4 because we become god.

Hope that helps clear some things up, I must stress again that these are just beliefs and nothing I feel to be rock-solid facts. Only those first 4 points I believe to be completely true, I cannot prove they are true because it is something I know deep down in my soul on a core-level, just take from it what you will and see if it resonates with you.

BTW, what are hosts and harvesters?

reply to post by Tayesin
That was some very intelligently informative stuff my good man.

Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Eonnn

 

don't ask me how I know these things because I'm not too sure myself,

As much fun as it is to make up your own nifty pseudospiritual ideas about the afterlife please don't pretend that you KNOW anything about it. You know how many psychics, occultists, priests, practitioners, and shaman have claimed to know about the afterlife? You know most of them would disagree with you? What makes your view more valid that theirs exactly?

Well thats it for now, if I re-remember some more things in the weeks/months to come I shall post them.

I know that this sort of thing can be fun, heck I had a fun time coming up with my past lives too, I was even a Samurai in the 1600s, but at least I didn't pretend it was all actually true. These are cool fun ideas but please just don't pretend their true unless you can provide evidence of some kind.

edit on 24-11-2010 by Titen-Sxull because: (no reason given)

Not to get off what I find to be a genuinely fascinating topic and thread, thanks, by the way, for posting it. Well you know how you will be at a party or any sort of "social gathering" and things are going great, everyone is having a great time, having great discussions, and getting along? And then some arrogant dick strolls in and just ruins the party for everyone by deliberately spewing "diarrhea of the mouth", with nothing even remotely "relevant" to say. Well posters, we have found our arrogant dick for this thread. Thank you Titen-Sxull...here is your coveted "Dick Of The Thread" award.

reply to post by openmind444


The OP made a claim to knowledge, I'm just saying that unless he/she can present evidence I don't think he/she KNOWS anything.

All I'm saying is I want to see some evidence, this is ATS after all and I don't feel inclined to believe what this person has to say especially if its prefaced with "Don't ask me how I know."

If the OP wants to post this sort of thing in the Gray Area or Skunk Works I wouldn't have a problem with it, but its here in paranormal studies which is meant to be one of the more serious minded forums. If denying ignorance brings the "party" to a halt I could care less.

If someone makes a claim to know something than they should be able to back that up or else change the wording to BELIEVE.

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Nuff said, forgive me.

-v

you do know that by saying you k now the truth, then saying you're not sure, your lying.

just putting that out there.

second it would be nice to know where you are getting your info from because lots of ppl read these forums and they might be misinformed. if you refer to sour soul as a reference, you might as well be a christian(no offense).

interesting topic nonetheless, i do believe that we can remember our past lives, much like animals, but be careful not to mistake info with your imagination.

also never trust anyone that claim they know the truth because im sure no one knows what the afterlife is like unless theyre some sort of deity.