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The TR-3B Aurora Project

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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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Everyone here knows what the TR-3B stealth spacecraft is, and everyone knows that it has been around for a couple of decades now. Recently in the past 10 years or so the nuclear power source that powers the electromagnets on the spacecraft has been upgraded to a new unknown nuclear power source. Some say the new upgrade is a rotating liquid mercury based substance that is super cooled. I myself have to agree that this would be the perfect power source and artificial gravity source a spacecraft can have, and not only is it cool and efficient, but it produces so much energy that it can power the craft plus have energy left over, and on top of that it is frictionless and the parts on it never need to be replaced.

Why haven't the governments around the world came clean and forward with this new amazing ahead of our time technology yet?

Because the oil companies which run the governments have the patents on the technology PLUS they are not ready to release it to the public yet because they know that when they do, they will go out of business. What I do not understand is if they have this kind of new technology then they would still remain the most powerful company in the world because this type of technology is priceless.

Or

The technology is so ahead of its time that it is dangerous if in the wrong hands.

Personally I do not care whose hands it is in right about now, I just want to be freed from this prison we all live in, and I no longer want to be a slave to fossil fuels, and I am almost 100% positive the terrorist want the same, they want to be so far away from everybody else so they can start their own world. I am sure you all want the same too.

So what are your thoughts, and how should we all do something about it since we know the technology exists, and we know what would happen if it we're to be released to the public. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT???????? I AM SO TIRED OF WAITING AND BEING A SLAVE!!!! We have got to stand up and protest, millions have got to go to the White House and protest that this technology comes out from secret. So post a response and tell me what you think about what I have said about this technology and what would happen if released.

And by the way the previous power source for the craft was nothing more than a miniature version of a nuclear power plant, and can also be found on a nuclear submarine. This power source was apparently either not efficient enough for the craft, too dangerous, or the new power source was cheaper and more efficient than the miniature nuclear power plant on board.

I mean seriously guys, I am at a point in my life now that I just don't give a crap anymore, and the only solution to my problem is to be freed from the prison we all live in. If I die protesting, then I die protesting, but at least my nephews and nieces will be free and will not have to live like a slave and work the rest of their life until they die. They will get to explore the universe and see it for what it really is, and live life like a human being should live their life. For all we know we only live once, and once we die that is it, so why do we have to live like slaves? I am sick and tired of it all, and I am putting my foot down on the governments neck and taking control of the situation. ARE YOU ALL WITH ME???



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:25 PM
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I'm with you.
Just don't tell anybody.

Spouting anti-government hoopla in public forums is just "outing" yourself IMO.
Call me a chicken #, but what do you expect to accomplish here?
Besides letting TPTB know you are their enemy.

I am not 100% sure this web site is what it attempts to appear to be.

Who the F knows? Certainly not I.

God Bless you all.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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No... I'm still not with you if all you think the terrorists want is to be free from fossil fuels. Seriously???



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:46 PM
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Where did you get your information about this craft? Im curious to know how you are so definite the TR3B exists and what kind of propulsion system is used? As far as I know, there has been no official release or documentation suggesting this, just gossip and hearsay. I guess I could be wrong. If you have any official documents or other information please share.

I understand the points you are trying to make and I agree. I just think there are too many greedy people in power who would rather continue life as we know it, no matter how better the quality of life could be with such technology. I personally hope the day comes when we can just beam our bodies from place to place. BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!!!
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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:49 PM
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They keep it to themselves because they want to be the top dogs.
Imagine if the enemy got hold of such technology, what warfare would be like.
Crafts creating their own gravity could travel so far so fast. I think it's better they keep it under the radar for a bit.
At least until this crap about North Korea and The Taliban dies down a bit.

Cheers
Brady



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 11:28 PM
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How do you know this technology exists? I'm not very well informed on this topic. Could you point me toward some of the sources of this information so I can bring myself up to speed?

Regarding the protest idea, I respect your gumption, but I don't think it's going to happen.



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 12:10 AM
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Hate to say it but Project Aurora went with Project Medussa and Project Borialis. Those are military projects paid for by the Air Force for a engine. What type of engine? A stream processing engine which is a microchip used in the government computers for use on SIPRnet. What is SIPRnet (Secret Internet Protocol Router Network) which is the governments secret internet ran hidden from the public. The public uses NIPRnet.



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 08:04 AM
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im not one of those that "knows" what the TR3B stealth spacecraft is, i also dont "know" that its been around for a couple of decades, could you show me the proof of this please?

thanks

rich
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posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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All of the sources would be fringe sources.

While there does seem to be something to the black triangle sightings, there is no substantial evidence of any kind of special drive or any other details of such craft.

The rumors have been around for a while, but I'm having a hard time envisioning the mission profile for such a craft, other than battlefield delivery of armored units, and if this was the case, the military would definitely want the enemy to know we had such a capability. Part of the value of it would lie in it's deterrence factor.

As for those thinking it is maybe the SR-71 replacement, I doubt it...as the characteristics don't fit what's needed for the mission profile. I have almost no doubt the replacement is a supersonic stealth drone that can fly higher, faster, and is smaller than it's predecessor.

Question for the OP though - Why is this in Aliens & UFOs? Is it because the powerplant is rumored to be derived from ET tech? There is nothing in your post (though I might have missed it), making an ET connection.
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posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 08:57 AM
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I don't know about fringe sources. But I do remember reading about Aurora/TR-3B in Aviation Week & Space Technology back in the early '90s.

Can't prove it, because I don't have a copy, but I don't think that is a fringe source? Or maybe it is. Correct me if I'm wrong... I'm wrong a lot



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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I understand peoples desires and needs to have something else be out there but if you think details regarding new tech that we are producing, especially military tech and details that are as deep as engine mechanics, got leaked, you might be looking to hard.

Photos of the iPhone 4 getting leaked 3 months before release made news in like every country on the planet. Don't you think if anyone anywhere leaked details on something that controls gravity, it would be out there. Maybe not CNN out there, but a lot more people would be chatting.



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 11:50 AM
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So what are your thoughts, and how should we all do something about it since we know the technology exists,


No it doesn't exist, unless you believe in aliens or super terrestrials. It is impossible to design something like that. Ask any reputable scientist.

I know Edward Fouche says the TR3 exists and he wrote about it in his poorly edited science faction book called Alien Rapture: The Chosen. BTW, don't ever read that book, it's a waste of time.

According to him the "mercury plasma accelerator ring" reduces gravity and inertia by 89%. Well if you want to believe that tall tale, then be my guest. But anyone with an 8th grade understanding of propulsion systems should smell a rat on the TR3BS. According to Fouche, the craft actually moves by a Hydrogen-Oxygen Variable Vectored Rocket Engines (1 thruster in each corner for a total of 3).

Now where have we heard of a hydrogen-oxygen thruster? Hmm I dunno... let me guess... the Space Shuttle. The only difference is he's claiming nuclear energy replaces chemical energy. Want to know what that means? That means that fiery thrust you see exit the rocket or shuttle will be even larger and deadly than ever. Not the kind of thing you can hover over a neighborhood with.

I'm not sure if I can be more clear with this, so I've included a pic below to illustrate what I just wrote.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6713137ed130.jpg[/atsimg]



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 04:29 PM
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I think this is what you're referring to:


In March 1990, the Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine first broke the news that the term "Aurora" was inadvertently released in the 1985 US budget, as an allocation of $US455 million for "black aircraft production" (emphasis added) in FY 1987. Note that this was for building aircraft, not research and development.[7] According to Aviation Week, Aurora referred to a group of exotic aircraft projects, and not to one particular airframe. Funding of the project allegedly reached $US2.3 billion in fiscal 1987, according to a 1986 procurement document obtained by Aviation Week. However, according to Ben Rich, former director of Lockheed's Skunk Works (now the Lockheed Advanced Development Company), Aurora was the code name for the B-2 stealth bomber competition funding, and no such hypersonic plane ever existed.[8]


The story you recall only references the name Aurora (which was, according to the article, for a group of aircraft)...

I should clarify, that any source stating we have an operational black triangle craft with exotic propulsion is only going to be a fringe source.



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Scramjet76
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So what are your thoughts, and how should we all do something about it since we know the technology exists,


No it doesn't exist, unless you believe in aliens or super terrestrials. It is impossible to design something like that. Ask any reputable scientist.

I know Edward Fouche says the TR3 exists and he wrote about it in his poorly edited science faction book called Alien Rapture: The Chosen. BTW, don't ever read that book, it's a waste of time.

According to him the "mercury plasma accelerator ring" reduces gravity and inertia by 89%. Well if you want to believe that tall tale, then be my guest. But anyone with an 8th grade understanding of propulsion systems should smell a rat on the TR3BS. According to Fouche, the craft actually moves by a Hydrogen-Oxygen Variable Vectored Rocket Engines (1 thruster in each corner for a total of 3).

Now where have we heard of a hydrogen-oxygen thruster? Hmm I dunno... let me guess... the Space Shuttle. The only difference is he's claiming nuclear energy replaces chemical energy. Want to know what that means? That means that fiery thrust you see exit the rocket or shuttle will be even larger and deadly than ever. Not the kind of thing you can hover over a neighborhood with.

I'm not sure if I can be more clear with this, so I've included a pic below to illustrate what I just wrote.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6713137ed130.jpg[/atsimg]





Good afternoon scram,

First off let me start by saying that impossibilities only exist within the limits of one's mind and by saying any refutable scientist will say it is impossible just goes to show you dont tend to keep up on current events. As you see NASA themselves have successfully levitated mice and other biological organisms using super cooled electromagnets(Also keep in mind that since TPTB let such technology seep through the cracks only gives more credence to the fact that they have something far more advanced wrapped up in limbo) .

Now seeing electromagnetically induced weight loss first hand, we can take this knowledge and apply it to the TR-3. Now how this MPAR(Mercury Plasma Accelerator Ring) supposedly works is by taking a decent amount of those wonderful electromags previously mentioned and placing them around a sealed ring of mercury(or possibly some other exotic material) and pulsing them in which ever direction needed to create max eff. at a 100,000 RPM.(Hence the need for the mini nuke plant on board) Which in turn creates a somewhat powerful magnetic vortex. With in which effectively creates the, what I like to call, bubble. It is not necessarily anti gravity unless a hundred percent or better efficiency is obtained, but it will reduce the weight and therefore inertia nightmares that Plague the use of rocketry.

Which brings me to your flame to big theory. The simple fact of the matter is the Tr-3 would not need to expel the same amount of fuel that the shuttles do to reach space or in the Tr-3's case hover and zoom off at incredible speeds. As the vehicle weighs less and therefore needs less thrust. Also you misunderstood the function of the nuclear reactor. The reactor is there to simply create electricity for all the onboard systems.(including the MPAR) The thrusters are still hydrogen oxygen or better and only use the electricity from the reactor to function. So sorry no big, radioactive flames needed to get this bad boy going, which the O.P never stated in the first place. He/she simply said that the reactor was upgraded to increase electrical efficiency. I suggest when you take the time to make another half a$$ed post you add a few more minutes to actually read the post and create a more thought out opinion.

So in summation gravity manipulation is possible, NASA proved it. The variable vector rocket engines would need far less fuel to do far more than the shuttle could ever do, due to said gravity manipulation. So once again no giant pillar of fire needed.

good day


and to the OP what are your sources and if you have any other info please feel free to share via u2u or the thread.
Also, amidst the plethora of reasons for them to keep it to themselves one of them could be that there just isnt enough materials for the whole world to hop on the band wagon. Only they truly know but one day I believe we will too. Tis only a matter of time

PEACE
JC



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 09:56 PM
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So in summation gravity manipulation is possible, NASA proved it. The variable vector rocket engines would need far less fuel to do far more than the shuttle could ever do, due to said gravity manipulation. So once again no giant pillar of fire needed.

good day


Very good point observer. Less weight = less thrust needed. Star for you.

Some points though:

1)


First off let me start by saying that impossibilities only exist within the limits of one's mind


No doubt about that. That's why I try and get my information from the guys who are on the cutting edge. If you noticed, every single invention you use today was probably invented by a physicist. Sure some of them doubled as microbiologists or engineers. But all had a background in physics. That is why I'm puzzled as to why those same physicists who are fixated on the LHC (which also uses superconduction magnets) are not more on top of this.

If these UFOs use magnetic propulsion they would require monopoles The problem is monopoles have never been seen in a lab by scientists.

2) Even if such a device could be invented, it would sitll be heavy. 11% of a 600 ft craft with a nuclear reactor.. is still heavy. The rocket thrusters would still be very visible and audible and that is not what witnesses describe with alot of these triangles.

3) The diamagnetic properties of the superconductor sound interesting. Maybe something like that could explain Cash-Landrum Incident. As for a 600 ft triangle that seems like an over the top engineering feat. But I will try and get in touch with some people to examine if this is who are better qualified than myself.

4) If there was real progress that could be made with diamagnetism besides levitating frogs then why are private companies not exploiting this technology more? Is every company who files a patent somehow "silenced" by gov't officials?

-SJ76



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 11:31 PM
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Fouche had the Miltary/Super Engineering credentials, when he first came forward. Have his stuff on tape re appx /96.

Decoy



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 11:34 PM
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I've actually found a lot of interest lately in the subject of our super high tech weapons / vehicles, and I won't claim this is a fully true source, but it's very well documented and the other stuff I've read on there has an air of credibility (also a strong air of doubt in some of the claims), but overall I think there's a lot to gather.

Personally I wouldn't doubt the idea that we've reverse engineered craft or come with some very crazy developments in the U.S.A.'s personal stash of secret tech. There's a lot of missing money, and I see this as being a great excuse as to where a good majority of it went.




The TR3-B does not depend solely or principally on its hydrogen-oxygen rockets. It is a highly reduced-gravity aerospace craft manufactured in secret "black programs" by Humans. The antigravity field produced reduces the vehicles weight by about 90% so that very little thrust is required to either keep it aloft or to propel it at Mach 9 speeds, or higher.


Source
The other tech on there also explains a lot of the other craft that may have possibly been seen. I think it's a fantastically detailed account of what we may possibly have and a good majority very beliavable with recent developments of tech.

Read onto his other descriptions, see what you think... but I have no doubt in my mind we have antigravity craft and it's only going to get more and more advanced... if we have this tech, we have to get it public and stop using it solely for weapons... or else it's only going to send us backwards in development...


Anywho your thoughts on at least the idea of the possibility of the tech...



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 11:36 PM
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If these UFOs use magnetic propulsion they would require monopoles The problem is monopoles have never been seen in a lab by scientists.


I don't know what monopoles have to do with anything. But here is recent ATS thread and Source Article, indicating monopoles have been seen.

"Magnetic Monopoles have Finally been caught on camera!"
www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Moving Monopoles Caught on Camera: Researchers Make Visible Movement of Monopoles in Assembly of Nanomagnets"
www.sciencedaily.com...

If you had mentioned 'monatomic' rather than 'monopole'... I could relate monatomic to the Gravity Control Technology's flying saucer:
www.gctspace.com...



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by HumanMeatsuit
Everyone here knows what the TR-3B stealth spacecraft is, and everyone knows that it has been around for a couple of decades now. Recently in the past 10 years or so the nuclear power source that powers the electromagnets on the spacecraft has been upgraded to a new unknown nuclear power source. Some say the new upgrade is a rotating liquid mercury based substance that is super cooled. I myself have to agree that this would be the perfect power source and artificial gravity source a spacecraft can have, and not only is it cool and efficient, but it produces so much energy that it can power the craft plus have energy left over, and on top of that it is frictionless and the parts on it never need to be replaced.

Why haven't the governments around the world came clean and forward with this new amazing ahead of our time technology yet?

Because the oil companies which run the governments have the patents on the technology PLUS they are not ready to release it to the public yet because they know that when they do, they will go out of business. What I do not understand is if they have this kind of new technology then they would still remain the most powerful company in the world because this type of technology is priceless.

Or

The technology is so ahead of its time that it is dangerous if in the wrong hands.

Personally I do not care whose hands it is in right about now, I just want to be freed from this prison we all live in, and I no longer want to be a slave to fossil fuels, and I am almost 100% positive the terrorist want the same, they want to be so far away from everybody else so they can start their own world. I am sure you all want the same too.

So what are your thoughts, and how should we all do something about it since we know the technology exists, and we know what would happen if it we're to be released to the public. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT???????? I AM SO TIRED OF WAITING AND BEING A SLAVE!!!! We have got to stand up and protest, millions have got to go to the White House and protest that this technology comes out from secret. So post a response and tell me what you think about what I have said about this technology and what would happen if released.

And by the way the previous power source for the craft was nothing more than a miniature version of a nuclear power plant, and can also be found on a nuclear submarine. This power source was apparently either not efficient enough for the craft, too dangerous, or the new power source was cheaper and more efficient than the miniature nuclear power plant on board.

I mean seriously guys, I am at a point in my life now that I just don't give a crap anymore, and the only solution to my problem is to be freed from the prison we all live in. If I die protesting, then I die protesting, but at least my nephews and nieces will be free and will not have to live like a slave and work the rest of their life until they die. They will get to explore the universe and see it for what it really is, and live life like a human being should live their life. For all we know we only live once, and once we die that is it, so why do we have to live like slaves? I am sick and tired of it all, and I am putting my foot down on the governments neck and taking control of the situation. ARE YOU ALL WITH ME???



No no no. The reason the military keeps its advances with respect to aircraft capability secret is because secrecy in that regard gives you an edge up on your enemies.


For example the 1991 Gulf war saw the first combat use of the stealth bomber. The invading iraqi army in kuwait was taken so off guard, they were totally annihilated by bombardment from planes they could not detect. It was the ultra secrey regarding this program that allowed for this surprise.

So while you may think some piece of technology the military has developed should be used for the benefit of mankind, first and foremost they will develop it military.

But dont worry, military technology does eventually filter into the public sector. example? Nuclear technology.

Heck, the internet was once a secret military computer network.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 03:21 AM
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Well ive done more reading on this supposed tr 3b project and I think its rubbish. Why?

From what the claimants say: they claim its propulsion method uses mercurcy at 150 kelvin pressurised to 250,000 atmospheres to create a plasma. Thats rubbish.


at subzero temperatures at pressures greater then atmosphere, mercury exists as a solid, not a plasma.




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