Neighborhood in shock over planned homeless camp

BREMERTON, Wash. - A residential Bremerton neighborhood is in turmoil after learning that a developer wants to put nearly three dozen plywood cabins on his land for a homeless camp.

The developer and a few supporters says the camp is sorely needed. But neighbors call it an unsightly nuisance that endangers their kids and way of life.

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Here we have some more stigmitation against the homeless. It reminds me of when domestic violence shelters would try to find a location for another shelter. The residents would find out about it and put up a fuss about it. 'We don't want their kind here' is the attitude of many.

The developer is right. We need somewhere for the homeless to stay. Tent cities get attacked and torn down by the police. Homeless people need somewhere to go just like everyone else.

Originally posted by Jessicamsa

... a developer wants to put nearly three dozen plywood cabins on his land for a homeless camp.

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Is this developer a home builder or a charity?

Is the land zoned properly?

Do the shacks require a building permit and a building inspection?

If it's a charity did the developer file the correct documents with the IRS?

Is there a covenant on file reqarding improvements that are approved and disapproved of by the residants of the community?

Will the homeless people pay dues to a higher authority to support the enforcement of the covanant?

This is what it's come down to folks.

George Bush killed the Constitution. Barack Obama is burying it. The Tea Party are the Zombies and homeless people are the left behind.

reply to post by Jessicamsa


Agree, but do you want them in YOUR neighborhood? Many of the homeless are dangerous and unpredictable. As with any "group" there will be criminals, molesters, and rapist. Some may say that the "homeless" culture has a higher number of criminals on average.

If you have young children who play in the neighborhood, do you want a homeless "transient" camp next door to you?

Usually those who support such things support them "somewhere" else.

reply to post by Jessicamsa


Plywood cabins?

Where will they poop and pee? geez...3 dozen is a lot of density for people with nothing but huts.

I wonder how it will proceed...I think most people fear the homeless for the wrong reasons...I've never seen a homeless person who would be interesting in stealing from someones home.

They are just looking for a place to exist.

Zoning may be a huge issue for sure, and would they stay there in the winter when it gets cold?

So many factors, this seems like a bad idea unless its done properly.

reply to post by infolurker

Agree, but do you want them in YOUR neighborhood? Many of the homeless are dangerous and unpredictable. As with any "group" there will be criminals, molesters, and rapist. Some may say that the "homeless" culture has a higher number of criminals on average. If you have young children who play in the neighborhood, do you want a homeless "transient" camp next door to you? Usually those who support such things support them "somewhere" else.

That is some disgusting, premeditated and regurgitated hogwash right there. Your conditioned mind is disgusting, there is no other word for it. Your false logic implies that even without the homeless people there, criminals molesters and rapists roam the streets.

The people there have the oppurtunity to help these less fortunate and their children could learn more than ANY school could teach them out of the kindness that could be offered and life experiences shared.

And of course there is higher criminal activity amongst those who have nothing and those who have had everything taken from them. YOUR VERY LAWS FORCE THEM INTO THIS. Disgusting...

Originally posted by infolurker
reply to post by Jessicamsa

 

Agree, but do you want them in YOUR neighborhood? Many of the homeless are dangerous and unpredictable. As with any "group" there will be criminals, molesters, and rapist. Some may say that the "homeless" culture has a higher number of criminals on average.

If you have young children who play in the neighborhood, do you want a homeless "transient" camp next door to you?

Usually those who support such things support them "somewhere" else.

I will be homeless again in a couple weeks. If I had a neighborhood, I'd welcome them with open arms.

The homeless culture has no higher of a rate of criminals than the unhomeless. Most of what homeless people are arrested for are stuff like loitering, vagrancy, panhandling, peeing in public, and similar. With the exception of panhandling, if they were not homeless the stuff they're arrested for wouldn't even be crimes. If they had homes then they could hang around the house. They would have a place to pee. They would have a bed to sleep in.

I identify with the homeless a lot more than I do with most people.

Originally posted by infolurker

... but do you want them in YOUR neighborhood?

... do you want a homeless "transient" camp next door to you?

How many people will answer this honestly?

I wouldn't want an encampment near me.

These kind of things belong in downtown metropolitan areas.

These people played the game of life and they came up losers.

There's no helping them now.

Originally posted by infolurker
reply to post by Jessicamsa

 

Agree, but do you want them in YOUR neighborhood?

NO - - I want them in YOUR neighborhood.

What? We're better off to let them live in sewers - under bridges - and abandoned buildings - - out of site - out of mind?

They ARE in YOUR neighborhood. If housing is provided - the only difference is you will see them.

Originally posted by infolurker
reply to post by Jessicamsa

 

Agree, but do you want them in YOUR neighborhood? Many of the homeless are dangerous and unpredictable. As with any "group" there will be criminals, molesters, and rapist. Some may say that the "homeless" culture has a higher number of criminals on average.

If you have young children who play in the neighborhood, do you want a homeless "transient" camp next door to you?

Usually those who support such things support them "somewhere" else.

Are those people anything different from the paedophiles wife bashers, drunks, coke addicts, rapists and white collar crims that live in the suburbs?

I go back to "if it were you...what would you want?"

If, by your own words, you truely want social condemnation, to be neglected and abused, if you want total ostracisation, obtuse moral judgment with acid moral relativism mixed in..you got it! Its your choice after all!

24 hrs, a forclosure or change of governement and that 'homeless person' IS you....it happens that quickly.

If you dont like 'unsightly housing' build better houses!

Allow people time and space to regrow their human DIGNITY...and productive things happen...keep treating people like scum..you get scum.

you reap what you sow.

reply to post by Zamini


Yes, plus these camps are 'home' to many homeless children. These are families that would be staying there. They are regular children. They should have as 'normal' of an existance as possible.

Why are these neighborhoods filled with people who are opposed to their children playing with homeless children?? How are the homeless children going to have a stable future if they grow up ostracized??

Originally posted by infolurker
reply to post by Jessicamsa

 

Many of the homeless are dangerous and unpredictable. As with any "group" there will be criminals, molesters, and rapist. Some may say that the "homeless" culture has a higher number of criminals on average.

Is that what your dad told you?

I live in Vancouver BC, There are more homeless people here then in mexico city.

Let me tell you something, these are human beings looking for a warm bed and a way to exist just like you and I.

Next time you're on the street, try my gig, give a homeless guy a bottle of water, shake his hand, ask him how his day is going and see the humanity in his eyes.

A wise guru once said that the homeless knew more about enlightenment then most in society ever will.

reply to post by Zamini


Yeah, Yeah,

Hater this, BullSh1t that. Facts are facts and a large percentage of "homeless" people are addicts and drunks and I have seen that first hand.

YOU can have them live at YOUR house. Practice what you preach.

Until then, stop being a hypocrite.


And by the way, If children are involved WHY ARE THEY NOT signed up for STATE AID?

Trust me, Welfare and food stamps will pay the bill.

Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Why are these neighborhoods filled with people who are opposed to their children playing with homeless children??

Would you want your children associating with homeless children?

Gimmie a friggin break.

Every town has another side of the tracks for a reason.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by Jessicamsa[/i

Why are these neighborhoods filled with people who are opposed to their children playing with homeless children??

Would you want your children associating with homeless children?

Gimmie a friggin break.

I will be homeless in couple weeks. My daughter will be a homeless child.