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What debris is left of the four 9/11 planes? Is it normal for planes to disintigrate on impact?

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posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 08:09 PM
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Flight 77

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f5e7f8e755f0.jpg[/atsimg]

Flight 93

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f590e2382dff.jpg[/atsimg]

Flight 175

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b7ffe930b678.jpg[/atsimg]

Flight 11

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9efb8ec6ad7e.jpg[/atsimg]

For comparison purposes let's look at the debris of ...

Turkish Airlines Flight 981

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f0771860462e.jpg[/atsimg]

Japan Airlines Flight 123

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/07c75e264888.jpg[/atsimg]

American Airlines Flight 191

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7b9038b7f8fc.png[/atsimg]
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posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 08:14 PM
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Excellent S+F

Something definitly doesn't add up about 9/11.

It's about damn time we have a reinvestigation.
Why worry so much if they have nothing to hide?



posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 08:44 PM
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Out where i live (china Lake)there are a lot of jets the navy has used for weapons testing and many that have become lawn darts after being hit by air to air weapons

All that is left of many that have become lawn darts are little pieces of bent metal in a large crater even the engines come apart into very small pieces.
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posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 09:00 PM
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Im sorry, could you find some pictures of 757s and 767s after they have had high speed impacts with buildings for comparision?

Showing pictures of crash sites of aircraft trying NOT to crash, really doesnt compare to those of the crash sites of airliners being flown on suicide missions.



posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 09:24 PM
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I take it you have not been to REAL crash scene. High speed, high angle crashes reduces aircraft to little
more than "metallic confetti" with some larger pieces surviving the impact

Witnessed aftermath of crash in my town (below to FD) - excerpts from NY TIMES article on crash


A twin-engine airplane crashed into a hillside minutes after taking off today, erupting into flames and missing a large condominium project and several houses by a short distance.



An investigator for the board, Chauncey Twine, said the airplane crashed at an 80-degree angle, clipping trees and landing amid rocks and boulders at 3:15. An explosion followed, sending flames higher than treetops, residents said.



Airplane parts were scattered in small pieces throughout the site on Garrett Mountain. Flames Higher Than Treetops



Federal, police and fire investigators sifted through the remains. The parts of the plane were scattered beneath trees, shrubs and rocks, and the smell of jet fuel permeated the air


Larger piece found was 2 x 3 ft section of tail fin and a landing gear light which struck parked car 75 yards away.

Answer is yes - aircraft often reduced to small fragments



posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

The problem with your post is the comparison really does not fit the situation.

A) High speed vs. low speed where the pilot is trying to save the aircraft.
B) Hitting a structure vs. not.
C) Aircraft engine configuration: tail mounted engines vs. wing-mounted engines.
D) Age of aircraft: old 727 style aircraft vs. newer fuel-efficient composite constructed aircraft.

For example, the reason that most of the older aircraft crash sites have a tail debris, is because most of your older aircraft had additional structure in the tail to support tail mounted engines.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by arkaNd

Why worry so much if they have nothing to hide?


I agree.

Where is the debris at?

Does anyone know?



posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 10:59 PM
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Yeah, where is it? Didn't they completely reassemble PamAm 800 from all the wreckage as part of their investigation?



posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by glitchinthematrix

Yeah, where is it?

Didn't they completely reassemble PamAm 800 from all the wreckage as part of their investigation?


Excellent point glitch.

However, I think you may be referring to TWA Flight 800

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TWA flight 800 crashed into the ocean, and yet it was reconstructed.

Where are the 9/11 flight debris reconstructions?
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posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by glitchinthematrix

Yeah, where is it?

Didn't they completely reassemble PamAm 800 from all the wreckage as part of their investigation?


Excellent point glitch.

However, I think you may be referring to TWA Flight 800

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b3f4d5b6febe.jpg[/atsimg]

TWA flight 800 crashed into the ocean, and yet it was reconstructed.

Where are the 9/11 flight debris reconstructions?
edit on 12-10-2010 by In nothing we trust because: (no reason given)


There won't be any reconstructions because they can't even produce the serial numbers for the planes, or any evidence that it was the alleged flights.

People act like in the "normal crash" scenario the plane is only dropping at a speed of 5 MPH. Just because it isn't going full-throttle 500 MPH for the ground, I can assure you that a plane full of passengers is headed to the ground pretty fast, just as gravity intended.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Where are the 9/11 flight debris reconstructions?


Just stop and think for yourself for a minute - just why do they reconstruct aicraft that accidentally crash - exactly what are they trying to find out?

Then you will know why the 9/11 aircraft were not reconstructed



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Big Trouble in Little Chi

There won't be any reconstructions because they can't even produce the serial numbers for the planes, or any evidence that it was the alleged flights.

People act like in the "normal crash" scenario the plane is only dropping at a speed of 5 MPH. Just because it isn't going full-throttle 500 MPH for the ground.


Japan Airlines Flight 123 slammed into a mountain top when the pilot had lost all hydraulic control and was flying the plane by throttling the engines up and down.

American Airlines Flight 191 crashed on take off which means the plane was going at full throttle.

Do you think this guy was giving it all he had when he hit?

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And I'm positive that you are correct.

There are no 9/11 plane reconstructions.
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posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:34 AM
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Plane reconstructions are used in aircraft accidents to find the cause where the cause is unknown.
we know that the 9-11 aircraft were flown into the buildings so why would they reconstruct the air craft.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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The FBI reported that 95% of Flight 93 was recovered. I don't see why they don't try to piece it back together, even if it's shattered into tiny pieces. I'll do it. Just help me get into this underground Iron Mountain facility where it's being held.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by Pipebomb24875
I don't see why they don't try to piece it back together, even if it's shattered into tiny pieces.


Why would they waste million of dollars to do that? You think they should do it for no reason but to make some conspiracy theorists happy?

Just why do you think they piece planes that have accidents back together, at huge expense?



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 03:39 AM
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Actually not that I am a believer in the official story... But it is feasable for a plane to totally disintigrate.



Though I seriously doubt this is the results of the 911 atrocities.



Korg.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Here is one picture from the Pentagon:



Aircraft debris!



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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reply to post by In nothing we trust
 


Just a note: thats not a comparison of "debris", just a comparison of photos of crash sites.

It proves, conclusively, that different crash sites look different. Good work.



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by GenRadek
Here is one picture from the Pentagon:



Aircraft debris!


Is it?

How much do you think this pile of junk weighs?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c57476bb81f8.jpg[/atsimg]

What do you think the piles of debris from other aircraft disasters looks like piled up?
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posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Where are the 9/11 flight debris reconstructions?


Just stop and think for yourself for a minute - just why do they reconstruct aicraft that accidentally crash - exactly what are they trying to find out?

Then you will know why the 9/11 aircraft were not reconstructed


There are no aircraft reconstructions because there are no questions as to what actually occured on 9/11?

I see



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