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Pedophiles - 'Brand' them like the animals they are

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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 01:16 PM
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You herd of survival of the fittest. How about unsurvival of the wickedest? All of the PCness around here is going to be our demise.

MOTF!



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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This is a question for all of you that are defending these demons.

Do you think it's possible to change your sexual preferences? In other words, if you are attracted to men, can you be counseled into only being attracted to women and never be with another man ever?
You cannot just change what "turns you on." You can be counseled till the cows come home, but it cannot change the true you, believe me, I've seen it.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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I am NOT defending them, I am bashing the crowd mentality here



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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Repeatedly said not defending them ...

As for your question, take a look at some of the links in my previous post with the word myths in it. The New York one discusses it a bit I think. There's lots of studies around that will be much more informative than emotive half buttocked responses you might otherwise receive.

By all means stick to your guns, but please do it whilst being aware of the information from the experts.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 01:52 PM
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Branding them won't prevent them from assaulting children. Sure, people will look at them and recognize who they are, but it won't physically stop them from doing anything. I could see this leading to even worse crimes done out of anger and contempt for the system after being publicly marked in such a way. In my opinion, the best option is to separate them from society so that they have no possibility of contact with children.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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Not so much in favor of branding them. I would lean more towards life imprisonment with no possibility of parole or death penalty. That way, even though the reported recidivism rates are low, we would not have to worry about them re-offending and a clearer message is sent to those that are predators. Serving a few years in prison doesn't seem like a good deterrent to me.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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why is molesting wrong (anyones lifestyle is just as valid as anothers)


That you can even ask is too unsettling to even contemplate... I think it's time you return to your pond.
 


ADDED NOTE:



There are a few posts here I'd really like to be able to reply to - I'll take them off line and write my reply off line and then try to post in a bit. The point of this note? My computer is acting extremely unstable. So no, I'm not abandoning the thread, just have an unreliable and unstable computer at the moment.

Anyway - hope to be back with some replies soon.

thanks



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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I know that This is one of the Tactics of "Them", but I'm still not EXACTLY sure how it works...

But Certainly, Adding Legislation to Government Code for the same crime TWICE, seems a tad Redundant, at the Least, to me.

Especially with the penalties I have heard mentioned....



Are you seriously wanting to add MORE laws against the thing that is Already Illegal?

At least... in Your Country.





Different Cultures View Courtship Rituals, and Sexual Consent in ways that are different from those where you live.


If you are talking about Killing a Child, then you are talking about the Crime of Murder.


If you are talking about Raping a child, you are talking about the Crime of Rape.


Kidnapping.

Murder in the First, Second, Third, etc....


These laws ALL CURRENTLY APPLY to any Nefarious Ner Do Wells who want to abscond with your preciouses...


Y'all Huntin Witches.


-Edrick



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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From your "source"


People --even kids-- look out for each other in public places.

Yea, ask John Walsh how crowded malls protected his son, and how strangers are not a threat.
I do agree that most offenders are relatives though, that's who got me.

Btw, I see no footnotes or source citations in that article, for all I know, it's just made up by pedo's. and Wikipedia is never a reliable source,imo.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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I apologize, I think you're being as much a deranged pervert as those you are in opposition to.

We have a system for handling the problem. It's called the courts, and incarceration for the guilty.

All you want is to rub yourself off on the thought of another human being squealing in pain because you can't tell the difference between justice, revenge, and sadism.


Thanks for your opinion.

As for the sick remark? Hey, I view the source, lol.

As for the court system 'working' and incarceration for the guilty? Let's just say if you're going to stick with that opinion you might want to review the FACTS first. Do a little search on how many children have been brutally raped, and killed, by RE-OFFENDERS, who've been through the court sytem over and over and over again, and then try and tell me the 'system works'... lol



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:11 PM
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Do a little search on how many children have been brutally raped, and killed, by RE-OFFENDERS, who've been through the court sytem over and over and over again, and then try and tell me the 'system works'... lol


I don't think the system was Designed to work, actually.

-Edrick



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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Im all for stricter laws for pedophilia but the problem is we go after too many people on these witch hunts, and so many non pedophiles are being arrested. These people should not also suffer the harshest punishment like true pedophiles should.
Nature tells a man to be attracted to a woman. The younger the woman, the more attractive (fertility, ripe beauty, etc). How do we define a woman? Nature throws out obvious signs. Pubic hair, voice change, etc.

So if we can truly go after only the sickos that target legitimate underage people, then lets increase the punishment. Its the "no ones gonna touch my princess" unrealistic attitude that enables these real pedophiles to get away with the crime relatively easily.

Just the other day there was a story of an 18 year old with a 15 year old. A "child molester" to the witch hunters but not nearly as bad as the true molester (i.e the man who talks a pre-pubescent girl or boy into sex). So as long as the teen gets a lighter sentence, why wouldn't the true sicko argue for a lighter sentence.

Lets only get the people who truly commit crimes against nature! Then we have a clear template to increase penalties for them!



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by sickofitall2012
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From your "source"


People --even kids-- look out for each other in public places.

Yea, ask John Walsh how crowded malls protected his son, and how strangers are not a threat.
I do agree that most offenders are relatives though, that's who got me.

Btw, I see no footnotes or source citations in that article, for all I know, it's just made up by pedo's. and Wikipedia is never a reliable source,imo.


Use some logic. Please. You've gone through something terrible. This doesn't make you objective.

Ask my Grand Mother how crossing the road is safe. She was hit by a bus. Perhaps we should ban buses? If anything being paranoid about strangers just makes our society less safe in my opinion. I also believe strong appeals to emotion make our society less safe. 9/11 and Afghanistan? That was a pretty emotionally charged move.

And which article were you looking at? And where did wikipedia distort its statistics?

I'm going to skip the bureau of justice statistics - I seriously doubt they let pedos publish articles there.
The New York State of Criminal Justice Services ... written by pedos? No. And references are there..

For the reform sex offenders link ... Most of their stats are from the bureau in the first place. All stats and studies in that article appear to be cited clearly for you to check. The rest of it is opinion and interpretation which you don't have to share but it at least gives some information. For the record I don't agree with certain opinions by this page but it provides an overview.

Wikipedia is cited. There are plenty of resources that disagree with what you say about wikipedia, but even then it's numbers ... numbers that agree with its references ... which agree with other studies on the same topic.

constitutionalfights.wordpress ... Linking to state Ohio records and other such things. How much more cited does this need to be? It's pretty much just a page of studies.

The Australian article has over 8 pages of end notes and citations ...

Am mainly targeting persons making sweeping incorrect statements involving mathematics. You can't just say 'sex offenders reoffend again and again and again' and not back it up. And asking an emotional web forum loaded questions is not going to give you the answers you seek ... unless all you want is an angry mob?


edit on 7-10-2010 by Pinke because: Australian Article



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:35 PM
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we should have a like get together of all phedophiles, gays, illegal immigrants etc etc like a national holiday come to blah blah island for free food etc etc then just nuke all of them problem solved



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Evanzsayz
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we should have a like get together of all phedophiles, gays, illegal immigrants etc etc like a national holiday come to blah blah island for free food etc etc then just nuke all of them problem solved


You forgot commies, socialists and blacks ;-)



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:44 PM
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Are you really comparing homosexals and illegals to pedo's?
Not funny, not funny at all.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:46 PM
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Could you expand on the "etc etc" part of your post? I want to see who else you'd like to see killed. Don't hold back, posting this stuff is probably therapeutic for you.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:46 PM
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what about the habitual drunks, white collar criminals, drug users/dealers, people who speed, cheat on their taxes....lets nuke ALL these people

You know, if we did that, there would be NOONE left here...
let me part with this:

John 8: 7 - “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

bottom line noone among us is innocent of EVERYTHING, we would ALL be on that island to be nuked



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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What seems crazy to me is someone defending pedofiles. Its crazy in my head that someone would want to allow a pedofile that cannot be changed to walk the street.

This world has become casterated.

MOTF!



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 02:53 PM
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Are you really comparing homosexals and illegals to pedo's?


Are you Comparing Pedo's to Murderers?

-Edrick




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