Sen. Jim DeMint: Gays And Unmarried, Pregnant Women Should Not Teach Public School

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Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) attempted to convince pastors that economic issues are moral issues at the Greater Freedom Rally at a church in Spartanburg, South Carolina yesterday, imploring them to help conservatives retake Congress in November.

Sorry DeMint, but economic issues are separate from Social issues entirely. I detest the economic degradation currently occurring in our nation, but I do not derive my opinions on these contentious issues from the 'holy book'. When I think about supporting or opposing minimum wage I am not thinking about the morality behind the decision I am thinking about the results that would occur due to my choice which would impact the economy which would impact the society at large. When I think about gay marriage I am thinking about the freedoms of the individual to make a choice that will affect their lives (besides gay marriage shouldn't be an issue for the public, it's a private issue whether they want to marry or not).

In addition to reiterating anti-choice talking points on abortion and backing "traditional marriage," according to the Spartanburg Herald-Journal, the senator went further and "said if someone is openly homosexual, they shouldn't be teaching in the classroom and he holds the same position on an unmarried woman who's sleeping with her boyfriend -- she shouldn't be in the classroom."

Let me first ask how you intend to discriminate, yep that is the correct word, which people are homosexual or not? Are you going to listen to the way they speak, watch the way they act, have fellow teachers or students turn them in, stalk them? How would you discriminate against them DeMint?

So now unless the name has 'Mrs.' in front of it and she is pregnant she must be punished by the state for the personal decisions made by herself and her boyfriend? Why? Because it will 'send a bad message to kids' is that why!?

Controversy over DeMint's position on this issue first arose in 2004 during a Senate debate, when he was asked whether he agreed with the state party's platform that said openly gay teachers should be barred from teaching public school. DeMint said he agreed with that position because government shouldn't be endorsing certain behaviors.

How the hell is allowing a teacher to teach while at the same time being homosexual endorsing certain behaviors? So if the school hires a lesbian they are endorsing homosexuality by hiring this individual?

THIS IS ASBOLUTE TRASH!

Ah, this fight was fought long ago. Whether an unmarried pregnant woman should be allowed to teach in the public school system. The hard-core right wing lost that battle. They cannot dictate morality, or legislate law which infringes on one's personal liberties. I suppose private schools could make this type call.

I'm curious though, I wonder what planet they think these children are going to be living on when they grow up?
Certainly not this one.

reply to post by Misoir


Tell me Misoir, how is this different than say a Religious person?

I mean really, is the religion going to seep into the kids?

Is the homosexuality going to seep into the kids?

Sounds like the familiar rhetoric espoused by those that want to dictate social issues. You definitely need to push the Libertarian ideals. The best of both worlds. Freedom and Liberty. Wink wink, say no more.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


I am now a recent convert to Classical liberalism. I guess you missed my thread?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Ridiculous to set standards on who teach kids. If your qualified your qualified. Especially when it comes to the education of the future generation. How can they say someone is not allowed to be taught when it is there passion. I would much rather have someone who is pregnant and unmarried but who is qualified to teach my kids and are passionate about there work than some married lady with 34 kids and a horrible attitude.

The futile words of a dying breed of men.

That's all this is.

He has NO impact on us. Sure the religions right (or left) may cater to his way of thinking, but they are still the ways of old grumpy men, who soon will be dead and forgotten and the world will move forward.

I'm only worried when I see young politicians blabbing off this nonsense.

I hope the door hits Mr. DeMint very hard on his way out.

~Keeper

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He's in the heart of the Bible Belt and the Southern Baptist area, when/if the door hits him it won't be due to his radical views such as these because most in the Deep South believe such things as this, it's quite common. Trust me I live around this stuff.

You know what the sickest part of this story is?

My own fellow American's elected this DeMint clown.

reply to post by Misoir


No, I read that thread. Does not mean that you have changed your rhetoric, you may have only changed your skin.

As they say, it only takes actions, not words.

I have ALWAYS been about freedoms of the social, ALWAYS.

You have only recently been about the economic freedoms, I find it the same as everything else, only actions will suffice.

As for this component, I could care less, as long as the people have the choice. Choice it has always been and always be.

I am me and you are you, I do not care what you decide, I only care what may effect me. Yes, there are idiots out there that may tell you or me what to do, I will defend your right to decide, will you defend mine?

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I believe the rhetoric is officially changed, but I will continue to call out the ones on the Right and Left who I believe are wrong and/or frauds.

And to answer the question yes, we must all defend each others freedoms.

reply to post by Misoir


Doooood.

I have always stated that is the man that can defend another's choices, even though it goes against their own beliefs, to be the one that should be heralded.

Are you to be heralded?

Time will tell.

Anyway, time will tell. I think you Misoir, someone that can logically discern the possibilities, will lead us into the next millennium. You started as a proponent of socialism, that has redeeming qualities, but you see it's propensity for demagoguery. I feel that those of the next generation, do have the mechanics that are necessary for the next step. Yes, capitalism fails in some components, maybe you will come up with something that we have missed.

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower

 

I am now a recent convert to Classical liberalism. I guess you missed my thread?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Welcome to the party. Dues are due Wednesday, bring beer as a substitute if you want.

Click here for more information.

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

He's in the heart of the Bible Belt and the Southern Baptist area, when/if the door hits him it won't be due to his radical views such as these because most in the Deep South believe such things as this, it's quite common. Trust me I live around this stuff.

You do? I find myself agreeing with some of your post Misoir, but here I am calling BS. I also live around "this stuff" as you call it.
Why the stereo typing? That kinda makes you a bigot. You mind as well have said "most gays are immoral" or "most minorities are lazy", or "most whites are greedy and self centered".
A single pregnant woman should be able to teach if she is qualified but if she is pushing single parenthood in the class room then she needs to go. Same for a gay teacher, if he/she is pushing that life style then they need to be showed the door.
Did DeMint put his foot in his mouth? Possibly. Will he be voted out? No. We all say and do things that we should not, don't we Misior?

reply to post by Misoir


These are the types that need to be rooted from the system. I respect his personal opinion, however wrong I may think it is, but this is the typical morality based glorified thought that comes out of all politicians nowadays.

The majority of Republicans think we are too stupid to understand right from wrong, understand the ills of society and believe they are the Godsend to correct our errors in thinking. Theirs being morals

The majority of the Democrats think we are too stupid to understand right from wrong, understand the ills of society and believe they are the Godsend to correct our errors in thinking. Theirs being social

No, I did no mess up by typing the same thing.

Senator DeMint is pandering. Any politician that panders obviously has no principles or convictions in their ability to lead in the position they were elected to administer. He knows that there is a growing animosity, soon to turn fury in regards to the handling and administering of duties held by representatives. Its time to shore up your shoe ins before you lose them too.

Luckily and proudly that while a lot of people stereotype Southerns as just Bible-thumping, backwater hicks; this is far from reality. They are typically (the ones we do not hear about constantly) good, honest people that want whats best for their selves and their communities.

Hopefully in the next 2-4 years we see a shift from politicians to statesmen(persons/women for those that cannot handle the word "men" at the end of things.)

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Misoir

 

Tell me Misoir, how is this different than say a Religious person?

I mean really, is the religion going to seep into the kids?

Is the homosexuality going to seep into the kids?

Sounds like the familiar rhetoric espoused by those that want to dictate social issues. You definitely need to push the Libertarian ideals. The best of both worlds. Freedom and Liberty. Wink wink, say no more.

The difference is that he is not saying that religious people shouldn't teach children. He is saying that Homosexuals and Unmarried Pregnant women shouldn't teach.

Religious people are teaching in puiblic schools everywhere...they are just not teaching religious orthodoxy in public schools.

Nor would a an unmarried pregnant woman be teaching promiscuity or a homosexual teacher be teaching homosexuality.

This fact seems obvious.

Your post is confusing to me at best...if I am reading reading it correctly it seems both ignorant and intentionally divisive.

Our education system sucks, how about we find the best and the brightest teachers and leave moral tyranny out of the equation.

reply to post by Misoir


U.S. Senator= blowhard,windbag. These are the homophobic,idiots that are running your country. AND their all RICH, millionaires and billionaires! (I think Barney Frank is the poorest U.S. Representative he's only worth a little over 900K.) AND your paying their salary! Everything that they do is on YOUR dime! AND they're giving trillions away to the Banksters and Wall Street! So how are you doing lately? How's it goin? Is your mortgage upside down yet? Are you living paycheck to paycheck? Are YOU working two or more jobs just to make ends meet? How much more of this crap can we take?