Really amazing UFO video was recorded on Friday - February 19, 2010 CARDIFF WALES.

Really amazing UFO video was recorded on Friday - February 19, 2010 at 8:05 pm in Britain's hotspot Cardiff. Footage is showing a V-shaped air-craft and I think two other objects flying around it or maybe there are two V-shaped UFOs.

This is quite some video of a cluster or singular UFO with probes around it. Video quality could be better but easy to see what we are looking at.

Thats an interesting video.
Something about it seems very familiar though and also a bit "fishy".
Id like to see where this one leads, maybe some of our more knowledgeable members can enlighten us.

In the meantime Ill just keep on lurking and intermittently posting useless comments.

I wanna say birds but after looking more closely its obviously a squadron of radio controlled chinese lanterns. Obviously.

I am also waiting for the A team to show up.
This video has been on youtube for a month.
I am surprised there were not more responses and comments.
The consensus there was geese.

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Geese? Their consensus is a bit dubious in my opinion. This is filmed at night and I have not ever seen geese that look like little balls of light. But who knows. I like this vid. The same thing has been filmed in other countries in the last 3 years.

I was thinking birds as well. But could be anything really, guess that's why they call em unidentified.

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L1U2C3I4F5E6R.....

For interest's sake, you might like to know the video you just posted (above) has been discussed in detail in my thread:

UFO in In Night Vision Video

The person who took the video joined the discussion.

Regarding the video that is the subject of your thread:

I'm pretty sure I can see "flapping" on several occasions. That combined with the nature of the movement & the general appearance of the objects leads me to conclude the "birds" option cannot be excluded based on the available information.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Can I ask, seriously, what use is stuff like this, with no context, no technical information, no nothing. Is this not the original source, and if it is, it wasn't worth the author offering any comments? It's a giveaway to YouTube garbage.

BTW, it's geese... They are quite distant, slightly blurred and the sensor blooming inherent in IR footage tends to turn them into little blobs. Here's the daylight view up closer..

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I may be wrong about this but if these were geese at night wouldnt they need some kind of IR sensor on them to even show up on IR.

The reason I say this is because that I am in the army and on our ACU's we have IR sensors. We are told to keep these covered up unless told otherwise. The reason they give for this is becuase our helicopters use these to identify friendlies on the ground. Also when the birds are in the air during the day it can possibly blind the pilots if these IR sensors arent covered.

So I guess my question is why are these geese blurring without any sensor on them?

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Gnarkill1529.....

So I guess my question is why are these geese blurring without any sensor on them?

When you ask "why are these geese blurring", are you refering to the "pixilation" effect that is being caused by the poor quality of the video?

Or, do you mean something else?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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MMN,

"Blurring," was a poor choice of word there. What I meant was why are these geese lit up in IR if they have no sensor on them?

Originally posted by gnarkill1529
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MMN,
"Blurring," was a poor choice of word there. What I meant was why are these geese lit up in IR if they have no sensor on them?

Gnarkill1529.....

OK.....

I thought that's what you meant.

I have viewed many "night vision" videos that demonstrate birds with exactly this appearance.

That's why I say the "birds" option cannot be excluded based on available information.

On balance, I think we'll find its several birds, as per the very sharp & experienced "eye" of CHRLZ.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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MMN,

Once again correct me if im wrong here but isnt nightvision and IR to completly different things?

I could understand if CHRLZ said nightvision but he specifically said IR. Which is why I questioned why they were lit up.

But to the point of it being birds I totally agree with you on that.

I usually dont post a lot on ATS but normally do read many threads and I respect the opinions of you and some of the other posters on here that a very active on ATS.

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
For interest's sake, you might like to know the video you just posted (above) has been discussed in detail in my thread:

People ought to use ATS search once in a while Seems I remember YOU mentioning that once or twice, but I might be wrong...

Night Vision UFO's Clear footage
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by gnarkill1529

Night vision involves light amplification devices which utilize visible light as well as near infrared frequencies. So, in a sense, it is infrared imaging but it is not exclusively infrared. Because it does involve amplification, brighter sources of light do tend to cause saturation of the sensors, causing them to appear larger than they actually are.

Infrared thermal imaging is a completely different technology which involves mid to far infrared wavelengths.

What we are seeing is the former. And it is birds.

Originally posted by gnarkill1529
reply to post by CHRLZ

 

I may be wrong about this but if these were geese at night wouldnt they need some kind of IR sensor on them to even show up on IR.

The reason I say this is because that I am in the army and on our ACU's we have IR sensors. We are told to keep these covered up unless told otherwise. The reason they give for this is becuase our helicopters use these to identify friendlies on the ground. Also when the birds are in the air during the day it can possibly blind the pilots if these IR sensors arent covered.

So I guess my question is why are these geese blurring without any sensor on them?

Well, it depends on the IR bandwidth in use, whether there is amplification being used, and also how much light in that range that might have been illuminatiing them - for all we know from the extensive description there might have been a sports stadium or even forest fire beneath them.. .

I don't know the full details and characteristics of this camera.. for very obvious reasons - no information was supplied!! That's the point I was trying to make earlier. When something is 'presented' in such a way, my alarm bells go off immediately. And, blurring can also simply be that the user hasn't focused on them accurately.

My geese comment was partly flippant (but they sure look hellishly like geese..) - I get a bit tired of chasing the original authors down and asking them the questions that should not need to be asked...

It's a conspiracy I tells ya - these people are doing everything in their power to waste people's time so the really interesting stuff gets lost in the maze!!

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Gnarkill1529.....

Once again correct me if im wrong here but isnt nightvision and IR to completly different things?

That is also my understanding.

There are several members who can discuss this with much more expertise than can I.....& I can see they have already started to do that!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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Phage,

Thank you for clearing that up for me. As I said before I tend to lean towards birds on this one with the movement being so erratic. But there are other videos as zorgon has posted above in his other thread that make me wonder.

Once again many thanks

Originally posted by gnarkill1529 But there are other videos as zorgon has posted above in his other thread that make me wonder.

Birds in this one... but that is not birds in the other one.. IMO

In ALL the bird ones, they do not stay in formation, wander all over... but those 5 in dede's flim stay in formation, though I am inclined towards a single 'craft' on that one

Originally posted by gnarkill1529
Once again correct me if im wrong here but isnt nightvision and IR to completly different things?

That's a very fair point, gnarkill, and I will take that on board in future. Yes, they are different, but they tend to be used interchangeably, there is no strict definition, and many systems use both IR and amplification (if we assume that 'night vision' means amplification..).

Almost always, when a camera offers night vision in any form, the camera sensor will not have an IR filter in front of it, either because it doesn't have one (ie a dedicated night-vision-only camera), or it moves it out of the way when you switch NV on. Even 'normal' digital imaging sensors are quite sensitive to IR and UV near the visible spectrum, so they have filters to screen most of that out normally. If you take those filters off, they 'become' IR sensitive and good for low light, but the colours get screwed...

In low-end cameras, NV often involves moving the IR/UV filter out of the way, and then slowing the shutter speed down. But other cameras use specialised sensors with electronic amplification systems, and then others use sensors designed to work at very different bandwidths, eg heat-imaging cameras, and then there are combinations of all those...

OK, now I'm waffling. Sorry! Hope that may help some readers, and I'm open to correction from those more into this stuff..

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I tend to agree with you on that the good stuff does get lost in translation when you have so many videos and sightings on the internet these days without having any real information.

I am definetly no expert when it comes to imaging which is why im glad you and phage could answer my questions for me

And I could see where it would get tiring trying to chase down the authors of these videos when in most cases the more logical answer is normally the right one.