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Originally posted by JoshNorton
By extension, then, are you suggesting that Judaism is connected to some systems of government? You're suggesting that "systems of government" would be the commonality between Freemasonry and the Jews. I don't see it...
Same team???
Originally posted by dontreally
Please, freemasonry, Hitler, Vatican, prtoestantism, Islam, all on the same team..
The Nazis claimed that high degree Masons were willing members of "the Jewish conspiracy" and that Freemasonry was one of the causes of Germany's loss of the First World War. In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler writes that Freemasonry has "succumbed" to the Jews and has become an "excellent instrument" to fight for their aims and to use their "strings" to pull the upper strata of society into their alleged designs. He continues, "The general pacifistic paralysis of the national instinct of self-preservation begun by Freemasonry" is then transmitted to the masses of society by the press. In 1933 Hermann Göring, the Reichstag President and one of the key figures in the process of Gleichschaltung ("synchronization"), states "..in National Socialist Germany, there is no place for Freemasonry."
The Enabling Act (Ermächtigungsgesetz in German) was passed by Germany's parliament (the Reichstag) on March 23, 1933. Using the "Act", on January 8, 1934 the German Ministry of the Interior ordered the disbandment of Freemasonry, and confiscation of the property of all Lodges; stating that those who had been members of Lodges when Hitler came to power, in January 1933, were prohibited from holding office in the Nazi party or its paramilitary arms, and were ineligible for appointment in public service. Consistently considered an ideological foe of Nazism in their world perception (Weltauffassung), special sections of the Security Service (SD) and later the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA) were established to deal with the Freemasonry. Freemasonic concentration camp inmates were graded as “Political” prisoners, and wore an inverted (point down) red triangle.
The preserved records of the RSHA - Reichssicherheitshauptamt Office of the High Command of Security Service pursuing the racial objectives of the SS through Race and Resettlement Office, show the persecution of the Freemasons. The number of Freemasons from Nazi occupied countries who were killed is not accurately known, but it is estimated that between 80,000 and 200,000 Freemasons were murdered under the Nazi regime.*
Death penalty for being a Freemason? In the 21st century? And because it supposedly promotes "Zionist principles"?
There was a time when there existed a number of lodges in Iraq when the country was under British Mandate just after the First World War. However the position changed in July 1958 following the Revolution, with the abolition of the Monachy and Iraq being declared a republic, under General Quessiem. The licences permitting lodges to meet were rescinded and later laws were introduced banning any further meetings. This position was later reinforced under Saddam Hussein the death penalty was "prescribed" for those who "promote or acclaim Zionist principles, including freemasonry, or who associate [themselves] with Zionist organizations."*
And the same goes for Masons because they allow Jews to join the fraternity. How many Masons have been killed for "some phantom crime that's been accredited to them"???
All Jews therefore become zionists and guilty of some phantom crime thats been accredited to them....
Originally posted by fianna
Originally posted by JoshNorton
By extension, then, are you suggesting that Judaism is connected to some systems of government? You're suggesting that "systems of government" would be the commonality between Freemasonry and the Jews. I don't see it...
Well I didnt use the word judaism i used jewery which was hitlers terminology not mine. Maybe there is not a difference but i think so. From what I read hitler saw a commonality between the masons, jews and bankers.
Originally posted by Boomer1941
Some interesting replies here.
I just finished reading a book some weeks ago that might shed some light on all this, if memory serves me it was entitled "Secret History of the Jesuits" or "Secret History of the Jesuit Order". This book is a freebie download from Google/books as I remember. It really sheds some light on the true power these "Warrior-Monks" had throughout the centuries in creating history as we know it, or should I say as we think we know it, and the control and influence they had over nations. Anyone interested in Secret Societies, Ignatius Loyola, Germany WWI and WWII up to the 70's or 80's this is a must read in my opinion.
I have to side with the theory of the Catholic Church/Jesuit Order being ultimately responsible for the demise of Freemasonry in Nazi Germany.
My personal opinion, those who want to go down that road have read too much Dan Brown. I don't buy the "sacred feminine" or "generative principle" hoopla that I've seen on a lot of anti-masonic blogs.
Originally posted by TheLoneArcher
reply to post by JoshNorton
Josh, I have a question that you may be able to answer. Regarding our Compass and Gauge symbol, it reminds me of the two chevrons represent the masculine and the feminine, which dates way back in history.