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Originally posted by Calender
Of course earth’s atmosphere protects earth from a barrage of debris that rains down on us on a daily basis. The atmosphere while protecting us from dangerous debris, and radiation, allows beneficial light, and heat to get through. So it also serves as a filter that allows just the right amount of electromagnetic radiation needed for life through. Our atmosphere also helps to distribute heat, and acts as a blanket at night so the heat does not escape to fast into space.
These are but just a few of the very awesome facts that make the earth and its sun and the solar system we journey with it in around our Milky Way galaxy incredible.
So the next time you see a news story about a new exoplanetary system contemplate all of the aforementioned, and ask yourself. Have they found another system quite like ours?
Originally posted by Segador
Originally posted by Calender
Of course earth’s atmosphere protects earth from a barrage of debris that rains down on us on a daily basis. The atmosphere while protecting us from dangerous debris, and radiation, allows beneficial light, and heat to get through. So it also serves as a filter that allows just the right amount of electromagnetic radiation needed for life through. Our atmosphere also helps to distribute heat, and acts as a blanket at night so the heat does not escape to fast into space.
These are but just a few of the very awesome facts that make the earth and its sun and the solar system we journey with it in around our Milky Way galaxy incredible.
So the next time you see a news story about a new exoplanetary system contemplate all of the aforementioned, and ask yourself. Have they found another system quite like ours?
Every Solar system and every planet out there is unique, asking that question is like asking if we will ever find another person that is quite like me. Yes you will find someone who resembles you and acts like you but he will not have the same DNA.
There is a planet out there that looks like Earth with Air like Earth and a Star like our sun, there is a chance that there is a Solar system very similar to ours but it won't be exactly like ours.
Firstly, our solar system is in an ideal spot in the Milky Way Galaxy.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Calender
Well....(not peeing all over your work, just quibbling with some of the more blatant assumptions. SOME things you mention are not up for argument, though. Like, the fact that WE are here, and our planet is fairly stable, because of our fortuitous Moon...but, it isn't as simple as all that, either...).
Early on, in just the opening post, I had a great deal of difficulty with this:
Firstly, our solar system is in an ideal spot in the Milky Way Galaxy.
??? Come on! No way to make a statement that absolute, because we KNOW LITTLE about the Galaxy!!
There is still much to explore, and discover. Our distance and remoteness? Nice, and useful for us..but there's a LOT of Galaxy too...
Originally posted by frozenspark
I remember reading an article stating that a planet just like ours was discovered in some remote galaxy (could be even our own) that contains water and is close enough to it's sun to sustain life.
Now, if there are some differences, I am sure that life on that planet could ADAPT to the different conditions. If radiation there is higher, for example, than life simply has higher tolerance of radiation and so forth
Originally posted by frozenspark
reply to post by Calender
I think this may be it, though I read it on CNN
www.dailymail.co.uk...
it was so long that I read this article, it is very possible that it is not some remote galaxy but our own Milky Way. But the point remains, there are planets out there that have conditions that could sustain life.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Calender
I get what you're saying, and I do like to read SA...
...but, think about it. We are in the "backwaters" of ONE of the spiral arms (we really don't know for sure the EXACT shape of this Galaxy, we have to guess a bit, and compare to others that we can see, from afar...so, observations seem to point to the "spiral" shape...still, we ARE observing from within. It's like, trying to figure out what your house looks like, but you can't leave it to look back at it....you can see the houses across the street, though....).
However, there ARE other 'arms', and locations of equi-distance from the center (wehre, yes...conditions likely are NOT conducive for our carbon-based fragile lifeforms' benefit).
PLUS, you forget to think in three dimensions, too. Space is VAST.....
[edit on 26 August 2010 by weedwhacker]
Originally posted by Calender
One is the nearly circular orbit that our planets have around our central star, the sun. Almost all exo-planetary systems have very ecliptic orbits, not circular at all.
Two, is the position of our planets in the solar system seems to be unique. Not only are all of the orbits circular but the larger planets are in the outer solar system. Again almost uniformly all exoplanetary system discovered to date have huge planets in the inner solar system.
Not very long and it probably takes something like three years to make the first conclusive discoveries, of earth type planets/orbits, so it hasn't even been that long. I expect to hear some interesting discoveries announced in 2012-2016 resulting from the Kepler mission but the mission is still in its infancy now.
NASA's Kepler mission was launched on March 6, 2009. Unlike previous searches, it is sensitive to planets as small as Earth, and with orbital periods as long as a year.
note that most of the observed planets have very eccentric orbits, or orbit very close to the sun where the temperature is too high for earth-like life. However, several planetary systems that look more solar-system-like are known, such as HD 70642, HD 154345, or Gliese 849. These may well have smaller, as yet unseen, earth-sized planets in their habitable zones.
(that's a guess based on models but we know the days were shorter even if that amount is an estimate instead of an exact value)
the terrestrial day was only about five hours long when the Moon first formed close to the Earth.
Roughly three quarters of the stars in the galaxy are red dwarfs...life might not be a picnic around a red dwarf. Several times per day flares shoot off the star, causing the UV radiation to jump by 100 to 10,000 times normal...This increased radiation could sterilize the surface of a nearby planet.Even between flares, the combination of UV light and stellar winds can strip away the atmosphere if nothing is protecting or replenishing it.
As they age, red dwarfs become less magnetically active, while continuing to shine steadily at visible wavelengths for 100 billion years or more. Therefore, if an orbiting planet can just hold onto its atmosphere through the wild early years of its red dwarf roommate, it could end up being a decent place to live.