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Pursuant to Section 7(d) of the National Construction Safety Team Act, I hereby find that the disclosure of the information described below, received by the National Institute of Standards and Technology ("NIST"), in connection with its investigation of the technical causes of the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11,2001, might jeopardize public safety.
Therefore, NIST shall not release the following information:
1. All input and results files of the ANSYS 16-story collapse initiation model with detailed connection models that were used to analyze the structural response to thermal loads, break element source code, ANSYS script files for the break elements, custom executable ANSYS file, and all Excel spreadsheets and other supporting calculations used to develop floor connection failure modes and capacities.
2. All input files with connection material properties and all results files of the LS-DYNA 47-story global collapse model that were used to simulate sequential structural failures leading to collapse, and all Excel spreadsheets and other supporting calculations used to develop floor connection failure modes and capacities.
~ Patrick Gallagher
Director National Institute of Standards and Technology
Dated: JUL 09 2009
Originally posted by PersonalChoice
Do you have a problem with the fact that NIST refuses to release the information stated below(their model used to come to their conclusions about WTC7 and the Towers) on the grounds that it "might jeopardize public safety?
Do you have a problem with the fact that NIST refuses to release the information stated below(their model used to come to their conclusions about WTC7 and the Towers) on the grounds that it "might jeopardize public safety?
Originally posted by winston_jones
It is the failure to release the models that jeopardizes public safety because it deprives architects and engineers of data that could enhance the safety of future building designs.
which means that its study cannot be subjected to proper peer review.
Originally posted by Joey Canoli
1- any other report going through a peer review process
Washington, DC – In the days following the Gulf oil spill, President Obama requested that the Secretary of the Interior conduct a 30-day review of the offshore drilling program in the United States and issue a report with recommendations. This report was to be “peer reviewed” by a team of seven engineers recommended by the National Academy of Engineering.
2- an explanation of why it is logical for a report to go through a peer review, when the peer review process and publication is intended for scholarly papers.
Scholarly journals are also called academic, peer-reviewed, or refereed journals. (Strictly speaking, peer-reviewed (also called refereed) journals refer only to those scholarly journals that submit articles to several other scholars, experts, or academics (peers) in the field for review and comment. These reviewers must agree that the article represents properly conducted original research or writing before it can be published.)
3- an example of the level of background info given to a peer review board that you require from NIST.
Originally posted by Nutter
Washington, DC – In the days following the Gulf oil spill, President Obama requested that the Secretary of the Interior conduct a 30-day review of the offshore drilling program in the United States and issue a report with recommendations. This report was to be “peer reviewed” by a team of seven engineers recommended by the National Academy of Engineering.
Scholarly papers are where peer review is necessary.
All of NIST's data.
Originally posted by Joey Canoli
Let the guv select a reputable bunch of engineers and let them have access to the data that every truther believes should be publicly available.
Would you accept that?
Originally posted by Nutter
Just that to be a proper engineering report (one that has a lot of clout in changing already established codes of engineering) it should be peer reviewed from someone other than NIST.
Scholarly papers are where peer review is necessary
Originally posted by Joey Canoli
A proper engineering report *should* be peer reviewed?
Where'd you get that idea?
I'd agree that it's better. But should? I don't see the connection.
NIST uses both internal and external peer review to evaluate the
effectiveness of its programs. Internal peer review, including program
reviews by upper management, is used extensively in all programs.
External peer review is used principally to evaluate the technical quality of
the Measurement and Standards Laboratories’ programs.
Each year since 1959, the National Research Council, an advisory group
within the National Academy of Sciences, has coordinated an external
peer review of NIST laboratory programs by members of industry and
academia. Currently, about 150 scientists and engineers assess the
technical quality of NIST’s laboratory programs through the Council’s Board
on Assessment of NIST Programs. Panel members visit NIST both
individually and in groups, meeting with laboratory management and staff
to discuss planned, on-going, and completed programs to determine the
technical quality and relevance of the laboratory programs.
Originally posted by hooper
Except that this is not someone's Doctoral thesis. This is a government investigation of a major event. This is their conclusion. Information was contributed, but conditionally. This is not a release for "peer review", it is not a final exam, it is not a letter to the editor.
NIST occasionally conducts congressionally earmarked projects that are
not separately reviewed.
These projects can involve
intellectual property owned by the private companies and are protected by
law from disclosure by NIST. The nonproprietary NIST contribution is
subject to the same internal review as all projects and is not excluded
from the scope of the annual assessment.
Originally posted by Nutter
There should be some kind of review of their laboratrory procedures (which includes computer simulations). Have you seen one?
Then why is it federally mandatory for NIST to have a peer review?